Use AX as an Ethernet bridge and a WDS relay simutaneously

I searched the forum but didn't find any conclusive answers. So here goes:
I need to connect a computer to my existing wireless network (AX as AP), but it doesn't support wireless whatsoever (Sun workstation). So I want to get another AX to use it as an Ethernet bridge.
My question is, can the AX work as a WDS relay at the same time to extend my existing Airport network?
Thanks in advance.

The only way it'll work as an Ethernet bridge is if it is part of a WDS network, so you'd be getting the wireless extension anyway.
BTW, it would be a WDS Remote, not a WDS Relay.

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