Use IDE & SATA HDD together

Hi,
i have a 80 Gb IDE-Drive, which is stuffed now.
So i wanted to buy a new one and i was thinking of a Seagate SATA 80 Gig.
Now can i run these Drives on one board??? Or do i need some special Config-
urations other than just Pluggin and Playing??? I got all cables and stuff.
Another question would be is there any problem with installing WinXP on the new
drive, then making it boot Rom and then deleting WinXP on the first drive, becaus my Windows is messed up.
Thanks in advance,
Tobi

If your board has SATA ports, then yes you can run both. You can install Windows on the new SATA drive and make it the boot drive.
Can you be more specific on which board you have?

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Can I boot off the SATA HDD

I just put my computer together, and I am trying to install Windows XP pro. I only have a SATA HDD and would like for the computer to put the master boot record on this drive. As of now, every time I try to install XP it tells me that it cannot locate a hard drive. I assume that it is expecting an IDE HDD. Is there any way that I can use the SATA HDD to boot up my computer, or will I have to just buy an IDE HDD.
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can I boot off the SATA HDD
I just put my computer together, and I am trying to install Windows XP pro. I only have a SATA HDD and would like for the computer to put the master boot record on this drive. As of now, every time I try to install XP it tells me that it cannot locate a hard drive. I assume that it is expecting an IDE HDD. Is there any way that I can use the SATA HDD to boot up my computer, or will I have to just buy an IDE HDD.
Yes, you can boot off the SATA drive. You will, however, have to 1st enable the SATA capability in the BIOS. Upon startup, get into the BIOS (usually press "F6" on startup), then step through the BIOS screens and you will see a place where you enable various IDE drives. You need to enable the SATA functionality. Instructions (albeit vague) will also be in your MB owners manual.
Good luck.
Scott
PS After you've formatted the SATA Drive & installed Win XP, you will need to again enter the BIOS and setup the BIOS to boot form the SATA drive. Right now, you are correctly booting off the CD to install Win-XP.

Combination with Sata HDD and Pata HDD

I am using 1x Sata HDD and 1x Pata HDD, The problem is when I want to install fresh install of windows XP, the setup identify as my disk 1 is the Pata HDD (partition C and D) and disk 2 is the Sata HDD (E and F), I want to install the windows on the Sata HDD so I want it to become (C and D) as disk 1.
I found a solution by removing the power cable from the Pata HDD and then the installtion identifies the sata hdd as C and D/ disk1, but I need a solution without have to unplug the pata power cable.
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Windows will not let you change the drive letter where the "Windows" folder is. This is because critical files are linked to the registry when you install programs in the Program Files folder after a normal install.
For a fresh install the best solution you have is to install Windows with only the SATA drive installed and no other drives. Then when you are sure you only have one drive in the computer you need to repartition the SATA drive into the two sizes you want during the CD install of XP. During the XP install choose one of the partitions (preferably the first) beginning at 0 on the disk. Windows will just leave the other partition alone until after you are done installing XP. Then go into the disk manager after Windows is setup and enable the orphaned second partition you created earlier in Windows setup (Windows will not initialize it automatically). That one will be D:\. Then intall the other drive(s) in whatever order or creation you see fit. Only then can you change those drive letters (partitions). Feel free to experiment and by the way you may need Partition Magic to do a bit of house keeping seeing how you have so many partitions.

I need to replace my Apple HDD Toshiba MK5065GSXF Media, can I use any 2,5" internal SATA HDD for this?

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I'm in a situation where my Apple HDD Toshiba MK5065GSXF Media has completely given up on me. I cannot understand why Toshiba is being used anyhow, together with SeaGate these were assured failures back when I did IT. My question however is: can I simply replace it with any 2,5" internal SATA HDD that I'd wish to use? I tend to favour any WD HDD. I'm running my MacBook Pro off an external HDD nowadays, but it's not a useful option as I'd like to use it at school and all that.
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I really like the HGST Travelstar 7K1000 and it would be a good fit for a 2012 model: 7200rpm, 1TB capacity and SATA III speeds. I have a number of them that I use to clone my internal SSD and have put one inside my MacBook Pro just to see how it performs - top notch!
That's my recommendation - HGST is made by Hitachi and I've always had good luck with Hitachi drives.
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SATA HDD installs Extra IDE controllers

