USB Permissions

Hi,
I have HAL all set up and working for USB drives, it works and mounts them fine for my standard non-root user.
But im trying to use a program (Gnomad 2), and this gives an error that it cannot find the device on the USB Bus, but it works perfectly as root.
Are there some permissions i need to set to allow non-root users access to the USB bus?
Thanks
Jack

gnomad2 is for mp3 players by creative or dell jukebox i believe also works with gnomad2
is this the device you want to use?
if so yes it is a permission problem which can be fixed via udev rule
there is this thread
but since the format of udev rules have changed
so you need to make it look like this
BUS=="usb", SYSFS{idVendor}=="041e", SYSFS{idProduct}=="4110",
SYMLINK+="njb%n", GROUP:="audio"
ACTION=="add", BUS=="usb", SYSFS{idVendor}=="041e", SYSFS{idProduct}=="4110",
RUN+="/etc/hotplug/usb/nomadjukebox"
SUBSYSTEM=="usb_device", SYSFS{idVendor}=="041e", SYSFS{idProduct}=="4110",
GROUP:="audio"

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