Use of Process type Attribute Change Run and Rollup in Process Chaning

Hi SAP Gurus,
I have a doubt about the use of process types Attribute Change Run and Roll up in PC
If any1 can clear my doubts it would be helpful
if possible if any1 can tell me about the list of process types available in Process Chains it would be helpful
Thanks in advance

Change run process is used to re-activate the Attributes after changes
Roll up process is used to refresh a target (example : aggregates) after new data are uploaded into a Cube

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Process Chain Attribute Change Run

Hi Experts,
I am working BI 7.0 version, I am try to run Process chain showing warning Error in Infopackage level, Please find the below Error Message:
A type "Attribute Change Run" process has to follow process "Execute InfoPackage" var.ZPAK_4DLO5GB778XTBBM57040KMRW4 in the chain
Please provide me solutions, how to solve this issue, Please ASAP.
Thanks & Regards,
Bharathi.

Hi All,
Thanks a lot for ur assistance.
Thanks & Regards,
Bharathi.

Process chain hangs when reaching AND process before Attribute Change Run

Hi Experts,
I have the following problem. For some reason my master data attribute process chain hangs when it reaches the AND process variant right before the Attribute Change Run. It does not go anywhere from that point.
Thank you

hi AG,
if this is hanging daily at the same place without proceeding further, and with out giving the instance for the same. then the better way is to replace that AND process in the chain with the new AND process. and then check and activate ur chain. this wil solve ur problem.
if this is the first time that happend to u, then check the previous load status, if any of the load has failed and u didnt turned the status of the process then also this can happen. So please do check it and act accordingly. If u cannt find the resolution then please run ur changerun manually.
u can use RSPC_PRCESS_FINISH FM to convert the status of any process. for this u need to give instance and variant details. and then if u execute, then chain will continue further.
Hope this will help you.
thanks
Vishnu

Attribute Change Run and Editing BI data

Hello Experts,
I have two questions.(They are not related to each other).
Can BI data(Infocube data) be edited?
For eg GL account in R/3 is changed from 100 to 2100. I want to know how can this be handled in BI.
Attribute Change Run in the process chain ends with error.
"Master data characteristic ZACCTNUM activated in 6 seconds. Error while activating characteristic   ZACCTNUM ". There are no more information.
   The BWREMOTE user has the authorisation to Execute Change Run.
   What could be the possible reasons for this failure.
Thanks in advance.
Regards
Meenakshi

Hi Meenakshi,
Regarding your questons:
1. You can't edit the data directly in the cube. If you have incorrect data in the cube and the data is still in the PSA you can edit the incorrect data in the PSA and you can then delete the incorrect requests from the cube. You can then reload the correct data from the PSA. If its not an option to delete individual requests you could delete the incorrect data using the selective deletion option (if you can select on the incorrect data in the cube). You could then reload the correct data from PSA or source system.
2. Please check the infoobject ZACCTNUM is active in RSD1. If it is there may be an inconsistency with the data in the infoobject ZACCTNUM, please check if the solution part of the SAP note 1033721 can help you in this case.
Best Regards,
Des.

Attribute change Run and Infocube Problem

Hi SAP BW Experts ,
I am getting the following problem
2 days back our production system was down when Attribute change run is running in a process chain . After the system is up I triggered the Attribute change run manually for that specific master data Object. But the jobs was cancled automatically. When I checked the Job log I found the following messages
InfoCube XXX is locked by a terminated change Run
System error: RSDU_TABLE_COPY_INI/DDIF_TABL_ACTIVATE /BIC/E200073 /BIC/E100073 0
Message no. DBMAN100
When I verified manage screen in the Infocube XXX , one request is not rolled up . when I tried to rollup that particular request manually again I am getting the same message InfoCube XXX is locked by a terminated change Run
When I tried to create Indexes on that Infocunbe XXX , Again I am getting the same message InfoCube XXX is locked by a terminated change Run
When I tried to load data in to that Infocube I am getting the same message InfoCube XXX is locked by a terminated change Run
The Steps Taken By Me:
1. In SM12 , there are no lock entries for the Infocube XXX
2. According to A.H.P reply I verified the Support package . We are having Import Support package 18 for 3.10( BW 3.10 patch 18 or SAPKW31018 )
so I think there is no problem from patch side.
So please let me know by doing which task , I can eliminate the error message InfoCube XXX is locked by a terminated change Run

