Use of infosource in BI 7.0

Hi,
Can anybody explain me the use of infosource in BI 7.0 as we can directly load data from datasource to datatarget.

hi,
infosource is optional,
3.x infosource not used in new dataflow, in bi 7.0 there is new type of infosource
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw70/helpdata/en/43/fc3fda87e1025de10000000a1553f7/frameset.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw70/helpdata/en/90/64553c845ba02de10000000a114084/frameset.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw70/helpdata/en/7e/001342743eda2ce10000000a1550b0/frameset.htm
check recommendation for using infosource
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw70/helpdata/en/44/0243dd8ae1603ae10000000a1553f6/frameset.htm
hope this helps.

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The use of InfoSources in BI 7.0

Hello everyone...
Is it still generally accepted practice to use InfoSources in BI 7.0? What will its use be more of for in BI 7.0? If it IS still needed in BI 7.0, should I define it on the datatarget?
Thank you.
Philips

Hi Philips,
Infosource is not mandatory anymore. Scenarios for flexible infosource:
A flexible infosource is necessary in order to use currency or unit conversion from the source datasource → define infosource as an intermediate structure
You can use a flexible infosource as a uniform source for several targets; the infosource can be the target from different sources.
So we can use an InfoSource as an optional structure between a transformation and another transformation. This is necessary, for example, to consolidate several sources into several targets or to use InfoObject-based information.
Note: for direct InfoSources (For master data updates), there is no difference between old and new infosource, i.e. you can define a transformation as well as transfer rules.
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I am taking data from two cubes into a single cube. I have loads of rules so only want to do those complicated transformations once.
So I have two source cubes going into a infosource with just standard transformations (ie. field to field mappings)
Then I have transformations from the infosource to the target cube with the complciated transformations (ie. routines etc).
So all looks good and I do want to use an infosource as I want to do the mapping rules one. ( So please dont respond that I dont have to use infosource in BI7, as I already know this )
Now that I have done that I cant see where to create a DTP to send data from the 2 source cubes to the infosource and then how to create a dtp to send data from the infosource to the target cube.
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Edited by: Shaun Enslin on Dec 23, 2007 9:41 PM

Hello Shaun,
you only can create DTP with a connection from one cube to another. In your case you will need two DTP: Once from cube 1 to target cube and another with connection between cube 2 and target cube. The system will automatically recognize that there is a infosource between this cubes and will perform it each time.
Bye.
Frank

Will you ever have to use an InfoSource in BI 7?

Hi,
for all the review that I've made so far, one thing that still confuses me is the role of an InfoSource in a BI 7.0 environment.
Will you ever have to use an InfoSource in BI 7? Any situation that calls for that?
Thanks

Hi........
1.In the BI 7 environment you may choose to bring an INFOSOURCE in the data flow.. Right?
Yes.......u r absoulately right......
2.u201CAn InfoSource is only required for complex transformations (multistep procedures) that cannot be performed in a one-step procedure.u201D
--what makes the model you provided u201Ccomplexu201D to bring in the InfoSource?
--So, in your model, what could not be performed in a u201Cone-step procedureu201D that necessitated the Infosource?
Is this what you ae trying to say:
that you used the first set of transformations as u201Ctransfer rulesu201D?
and you needed to use 3 additional transformations as u201Cupdate rulesu201D to the InfoProvider?
and are you saying here that those 3 steps (the 3 "update rules") are what you eliminated by combining them behind the InfoSource?
If that my understanding is right, why couldnu2019t you combine them behind a single new Tranformation but InfoSource, before the new Transformation?
Yes u can think it in that way also.....actually we use infosource in this case........to reduce the redundency of work............I mean suppose u need to write a End routine..........which will delete some fields......and this field exist in all the three datasource..........and every time......for each Transformation u hav to write the code........then its better........that u merge all the three Transformation in one Infosource........then a single transformation from the infosource to the target.......and in that Transformation u write down the sode.....
3. I read that you create a Transformation by right-clicking on the data target, to create the transformation under it. I donu2019t have access to a BI system now but your model suggests that it can be done, by right-clicking on the InfoSource, to create a Transformation under the InfoSource. Right?
i.e. that is how in your model you create 3 transformation under the InfoSource, right?.
Look first u hav to create the infosource............u can create Transformation by right clicking on the Datasource or the Target both.......so for the first three Transformation..........here the source is the Datasource and the target is the infosource..........so either right click on the Datasource or the infosource >> Create transformation........there as a target select infosource............Now for the second level transformation...............source is the infosource............so again either right click on the infosource or the target and create transformation.......
4. As part of my summary, I am also deducing that even in the BI 7 implementation, there are still two different types of datasources(3.5 and 7.0 datasource) since SAP is still on its way to make all datasources as according to BI7. And that even if you are in a pure BI 7 environment and you decide to use the 3.5 types of data sources, you have no option but to use InfoSource in your model. Right?
Look.......in BI 7.0 also............for 3.5 datasources u can use the old model............but if u use Emulated datasource (if you replicate the old DataSource to a NetWeaver 2004s BI system, we call this DataSource an 'emulated' DataSource. An 'emulated DataSource' is a DataSource that has the same 'look and feel' as the new DataSource, but is actually a BW 3.x DataSource)............if u migrate a datasource.then obviously u hav to use 7.0 flow..........
For an example..........BI 7.0 does'nt support Hierarchy datasource.....u cannot use it as Emulated datasource also.....u hav to use it as BW 3.X datasource only...so in that case u will use 3.X flow only..............
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Can anyone tell me if I can load data to OSD and Cube from one the same InfoSource? As I know, I have to have "0recordmode"(update mode) in communication structure for ODS not for Cube. So how can ODS and Cube use the same Infosucre to update data?
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John,
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For example, if you use AR or AP line item datasources, since you are extracting from both open line and closed line items tables, there could be multiple records for the same thing coming through. First when it appears as an open line item, and when it is paid, it appears again as a paid line item so if you update directly to the cube, you can have multiples of the real value. Thus in this instance you update from infosource to ODS then subsequently use delta update from ODS to cube. CCA and C0-PA on delta mode are example where there are no overlapping, thus you can update both ODS and Cube at the same time.
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Use of info source in BI 7.0

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Please priovide me the informations
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2) expert routine is using when our requirement was not satisfied with the standard rules, transformations. i want to know which routine is gud and advisable to use?
a) Start Routine or
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d) Expert routine
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Hi,
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[https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/e73bfc19-0e01-0010-23bc-ef0ad53f2fab]
[https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/servlet/prt/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/fc61e12d-0a01-0010-2883-e2fc63ef729b]
Routines in new BI 7.0 version:
[http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04s/helpdata/en/e3/732c42be6fde2ce10000000a1550b0/content.htm]
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Thanks a lot Roberto,
I have got one more question in that context.
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bworbust,
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http://help.sap.com/saphelp_bw33/helpdata/en/80/1a62bfe07211d2acb80000e829fbfe/content.htm
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http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/0b/f5cc3c7dea9006e10000000a114084/content.htm
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