USB vs. PCI capture devices

Hey all, quick questions I hope someone can help me with:
1. Are there significant differences between USB and PCI video capture devices [other than the one is USB, the other PCI] which would make one better than the other in terms of performance?
2. Is there a way to buffer the incoming video from a capture device [in my case, a USB video grabber device] so that when recording the video and streaming it simultaneously, you don't get choppy video and slow framerate?
Thanks in advance for any help...

Sorry about the correction: in question 2 I mean I'm trying to monitor the incoming stream and record it to the HDD at the same time...sorry for any confusion...

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Hi !!
I bought this "grabby" usb dongle from terratec to record old vhs cassete on my computer, but is doesn't work on linux. (It works ok on win7, so cable-connections problems are excluded)
On vlc I did 'open capture device', choose /dev/video0 for vid, hw:2,0 for sound(tried them all anyway), and PAL/SECAM video standard.
Problem is I have a super crappy video image (on mplayer also), and no sound. The video is colored, I recogize it, but the pixels are huge, it's awfull.
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[ 8371.430051] em28xx audio device (0ccd:0096): interface 2, class 1
[ 8371.430074] em28xx audio device (0ccd:0096): interface 1, class 1
[ 8371.438360] em28xx: New device TerraTec Electronic GmbH TerraTec Grabby @ 480 Mbps (0ccd:0096, interface 0, class 0)
[ 8371.438363] em28xx: Video interface 0 found
[ 8371.438365] em28xx: DVB interface 0 found
[ 8371.438511] em28xx #0: chip ID is em2860
[ 8371.554008] em28xx #0: i2c eeprom 00: 1a eb 67 95 cd 0c 96 00 50 00 11 03 9c 20 6a 32
[ 8371.554020] em28xx #0: i2c eeprom 10: 00 00 06 57 0e 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
[ 8371.554029] em28xx #0: i2c eeprom 20: 02 00 01 00 f0 10 01 00 00 00 00 00 5b 00 00 00
[ 8371.554039] em28xx #0: i2c eeprom 30: 00 00 20 40 20 80 02 20 01 01 00 00 00 00 00 00
[ 8371.554048] em28xx #0: i2c eeprom 40: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
[ 8371.554057] em28xx #0: i2c eeprom 50: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
[ 8371.554067] em28xx #0: i2c eeprom 60: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 32 03 54 00 65 00
[ 8371.554076] em28xx #0: i2c eeprom 70: 72 00 72 00 61 00 54 00 65 00 63 00 20 00 45 00
[ 8371.554086] em28xx #0: i2c eeprom 80: 6c 00 65 00 63 00 74 00 72 00 6f 00 6e 00 69 00
[ 8371.554095] em28xx #0: i2c eeprom 90: 63 00 20 00 47 00 6d 00 62 00 48 00 20 03 54 00
[ 8371.554104] em28xx #0: i2c eeprom a0: 65 00 72 00 72 00 61 00 54 00 65 00 63 00 20 00
[ 8371.554114] em28xx #0: i2c eeprom b0: 47 00 72 00 61 00 62 00 62 00 79 00 48 00 00 00
[ 8371.554123] em28xx #0: i2c eeprom c0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
[ 8371.554133] em28xx #0: i2c eeprom d0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
[ 8371.554142] em28xx #0: i2c eeprom e0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
[ 8371.554151] em28xx #0: i2c eeprom f0: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
[ 8371.554163] em28xx #0: EEPROM ID= 0x9567eb1a, EEPROM hash = 0xd3498090
[ 8371.554165] em28xx #0: EEPROM info:
[ 8371.554166] em28xx #0: AC97 audio (5 sample rates)
[ 8371.554167] em28xx #0: 500mA max power
[ 8371.554170] em28xx #0: Table at 0x06, strings=0x209c, 0x326a, 0x0000
[ 8371.554172] em28xx #0: Identified as Terratec Grabby (card=67)
[ 8371.856372] saa7115 4-0025: saa7113 found (1f7113d0e100000) @ 0x4a (em28xx #0)
[ 8372.495384] em28xx #0: Config register raw data: 0x50
[ 8372.515361] em28xx #0: AC97 vendor ID = 0x83847650
[ 8372.525227] em28xx #0: AC97 features = 0x6a90
[ 8372.525231] em28xx #0: Empia 202 AC97 audio processor detected
[ 8372.908213] em28xx #0: v4l2 driver version 0.1.3
[ 8373.760714] em28xx #0: V4L2 video device registered as video0
[ 8373.760718] em28xx #0: V4L2 VBI device registered as vbi0
And lsmod :
[user@OGwncMO ~]$ lsmod | grep em28xx
em28xx 88986 0
tveeprom 13809 1 em28xx
videobuf_vmalloc 4351 1 em28xx
videobuf_core 16231 2 videobuf_vmalloc,em28xx
v4l2_common 5370 2 saa7115,em28xx
videodev 100564 3 saa7115,em28xx,v4l2_common
i2c_core 20508 7 i2c_i801,saa7115,em28xx,nvidia,v4l2_common,tveeprom,videodev
usbcore 147434 10 uas,ath3k,btusb,snd_usb_audio,usb_storage,em28xx,snd_usbmidi_lib,ehci_hcd,usbhid,xhci_hcd
From what I see my guess is that the module supposed to handle this hardware is present but doesn't do its job properly...any help?

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