Use external raw converter

I have a camera whose RAW files cannot be processed by Aperture (ie by MAC OS). Can I specify Lightroom as an external editor and use it just as the raw converter for these files, but use Aerture for everything else (such as cropping, sharpening, printing, etc)?p

Re Caggiano's advice: I converted these RAW files to DNG but upon import to Aperture, they were labeled as Unsupported File Format, and I was unable to use an external editor on them.  I have rised this issue before:  that Aperture rejects the DNG files converted from Raw by the Adobe DNG Converter and Adobe Lightroom, even though they have been examined and shown NOT to be linear DNG files.  So for some reason or bug, MAC OS not only rejects the raw files from my Fujifilm S100fs (which has a conventional Bayer array sensor) but also rejects the DNG files from those raw files.
Re Krieger's advice: I will have to convert my S100fs raw files to Tiffs in some other software and use the Tiffs in Aperture.  At the moment, I am tempted to abandon Aperture altogether until my files are supported,  and give up having my images all in one library. Lightroom, DXO, and Silkypix all will process these raw files.

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    Fred: 116040070815784336099081
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    Fred: So, what you are telling me is that I can't open a RAW file in LightRoom into Camera Raw. Simply stated.
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    Soumyadeep: .Thank you for the information.
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    Fred: I am working on Windows 7 64 bit operating system.
    Fred: I have closed all applications from Adobe.
    Soumyadeep: Thank you for the information.
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    Soumyadeep: Double click on Adobe folder.
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    Fred: Done
    Soumyadeep: In that folder you will have a folder Adobe Photoshop CS6. Please rename the folder as Adobe Photoshop CS6old
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    Fred: I can change the properties of the file to open in another program if that is where we are going.
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    Fred: OK, where does this leave us?
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    Fred: Camera Raw appears to be functiong fine.
    Soumyadeep: Great!
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    Fred: OK, closed sir.
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    Fred: I am now at the Prefernces box. Performance Tab
    Soumyadeep: You are welcome.
    Soumyadeep: Correct.
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    TD
    I'm feeling just a little sheepish right now.
    It was your statement that it was either a) I'm imagining it or b) it's a very rare problem. I knew it wasn't (a) and I suspected (b) was probably not it either because too often when something is very rare, there is something simple hidden in the problem.
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    Sorry for the simple question - I'm an unsophisticated photographer just dipping toes in RAW stuff
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    Where third party solutions compete is in their ability to support raw from multiple brands of camera and by providing a much larger set of additional features.
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    The use of in camera settings (tricks) designed to extend dynamic range can impact the raw processing. Where Aperture can read and understand the settings (like Fuji's DRx00% settings) it does a good job, but I see occasional issues reported from Nikon users about issues when using its ADL feature.
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    When I bought the wrong Bourne movie in iTunes, at first I thought they'd given me the wrong one and complained. Then I realised it was my mistake so told them to forget the complaint. They emailed back saying they had refunded my purchase as it wasn't what I intended to buy. I've had several other dealings along related lines and I have to say I've never been on the wrong end of one their decisions, they have always played very fair with me.
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    I think your final question is a little skewed...Camera v PC.
    The RAW format as delivered by your camera is effectively un-processed by the camera...hence RAW. The RAW data has to be processed externally.
    The more philosophical question would be which Software performs better processing. The Camera manufacturers or Photoshop. There are arguments for both sides but some people feel that the Camera manufacturers software should do a better job as they are tightly coupled to the camera mechanics. Adobe had to reverse engineer the RAW formats for use in Photoshop as the manufacturers try to keep them proprietary.
    Personally I'm quite happy using Photoshop than Canons own brand S/W.
    With respect to the Auto Settings....actually I use Photoshop CS instead of Elements....I've NEVER liked what Elements delivered automatically on the odd occasion I've used it.
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