Use of Keyword tags in shared photo files

Let's suppose, first off, that I have assigned person keyword tags to most of the photos in my catalog. Let us also suppose that I have explicitly written those tags to the photo files. Now, I would like to be able to share both the files and the keyword tags with family and friends so that they too can easily access files taken in a specific location or including a specific person. Short of buying a copy of PSE 9 for each (an act of generosity I can not afford), how do I share the information about these photos in a way that is accessible to someone not dedicated to, say, writing XSL code or something equally elaborately mind boggling?
I am running Adobe Photoshop Elements 9 on an iMac running OS X 10.65

OK, I'm a certified idot! I found the tag button, and all of the tags are there, Admittedly without spaces, but they work nicely.
Again, Thanks

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