Use AIrport Express without Internet access?

Friends of ours just switched and helped them purchase and set up an iMac and MacBook. We're rural so they are now using a Verizon USB Modem for internet access, no access to DSL or cable. If they were to purchase an AE can it be used, and how easy is the setup, to create an in-home network to simply communicate between the MB and iMac and stream Airtunes? Also can the Verizon USB modem be used with the AE? Searched forums and it doesn't appear that it can be used but wondering if someone has a work around.
Thanks.

If they were to purchase an AE can it be used, and how easy is the setup, to create an in-home network to simply communicate between the MB and iMac and stream Airtunes?
The default configuration of the AirPort Express Base Station (AX) is a wireless router with AirTunes enabled. In this configuration, both Macs should be able to connect to the AX's wireless network and stream iTunes. No Internet connection is required.
Also can the Verizon USB modem be used with the AE?
For Internet access the AX must be connected to an Ethernet modem, or to another wired or wireless network that has Internet connectivity. The AirPorts do not support direct connection to USB-based modems.

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Hello Low77. Welcome to the Apple Discussions!
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Yes. By default, the AirPort Express Base Station (AX) will create a stand-alone wireless network which you can connect up to 10 wireless clients for file or printer sharing.
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No, not if the AirPort Express "joins" the wireless network.
No, I do not want to join a network.
It is possible to have the AirPort Express "create" a separate wireless network that would not have access to the Internet, but if you did this, you would need to log off of your normal network....(losing your Internet connection) and then log onto the AirPort Express network when you wanted to listen to AirPlay.
Then, when you wanted to have Internet access, you would have to log off of the AirPort Express network and log back onto your normal wireless network.
Ok, I understand that it is not possible to use airport express only for sound streaming while having an Internet connection at the same time. Airport express does need to join a network if I want sound streaming next an Internet connection. I wanted airport express not to get into way of my Internet connection because in this case the sound streaming messes up sometimes. When I configure airport express only as a sound output, the problems I encounter fade away but then I cannot access to the Internet. Anyhow thanks a lot for the answer.

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Solved.
I had likely the same problem. It was solved by replacing the home router internal connections with a real switch.
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I have Internet Sharing enabled on my MacBook Pro running Leopard 10.5.4. I use a Sprint Sierra Wireless Aircard 597E modem to connect to the Internet.
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With Internet Sharing enabled, my iPhone can access the web, so I believe I have the sharing set up correctly. However, I can't see the Time Machine and my Airport Express just keeps blinking amber.
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Thanks Kappy,
I'm not sure you're exactly following me on this one, though. Here's what I've discovered on my own for anyone else facing the same situation I am:
1. You /cannot/ use Airport Express while using Leopard's Internet Sharing.
2. If you want to create a local network, in this situation, you'll need to use Time Capsule to establish the initial local network, then join the Airport Express into that network. At that point you can use Time Machine with Time Capsule, access it as a hard drive and use AirTunes with the Airport Express.
But you cannot use the Sprint AirCard (and I assume any other similar setup) and your Mac with Internet Sharing to build the local network and then join the other devices to it. Unfortunately.

