USB flash booting

I am not sure if this is the best forum for this - please let me know if there is a better Apple forum.
I have a 733 MHz G4 with Leopard and Tiger volumes. I formatted an 8 GB USB flash stick with: Apple partition map, Mac OS Extended (Journaled) and OS 9 drivers and then used Carbon Copy Cloner to clone the volume with OS 10.4.11 and OS 9.2.2 onto the USB stick.
Both of the USB stick OSs (10.4.11 and the 9.2.2) are bootable but they are not as easy to select as they were on the original volume.
All bootable OSs can be satisfactorily selected from OS 9.
Startup Manager (option key at boot) allows any volume to be selected but it will not change the selected OS on any multiple OS volume - I assume this is a normal limitation.
Both of the original OSs (10.4.11 and 9.2.2) can be individually selected from all OS X Startup Disk preference windows.
OS X Startup Disk preference windows allow USB selection but not a change of the USB OS - why is this?
From my post to http://forums.bombich.com/viewtopic.php?p=62752#62752 I understand that Bombich Software are reluctant to support PPC booting from USB flash devices on the basis that Apple say it is not possible!

I have extracted the following from John Sawyer's 22 April 2008 posts on:
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13727_7-10329518-263.html
"I've been able to get most PPC Mac models - - to boot from USB - - without modifying Open Firmware - -
The first Macs to boot from USB were the slot-loading iMac G3s, the AGP/Sawtooth G4s, and the Powerbook G3 Firewire. And, the first version of OS X that could boot via USB, was 10.4.3.
I've noticed over the years that many people claim all kinds of USB booting limitations, only a few of which I've encountered."
In view of John's remarks, and the experience of many others, I would be grateful if those propagating disinformation could reflect upon their actions.

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Quote from: MGP on 23-February-06, 11:30:27
Did you clear CMOS after flashing your BIOS?
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