Use of Product cost collector in REM

Hi All,
I am new to PP module, I got some doubts when working on costing of the product.
1. In REM scenario why do we need an extra step of creating product cost collector ??
2. when a product is produced will the prod cost collector is used for both debiting(raw and semi) and crediting(finished prod) ?

Dear Reddy,
1.Product cost collector is the cost collecting object for a period based production or in a REM - repetitive manufacturing
scenario.
2.Without having any product cost collector you cannot carryout production confirmation(assembly backflush) for a product.
3.So for all the products for which production confirmation will be declared requires a individual product cost collector.
4.Prior to this you require a production version for the material.
5.Production version and a product cost collector is also the master data for a REM scenario.
Now check and revert back.
Regards
Mangalraj.S

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Error while creating product cost collector in REM ?

HI, all SAP expert,
I have to run repetitive manufacturing .
I create work center of category production line and use in rate routing of semifinished material.
In mm02 -- mrp 4 view of semifinished material , i select rem profile , production version.
Now I create product cost collector ( t-code kkf6n) for semi. material by giving order type (yrem), production version after enter it shows error
Error in number management (notify your system administrator)
in help it shows
Error in number management (notify your system administrator)
Message no. KO162
Diagnosis
A system error occurred in the number management.
Procedure
Please contact your systems analyst or the SAP hotline.
Edited by: Nitin Nerkar on Sep 30, 2009 12:16 PM

Dear Nitin,
Check whether is the number range maintained properly for the order type RM01,check the config setting in T Code
KOT2_PKOSA.
This is related to CO Module.
Check and revert back.
Regards
Mangalraj.S

Automatic product cost collector in REM

Hi,
Could someone please let me know if there exists any functional module / BAPI to create product cost collector auomatically in background ?
Many thanks
Regards
Seshu

Hi Satish,
Thanks for the response,
I have come across a functional module KK_F_PKOSA_CREATE which creates product cost collector.
Have you / someone in the forum come across this functional module ?
Also please let me know if we can schedule KKF6M in background for all REM materials and plants to create product cost collector ?
Look forward for the response
Thanks
Regards
Seshu

REM Product cost collectors and Production version

Hi All,
Can some one pls let me know
What are the product cost collectors in REM and how to create the product cost collectors ?
What is the production version and the difference between production version and controlling version?
Thanks & Regards,
Bujji

Dear Bujji,
A product cost collector is a cost object in Product Cost by Period that collects the periodic actual costs incurred in the production of a material. It can be created in txn KKF6N.
[Product Cosr Collector|http://help.sap.com/saphelp_47x200/helpdata/EN/08/77ba810a1611d3a6b900104b55d538/frameset.htm]
[Product Cost Collectors: Collective Entry for Repetitive Manufacturing |http://help.sap.com/saphelp_47x200/helpdata/EN/08/77ba810a1611d3a6b900104b55d538/frameset.htm]
A production version determines the various production techniques that can be used to produce a material. It defines the following information:
Alternative BOM for a BOM explosion
Task list type, task list group, and group counter for assignment to task lists
Lot-size restrictions and period of validity
A material can have one or more production versions.
It can be defined in the Material Master (txn MM02) in one of the following views:
MRP 4
Work Scheduling
Costing 1
The costing version is a different issue. It is a costing parameter and is used to save several cost estimates for the same material, with the same costing variant and the same costing date (e.g. in oder to cost the material several times with minor changes without creating new costing variants).
BR,
Antje

Rem product cost collector

Hai gurus,
I have one doubt in REM product cost calculation.
1) when I am running PCC for REM I met with following error as - Routing does not match with selection
ID 01.
How to correct the error.
Regards,
sekar chand.

Dear Sekar,
1.While creating product cost collector,use Production version as the controlling level.
2.Check RM01 is the order type and ensure your production version is without any errors.
3.Ensure you have selected rate routing in the task list type in the production version.
4.Check what routing selection id is assigned in MRP parameters in OPPQ and also in the scheduling
parameters in OPU5 for the order type PE.
5,Your routing selection id should be a one which gives the first priority to the rate routing R.
Now check and come back with your further queries.
Regards
Mangalraj.S

How to see materials which donot comes under product cost collector

hello every body,
can any one help me in finding materials which donot comes under product cost collector.
thanks for all the people who are supporting me
regards,
Bh.krishna mohan

Dear Krishna,
1.Usally the product cost collectors will be maintained for the materials which are executed using a REM scenario.
2.Check in table MARC for the materials for which REM profile does not exists(means this field should be empty) for a given plant.
3.After executing download this and if needed pass it to MARA table to get the FERT and HALB materials.
4.So only those materials for which REM profile is empty ,the product cost collector does not exists.
Check and revert with your queries.
Regards
S Mangalraj