I got this reference from one of other site. Hope this solves issues of most of our ques on this topic.
We faced this problem and reported to OSS. They solved our problem.Here is
the answer from OSS
I connected to your BWQ system. I checked the table RSDDAGGRMODSTATEand
found an entrie for a change run "not yet" finished.
CNSID CLOSEDFL TIMESTMP_START TIMESTMP_END TSTPNM
207,851,300 20,030,910,141,500 0 SIDTLHG
As you can see, the field CLOSEDFL is blank (should be 'X' for an ended
change run) and the field TIMESTMP_END is also zero.
You can also check with the function module RSDDS_CHANGERUN_MONITOR as
in note 388069 that both objects you reported are the ones involved
with thi change run error (Infocube ZINV and Infoobject ZELEM_PEP):
E_CR_STATE C
E_T_CHANM 1 Entry (IOBJNM = ZELEM_PEP)
E_T_HIEID 0 Entries
E_T_AGGRSTATE 1 Entry (AGGRID = 3QR79ZYB6VGSDS3C42HPXMA8S
ICUBE = ZINV)
E_T_MSG 1 Entry (IOBJNM = ZELEM_PEP)
You have two choices to solve this problem. You cn either:
1.- Restart the change run and let it finish with ok.
The change run usually fails due to database errors, tablespace
problems, and when some user manually cancel it (NEVER should be
done!!)
2.- Change manually the entry from table RSDDAGGRMODSTATE that isdescribed
above. Set the field CLOSEDFL with a 'X' and also fill the field
TIMESTMP_END with a value with the following format
yy,yym,mdd,hhm,mss. Use, for example, '20,030,910,181,500'
IMPORTANT!!!
After this change on table RSDDAGGRMODSTATE, you have todeactivate
all aggregates, activate again and refill them!!
Hope this solves your error. If the issue is solved, please close this
message with the [confirm] button.
Best regards,
David =C1lvarez
SAP Active Global Support
The answer refers to our problem.We chosed option 2. Here is the AbAPcode:
REPORT ZLOCKED .
tables: RSDDAGGRMODSTATE.
select * from RSDDAGGRMODSTATE where CLOSEDFL = ' '.
RSDDAGGRMODSTATE-CLOSEDFL = 'X'.
RSDDAGGRMODSTATE-TIMESTMP_END = 20020912195015.
MODIFY RSDDAGGRMODSTATE.
ENDSELECT.

Aggregates with Attribute Change Run and Master data

Hi !
I created Aggregate which includes Master Data such as Customer , Customer Number , Material , Material Number.....
It also contains navigational attribute and hierarchy...
Now we all know that if Master data and Hierarchy changes frequently(or some new values are added or new attributes are added etc.) we want to see the respective change in Aggregates too
So just Rolling up aggregate will not help.
We need to apply Attribute Change run for this purpose, to aggregates..
Now the question is HOW TO APPLY ATTRIBUTE CHANGE RUN to aggregates?
How to automate this process with Process chains..?
If i create Aggregate on Master Data CUSTOMER NO., DOES IT AUTOMATICALLY INCLUDE THAT AGGREGATE IN ATTRIBUTE CHANGE RUN FOR THAT CUSTOMER NO. PROCESS CHAINS ? Yes or No..........
(What i mean to say is if there is Attribute Change Run for Customer No. and if this is in Process chains specially created for Customer Number , than as aggregates are created on Customer No., does i t automatically applies and make changes to Aggregate too, or do we hvae to create special process chian for it ?)
Please reply asap ? its urgent

hi,
check these links for attribute change run
What's the attribute change run? and the common sequence of a process chain
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_bw30b/helpdata/en/80/1a67ece07211d2acb80000e829fbfe/content.htm
regards
harikrishna N

Attribute change run and aggregates

Hi Gurus,
After loading to master data, we do the Attribute change run via RSA!->Tools and select the particular infoobject (which was loaded).
After this do we need to activate the aggregates or are they taken care by the change run which was done for the infoobject.
Also do we need to activate the master data via its context menu or is the attribute change run sufficient.
Thanks,

Whenever you load new datas into your master data table it wil be in M version(Modified version). you are running an attribute change run to change the M version to A version(Active version). so you dont have to activate the master data separately via its context menu.
The attribute change run will aslo take care of your aggregates. You dont have to activate your aggregates separately.

Attribute Change Run Process chain

Hi,
We have a attribute change run step in Process chain with "selective infoobjects".
But when it executes it runs attribute change run for all infoobjects apart from what i have mentioned in the variant.
Proof:
I had a snapshot of infoobject list in RSA1->Tools->Attribute change Run before executing process chain in which i saw info objects other than what i had in the variant.
I ran the process chain.
Again I saw the infoobject list RSA1->Tools->Attribute change Run and it was empty!!
Even though I mention some infoobject in process "Attribute change Run" It runs for all info objects irrespective of what I maintain in the variant.
This causes problem and creacting lock. If anyone ever observed this problem and resolved please let me know!!
Thanks
VJ

well here is the POC ,I have nw204s SP-12 .
Steps followed -
Monitor of change run - 3 infoobjects currently waiting for CR.
Built PC with Process type "Attribute Change" only ..no other process types barring "Start" which is imperative.
Included only 2 Infoobjects from the 3 aforementioned.
Scheduled as immediate and it executed CR for the 2 only,so my CR monitor shows now 1 pending for CR to be run,which is as expected.
So as per Proof of Concept sp-12 works with process type "Attribute Change"
You may wish to check your process chain again and in worst case raise an OSS to SAP.
Hope it Helps
Chetan
@CP..

Attribute Change Run in Procee chain.

I am trying to create a process chain for loading employee master data. I have three datasources populating this data.
So in the process chain I have to add the Change Run process type only after loading data from all datasources right ?
what is the process type 'Attribute Change Run' useful for anyway ?