Hi I have a problem, whenever my Maxtor Plus 9 SATA 120GB hard drive is present on the system windows will try to install 2 extra ide controllers. If these are allowed to be installed then windows will lock up when Autorun is used or if a new cd is inserted.
If i install windows on the SATA hdd then the controllers are already installed and I get the locking issue straight away.
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Do you want XP installed on the SATA or IDE drive?
Either way, check the Bios settings Integrated Peripherals>>On-Chip IDE Config.
It should be like below(taken from FAQ):
Native Mode
"ATA Configuration: SATA Only or PATA only, depending on which you want to be the FIRST BOOT device!
S-ATA Keep Enabled: Yes if you chose PATA only
P-ATA Keep Enabled: Yes if you chose SATA Only
PATA Channel Selection: Both
Combined Mode Operation: PATA First/SATA First, depending on which you want to act as 1st Channel.
S-ATA Ports Definition: - P0-1st/P1-2nd or P0-3rd/P1-4th, depending on which you want to act as Master."
Having the 2 Primary and secondary IDE controllers in Device Manager is normal for these boards with the SATA ports enabled. I don't know why it's giving you grief. It looks like you don't use both your IDE channels. You can leave the unused one disabled in the Bios and this will eliminate one of the IDE controllers in XP.
I would also ensure that "ACPI APIC SCI IRQ" is enabled in BIOS>>Advanced Features BEFORE you install XP. This may help.
Finally, did you remember to install the Intel INF files immediately after the XP install and before any other programs?

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Has anyone added a second HDD SATA controller to their ThnikCentre M93/p , my is a mini tower, to add SATA HDD ports to their setup. I have try to add a Marvell 88SE9230 based RAID HDD Controller as a second controller, but was not recognized.
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I am having some problems with a pc build with motherboard not detecting SATA HDDs (MIS x48c Platinum).
I believe I have exhausted all other avenues, and I would appreciate some help if I have missed something obvious.
(details of other components are listed at end of mail).
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i just remember i had once similar problem with a sata driver. the issue is this you can not adjust everything in bios in one go and expect mobo to know about it. what i mean is this for instance you disable the raid then you save it and exit and then when it reboot you go back to bios and reset another another parameter, you save and exit and on reboot you go back to bios and reset another parameter. i got round the prob that way and it worked and mobo saw the sata HDD. give this a shoot good luck and finally make sure raid is disabled
this is what i would do
1- make sure the jumper setting on your IDE Hdd is correct (Y may have to try this twice as there are two different setting on jumper setting for Master)
2- connect the sata HDD
3-click on power
4-go to bios and disable raid save exit
5-on reboot go back to bios
6--on first option click on it then you should see all devices that can be seen by mobo if you do not see sata HDD you have to click on enable for the auto to see the device once it sees the device save and exit. REMEMBER THE JUMPER SETTING ON IDE HDD CAN CAUSE PROB . SO try the other jumper setting for master, repeat this procedure once more hopefully you get it right

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Why do my SATA hdds show up as IDE at startup??????

Nothing is "wrong" sata disks is still IDE .
ATA is the real name for the mass storage device interface that is frequently called IDE or EIDE .
So IDE is a common interface reference name for ATA disks wether they are P-ATA or S-ATA bus interfaced.
Definition of IDE:
IDE: IDE stands for Integrated/Intelligent Drive Electronics. It is an ATA specification (the terms are often used interchangably).

IDE/PATA HDD UltraBay adapter for T61?

What is the part number for the UltraBay adapter that fits the T61 and accepts IDE/PATA hard disks?

the Z60 uses SATA hdd, so anything in 2.5 inch and 9.5 mm thickness format is okay, currently 640 gig is the largest.
Lenovo's figure are based on the largest hdd that was available when they released the machine, they don't update these value when new parts come out.
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K8m neo-v mobo dont detect seagate sata hdd st3808110as

k8m neo-v mobo dont detect seagate sata hdd st3808110as 80gb
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so thats it.
thanks alot tiresmoke. i really appreciate it.
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K7N2 ILSR + WD 160 Gb SATA HDD help

Hello everybody,
I have a big problem and I've laboured for 2 days.
The story: I decided to replace the old PATA HDD (80GB Maxtor) to SATA HDD (160GB WD). But I can't to install a new os to new HDD, because the Windows install process is unable to identify the new HDD.
If I put back my old PATA HDD and start the old windows, I'm able to use the ne HDD.
Only I can't boot for it (BIOS can't see the new HDD) and can't install a new os to the new HDD.
Fasttrak driver was installed, and it identified the new HDD and RAID Array was created (sriple + 64 kb).
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vorosp, I can't comment on your set-up, but what I can say is that I loaded Windows 2000 on a K7N2 Delta-ILSR using a 70GB WD Raptor about a week ago - I was helped out mightily by Dr Stu. I have just tried it again with a 300Gb Maxtor SATA-150, after reading your query.
I didn't set up anything in particular in the BIOS, but I did remove all the PATA drives. Significant BIOS details are :
No IDE Primary Master or Slave (PATA)
IDE Secondary Master = DVD-RW
IDE Secondary Slave = CD-RW
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FastTrak 376 BIOS Version 1.00.0.21
(c) 2002-2005 Promise Technology, Inc. All rights reserved.
ID MODE SIZE TRACK-MAPPING STSTUS
========================================================
1 * 1+0 Stripe 300090M 36483/255/63 Functional
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The drivers loaded from floppy by Windows 2000 (after pressing [F6] as described earlier) were identified as :
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A:\>dir
Directory of A:\
12/12/2002 03:06 1,536 README.TXT
29/08/2002 09:52 1,100 txtsetup.oem
01/06/2002 01:49 12 fasttx2k
21/01/2006 23:19 <DIR> Win2000
3 File(s) 2,648 bytes
1 Dir(s) 1,307,648 bytes free
A:\>dir Win2000
Directory of A:\Win2000
21/01/2006 23:19 <DIR> .
21/01/2006 23:19 <DIR> ..
01/06/2002 01:51 17 Fasttx2k.cat
02/01/2003 20:31 1,960 fasttx2k.INF
18/12/2002 11:15 142,910 fasttx2k.sys
3 File(s) 144,887 bytes
2 Dir(s) 1,307,648 bytes free
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Ms-6741 + SATA HDDs not recognised by xp setup

