USB Charger question (Zen vision

is there anyway to plug in ur Zen to the computer WITHOUT letting it charge (just to transfer files and stuff) ? wouldnt it ruin the battery if i connect it to the comp then disconnect it quickly ( like 0 min later) and then do the same againwith the battery not fully depleted?
Thanks

Xylem0,
No, I'm afraid you can't stop the player from charging when it's connected to the computer.
JasonMessage Edited by Jason-CL on 09-2-2006 02:57 PM

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