You are correct. If the loads to the employee Master Data Attributes are done serially, then you can end it with the 'Attribute Change Run' variant. If the loads to the employee Master Data Attributes are done in parallel, then you can have all three InfoPackages flow into an 'AND' variant and then have the 'Attribute Change Run' variant.
The 'Attribute Change Run' in effect activates the Master Data Attributes, much like the activation process of activation of a DSO. The way it does it technically behind the scenes, however, is different.

Issue with Attribute change run

Hi All
today one of my team memeber has killed attrribute change run, after that when we tried to use option maintain master data, a message were coming attrtibute has cancelled, please re run, even we were not able to load same infobjects, getting message, master data is locked, when it tried to see data in p table then i was getting few entries having delate and insert image( example for infoobject 0customer for customer number c100 two entries one with d flga other one with in flag.)
First i went in t code se14, i put all tables name then cliecked on activate and adjust data.
Even though problem persist,
Also i was not getting any infobjects in lsit( from rsa1-> tools-> attr change run)
Then i created one dummy process chain with process type attr change run and included only inoobject with which i was facing data load issue.
Please advice on my step.
Thanks,
Prem

Hi,
Goto RSATTR Tcode -> Click on Tab Monitor and Start Terminated Change Run -> system will open a new screen -> here you can see the failed change run, please rerun this failed change run and then try to load data, after successful change run things will be normal.
SAP Clearly suggest NOT TO KILL OR CANCEL Change Run Job. If this don't solve you issue, you may need to look for some SAP Note.

Attribute change run process type failed with short dump

Hi all,
In the process chain Attribute change run process type failed with short dump. I checked the locks in SM12 but there are no locks associated. I checked in the attribute change run screen through RSA1 -> infoobject list but there are no infoobjects there. I think the ACR was completed successfully, still the process type in the PC was in red colour. What to do and let me know what happened here.
Thanks,
Jack

1. This kind of scenario is extremely rare but it happens sometimes. It might be the case that 2 attribute change runs are running at the same time.
2. Same IO is being used in Differnet PC and getting activated.
I think if this frequently occurs you need to check at the time of locking all running jobs and see whether anywhere else or simultaneously 2 ACR are running.
Please do close the thread if that answers your questions. Please help us keep the forums clean and open useful information only.
For more information search on help.sap.com and you will get lots of material.
Regards.
Den

IO and Attribute Change Run

Hi experts,
i have IO and i am not sure if this IO is a part of Process Chain ( Attribute Change Run).
Could i find out it ( something as Where-Used-list over IO) ?
I don't want to "open" ALL process chains and find "my" IO.
Thanks in advance
Martin

Hi Martin,
Check if table RSPCVARIANT helps.
In type enter - ATTRIBCHAN
In field name -INFOOBJECT
In the low option field - key in your infoobject name.
This will give you all the attribute change run variants in the system using this infoobject.
Nex you could go to any chain, go to change mode, go to process types, double click on chage run - select the variant from the list you obtain above, while you try to insert this variant , system will display a message in the popup, that the variant has been used in other chains, do you want to display the other chain. If you say yes, you will see the other chain.
Hope this helps,
Regards,
Sunmit.

Attribute Change Run" process cannot precede process "Execute InfoPackage

hi all,
i have changed process chain, after changing the chain i have click the check button and activated. then iam getting this error
A type "Attribute Change Run" process cannot precede process "Execute InfoPackage" var. ZPAK_C0BVLUDKPEPXGXFMHQ67RFI9L in the chain.
please help me out
thanks advance
sudheer.

Hi,
Your process chain shud have the following sequence:
Start Process> Loading of master data> AND process (if u have multiple master loads)-->Attribute Change Run
And all the linkages between the processes shud only be "SUCCESSFUL". Create new variants for all processes you enter in your process chain.
Check you chain before you activate. If it gives you exlamatory sign, the also u can go ahead with activation as it is giving u just the warnings.....
Hope it'll help u.......
Preet

"Attribute Change Run" process has to follow process "Execute InfoPack

Hi All,
i created process chain for M.D SD area. here i created start varient, then execute info package process created and when i am checking that it showing some warning message like ....
A type "Attribute Change Run" process has to follow process "Execute InfoPackage" var.ZPAK_4B9B5FH2BTQJOBTBAWHVM5ZY2 in the chain.
Here i can't understand what i have to do....
Any inputs for this...........
Thanx in Advance
Subbu.

hi,
Check master data objects in both process types "Excute info package" after start varianet and in attribut echange run process type.
Both should match or system will throw error message.
The concept is like Attribute change run has to run when ever new data is loaded to master data attributes.
Regards,
Arun Thangaraj

Error in process chain with attribute change runs

We have one warning is coming in one process chain :A type "Attribute Change Run" process cannot precede process "Execute InfoPackage"
We checked the Process View , we found that there are number of attribute change run after each scheduling of Info package with different datasource but for same data target.
How to remove this warning .
Some onsite person has added this extra Attribute Change Run recently.

Hi Surendra,
If it is the same Info-object that is getting loaded through different Info-packages then have only 1 "Attribute Change Run" process at the end. You can ignore the warning.
Bye
Dinesh

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