Hi all, i have been ripping my hair out for 24 hours about this machine.
It is a TINY PC with a MS-6741 mainboard. It previously had 2 SATA HDDs installed, both 200GB. 1 had XP installed on it and the other just data. The OS disk failed, many many bad sectors and errors. I bought a new SATA HDD (WD2500AAJS) and thought i would be able to install xp from either the tiny restore disk, or a standard windows xp disk. But I can't!
First problem (although not the worst) is that the BIOS does not recognise the 250 GB new disk, not one bit. Checked the sata cable, checked the power, checked the disk in another machine; all fine. So after some swearing I decided to copy the data off the data disk and use a disk the BIOS was recognising.
The mobo recognises it fine, but when i get to the xp setup to select disks and partitions it says 'no disk available'.
I did some reading and many people suggest that the XP setup disk doesn't have drivers to make SATA work, they suggest downloading the raid/sata driver from the mobo manufacturer website and pressing F6 at the start of setup, copying the drivers to a floppy and letting xp setup find the drivers and use them. I tried that, i tried both the drivers listed for raid on the MSI support page for this mobo, i tried getting the drivers for the VIA VT8237 SATA controller, they didn't work.
I have tried upgrading the bios, flashing it from a win 98 boot disk, following the instructions on this page http://www.msicomputer.com/support/BIOS_NON_FAT.asp This as far as i can see didn't work, it launched the flash utility fine, said 'deleting' and then 'programming' and said both had completed successfully. I restarted, went into the bios and the bios version hadn't changed. The only difference when i turned it on was that it said 'CMOS settings wrong'.
I am at my wits end, i have no idea what else to try. I read somewhere that TINY used to make their own version of BIOS which only allowed certain HDDs, maybe they stop you flashing the bios, certainly there is no setting in the existing bios saying, 'protect bios' or 'don't allow bios flashing'.
I would greatly appreciate any help.
Many Thanks
James

http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=downloaddetail&type=driver&maincat_no=1&prod_no=575
There you have all drivers for your board.
You probably have to make a driver floppy and load it during install with F6

Msi k8m neo-v not detecting SATA HDD

hi,
i am using MSI K8M NEO-V motherboard,
i have read all the threads related to it, and detection of SATA hdd's with it.
i have tried everything except the bios update.
i'v set the jumper to 1.5Gbps
tried different drives but no go
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Quote from: Stu on 07-August-10, 23:28:47
If its a SATA-II (3Gb/s) drive, it will probably never work on that board.
VIA VT8237 chipset has known incompatibility issues with SATA 3Gb/s drives, which cannot be fixed. Either try and get hold of a SATA 1.5Gb/s drive, or just use a PATA (IDE) drive instead.
yes bro it is a sata-II 3GB/S drive..
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T61 - Did using the SATA ultrabay corrupt my XP install?

Detailed explanation follows, but the executive summary version:
Can't boot from the HDD in the machine if the CD bay is inserted. With the SATA ultrabay installed instead, I can only get a normal boot from the SATA bay HDD, not the normal drive. Are there are any known issues using 2 bootable XP HDDs in the machine and in the ultrabay at the same time?
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Each machine is partitioned with a primary for the OS, and extensions for the apps and the data i.e. C, D, & E along with the hidden recovery partition. When I boot with the Hitachi I see the desktop as configured for the Hitachi, but the C boot drive is really from the Seagate. Using diskmgmt, I see Seagate is disk0 with C, G and H drives while the Hitachi is disk1 as the D, E, and F drives.
Whew, did that makes sense? Short of reinstalling from scratch again, is there a way to get the installed Hitachi HDD back as the C, D, and E drives? Is it completely toast or is their some boot/configuration setting that could be tweaked to make things good again? Perhaps a registry entry that got hosed? I'm out of ideas. Thanks much

Just to let you know that the install went well. Decided to use Windows 7 RC1 trial, and am very impressed.
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