USE OF CATS IN Negative time management scinario

Hi Friends,
                I need your guidance on following points
    1)    Is there any relevance of using CATS in negative time management.
    2) If we have to use CATS in negative time management what should be the time management status o or 7
    3) If we transfer the data to HR management does it updates 2002 IT
Hope for your reply plz
Thanks in advance
Regards
Rajesh Rai

Rajesh,
1. CATS is very much relevant in negative time management for payment of overtime, recording absences and attendances. In CATS, the employee would enter time using activity types which needs to be mapped to the relevant attendance / absence types. After approval, the times charged in the time sheets would be transferred to infotypes 2001 / 2002 / 2010 (can be used for overtime)
You can use the data transfer reports "RPTEXTPT" for Human Resources components
Pls. refer to the below link for information
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_47x200/helpdata/en/dc/f9783b05efdb18e10000000a114084/frameset.htm
2. You can use TMSTA "9" - Time evaluation - planned times while using CATS
3. CATS data can be very much transferred to infotype 2002
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_47x200/helpdata/en/dc/f9783b05efdb18e10000000a114084/frameset.htm
Hope this information helps
Regards
Raj

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Please provide the information regarding the key differences between Negative Time Management & Positive Time Management.
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2. Negative Time (-ve Time) ? Where the all time related activities like validation of the attendance, posting of absence for wage deduction etc are done manually. It has less level of integration among the different components of time management.
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1. Records time deviations to Planned Working Time
2. Valid deviations include: Absences, Special Absences, On Call Duty, Overtime, Substitutions, Time off in lieu
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Positive Time Recording:
1. Records the attendance time of the employee
2. Records the deviation times of the employee
3. Valid attendances include: Training, Business Trips, Seminars, Overtime.
4. Attendances & deviations can be entered either:
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