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I want to boost the signal on my network using my airport express without setting up a WDS network, is this possible?
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If you have an AirPort Express 802.11n, you can configure it to "extend a wireless network" and maintain "n" speeds on the network with a minimum of bandwidth loss.
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OK I checked on the forums, but I could not find anything quite specific it what I was trying to accomplish.
I recently got a 500GB Time Capsule. I changed my network around, which was based off of two Airport Express stations – on in the office hooked up to internet & printer, one in living room hooked up to sound system – and made the TC the main hub, connecting modem to it's WAN port and bridging the office AX via LAN port in bridged mode, sharing the living room AX as WDS. This way, I had the TC in N-only mode in 5ghz spectrum using wide channels for fastest performance. All this worked well.
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However, I CANNOT get this to work properly. I thought I really just needed to move the TC to the living room and bridge it there, as the services should be shared over the LAN port since the 2.4ghz AX are in "bridged" mode, but that didn't work. I kinda-sorta got it to work by forcing both the AX network AND the TC network into "bridged mode," but that didn't seem right or wise, so I tried some other settings, putting the TC to bridged and having the office AX distribute IP addresses, but then it wouldn't show up under restart, and I'm just confused now on how to set that up!
What i need is: To have the "Office AX" hooked up to the modem & printer, on 2.4ghz since it's the older .11g model, with the "Living Room AX" on that same network. Then the TC in 5ghz N-only bridged to the Living Room AX via LAN, so it can share the services (internet & airtunes) and still get high data transfer speeds to the laptops via the advantage of Line-of-sight, non-obstructed networking.
How do I need to set this up? It's possible, right?
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OK while I was working out this morning, I was trying to think of WHY my setup wasn't working. I had an epiphany, and decided to try once more. This time, it worked.
The problem was that originally I had the Living Room AX set up as a Remote, so it was hooking INTO the network, not extending it. I know that with that setup you can't hook up to THAT station and get internet or anything, you hook into the MAIN station and you can SEE the remote's services that are "plugged in" to it.
I didn't think this would be an issue with the TC physically attached to the ethernet port, but apparently this behavior extends to the ethernet port on remote stations for internet access... I had a feeling that MIGHT be it, so I started from scratch, and this time set up the Living Room AX to extend the network instead of just joining it. Then hooking up the TC to the Living Room AX's ethernet port and selecting "Bridge Mode" on the TC got me the good ol' green light!
So, if anyone out there is trying to build a dual-band network, with their TC on .11n-only and bridge to services supplied by a 2.4ghz network, AND route their internet access through the 2.4ghz network instead of the TC so that they can keep their TC more centrally located for better performance... make sure you do it like this: Set up the alternate (2.4ghz) network as relays, "extending" the network, so that when you plug into it, the TC essentially thinks it's plugged directly into the main router, no matter where it is. The throughput hit for internet access over WDS shouldn't be a problem for US-based peeps, as our speeds are typically well below the .11g threshold anyway.
I also found that it helped to NOT hide the SSID of the 2.4ghz network; doing that kept rendering failed attempts to force the secondary AX to join as WDS. Once I redid it without hiding the SSID, all went well.

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Hello,
I have a quick question.
I recently bought a Onkyo CR-N755 Network receiver.
I would like to take advantage of the network radio functions, but am running into a problem.
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In order to do this, would I set up the express as a bridge, create a new network with the same settings as the Extreme,
This option would require a permanent wired Ethernet connection between the AirPort Extreme and AirPort Express. This will provide full bandwidth over the entire network.
or would I have to extend the network
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I hate trailing a long wire across my room just to listen to music through my (old but still fantastic) stereo system. I share a house with friends and our router is in the living room.. does the airport express need the router to work? sorry if this is a dumb question, there just doesn't seem to be an answer anywhere!

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My AirPort Express is running the 7.5.2 update and is plugged into my Comcast modem.
I keep having download/upload speeds dropping way below what I should be getting. Speedtest.net keeps showing download speeds of around 5mbps or less on average but I should be getting around 15mbps.
I've tried troubleshooting with Comcast with no improvements. I suspect it's network congestion but they just won't admit it because I've done speed tests on a weekday during business hours and it works great. But in the evenings/weekends it's poor.
The AirPort Express is directly below my desktop computer so I doubt there's enough interference to cause this slowdown.
I've set the radio signal in the AX to 802.11n 5mhz only thinking that would help.
The AX is about 3 years old. Does it just need replacing?
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Your actual connection speed will vary quite a bit depending on what site you are visiting, how many users are on the site, and many other things, including congestion on your providers service (which they will never admit).
I've done speed tests on a weekday during business hours and it works great. But in the evenings/weekends it's poor.
You pretty much have your answer already.
I've set the radio signal in the AX to 802.11n 5mhz only thinking that would help.
It won't help your internet connection speed since that is controlled by your provider. Your AX is capable of much higher speeds that the ISP can ever provide. If you are using 5 GHz, these signals are much weaker than 2.4 GHz signals, so you really need close to a line-of-sight relationship between the AirPort Express and your computer using 5 GHz. Since your AX is close to the computer this may not affect things that much, but if you were a few rooms away, you would see that the 5 GHz signal was much weaker than the 2.4 GHz signal.
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Hello Low77. Welcome to the Apple Discussions!
Can you set up a wireless network using Airport Express without a modem?
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