Use of Business Service Contro and Registry Console

Hi All
Oracle Fusion Middleware Service Registry 11g will provide two user interface control
A. Business Service Control
B. Registry Console
I am going through the Oracle Fusion Middleware Service Registry Guide 11g provided by Oracle and figure out that lot of functionality like published registry component (WDSL,ML<XSD),Subscription, Search registry resources are same in both tool.
I am confused to having the purpose of two different user console.
Can someone please help me to understand this concept as well as having some detailed document on these topics will really great help for me.?
RanS
Edited by: user10115014 on Jan 4, 2013 5:01 PM

Hi
Any one who can answer the above question ?
Thanks in Advance.

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In addition to the above infomation explaining about the Business Service..
Business Service: Address an abstract business entity as the sender or receiver of messages.
Using a business service, you can define the technical or business subunits of the companies involved and then assign them the relevant interfaces.
The business services are used when configuring cross-company processes also..
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I am new in Osb what is the use of business service and proxy service in osb.
I know little bit proxy service is used for actual message flow. I saw some project proxy service invoking the (using service callout,routing and publish) service,but the wsdl of the services of the proxy and business service is same.
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Edited by: 996674 on Apr 2, 2013 10:53 PM

Hi Raju,
Proxy Service - It is the starting point of you OSB application which deal with receiving messages, inducing logic in it like transformation, if-else, replace, java call outs,etc. You can put in your program logic here and then invoke a business service to route it to your Database or to any other queue as per your requirement.
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We are trying to restrict business service access only through proxy services. Will outbound security using service accounts can do this task? I enabled basic authentication at business service level and tried to pass username/password token through soap header in proxy service. I get "The invocation resulted in an error: Unauthorized." error.
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I'm affraid you didn't get the very basic meaning of business service.
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I want BS1 to be accessed only through PS1 and hence need to secure BS1.
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1. You don't need to secure BS because of this reason since every BS can be accessed only through PS. There is no way you can call BS outside of OSB. BS is just a definition of external (business) service.
2. Authentication set on BS is not meant to restrict access to BS itself. It is set to use credentials to access some service from OSB (WS1 in your case).
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When BS1 is directly accessed through OSB console, I get "The invocation resulted in an error: Unauthorized".
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This is only a testing form. Again, there is no chance you could call BS outside of OSB. On top of that, if you test BS which has pass-through account set, the test fails as there are no credentials to be passed to BS from PS as there was no PS called.
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You are doing the usage of business systems and services in proper way.
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You usually use business system services when configuring internal company processes.
A business service
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Using a business service, you can define the technical or business subunits of the companies involved and then assign them the relevant interfaces.
You usually use business services when configuring cross-company processes. In this case, you only make your interfaces known to the business partners involved and either do not make any details about your own system landscape available, or only specific details.
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If you want to address a particular business system as the sender or receiver of messages, choose this service type.
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You usually use business system services when configuring internal company processes.
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I want to confugure a file sender CC to pickup the file and send it to ECC system thru proxy.
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In both the cases, i can use a file sender CC and pickup the file from a folder using FTP protocol.
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Its always preferred to use Business service for communication with systems outside the landscape. As it does not refer to any SLD components and safe to use on internet etc.
What is the use of using a 3rd Business system instead of using business service in my current situation?
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n both the cases, i can use a file sender CC and pickup the file from a folder using FTP protocol.
What is the criteria based on which i need to take this decision?
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