Essence of product cost collectors

In REM
what is essence of product cost collector (KKF6n), {As I understand production cost collectors
are cost carrying elements}, but needs to have more insights like how it captures
production costs ( i.e through activities, price maintained in accounting view....)
Does it make any difference if product cost collector is executed before MRP run, or it has
to be executed only after MRP run

Dear Eshwer,
1.Product Cost collector is one of the master data in REM scenario.
2.This product cost collector is no where related to MRP.
3.Product Cost collector is used as a cost object in REM scenario,which means all the cost will be
booked under this product cost collector for that material.
4.Whatever the confirmations that are done in MFBF or MF41 or MF42N,the cost will get debited or
credited accordingly for that material and the impact will be seen in the product cost collector.
5.This product cost collector will be having an order number which will be used for order settlement and
variance calculation.
6.For creating a product cost collector you will require a production version.
7.so whenever you do an assembly or activity or component backflush,the cost will be booked under
this product cost collector.
8.So as such there's no relation between MRP and a product cost collector.
I hope this pints will help you to some extent.
Revert back with your further queries.
Regards
Mangalraj.S

Question in Product Cost Collectors

Hi All,
I have one question in Product Cost Collectors.
We are using REM and we have multiple products with same BOM routing. Is it possible to assign several materials to to one Product Cost Collector inorder to reduce number of cost collectors.
For example, for routing we can create a Group and assign serveral materials to a group.
Thanks and Regards
Purushothaman

Hi Purushottam,
In REM, it is required to create it for every material.
Even if material has more than one production version, need to create separate Product Cost Collector.
Some more explanation on Product Cost Collector -
u2022 Object in cost accounting used in Repetitive Manufacturing.
u2022 A separate product cost collector can be created for each production version or material. The collected costs are settled to inventory at the end of the period.
u2022 The functions performed for product cost collector during the period end closing process include :
u2022     Work in process (WIP) caculation
u2022     Variance calculation
u2022     Settlement
u2022 In Repetitive Manufacturing, all costs attributed to the production of a material are collected on a product cost collector and settled periodically (period-based Controlling).
u2022 The product cost collector is settled periodically according to the posting period (for example monthly) .
u2022 For a material , product cost collector is made for each version
u2022 The actual cost collected can be viewed through product cost collector.
Hope it is clear now.
Srini

MFBF run before updating product cost collector

Dear Sir,
I have done cost run through CK40N and not updated the Product cost collector. So system should stop me doing MFBF (Backflashing).
But without update to Product cost collector system is allowing to do MFBF (Backflashing).
Can u guide what could be the problem. Either it is

Hi,
In your REM profile you might have defined to backflush using Prel. cost estimate rather than std. cost estimate, please check and revert back.
Regards
Ramana

Cost Collector for REM

Dear All,
can anybody explain me the total configuration for cost collector.
only i tell u which i have done yet.
i have made a rem profile and assigned it to a fert.
now please explain me what should i do to run Repetititve manufacturing.

Dear Shoaib,
1.The default order type for creating product cost collector for the REM related materials will be RM01.
2.For creating the product cost collector generally a production version or else (BOM and routing) is required.
3.Product cost collectors can be created using KKF6N and using the same T code pre.costing can also be made.
4.For a multiple list of materials the product cost collectors can be made using KKF6M.
5.Preliminary costing may be made using MF30.
For making prod.confirmation through MFBF,you need a product cost collector as this the cost collecting object in REM.
Now come back with your further queries.
Regards
Mangalraj.S

How to maintain One product cost collector for multiple materials and configuration setting

Hi experts,
my requirement is that i want to maintain one product cost collector for multiple materials ans also i want to know the configuration setting for the same.
I have used KKF6N but it is not working in my case. I went through KKF6M also but there i found multiple cost collectors.
please guide me in the same.
Thanks in advance.

Hi Shripad,
you cannot assign same Product cost collector to different material.
Because you creating cost collector for material combination of material /production version,material /Bom Routing.
so please create individual cost collector for every material.
if you have any query kindly revert back.
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Error while creating Product Cost Collector

Hi SAP Gurus,
While creating Product Cost Collector I am getting the following Error:
Enter a distribution rule for Order without a validity limit
Message no. KD059
Diagnosis
The settlement profile used requires you to define a distribution rule for Order. For period 009 2008, however, you have not created a distribution rule for Order.
Procedure
Create a distribution rule for Order without a validity limit, because, if the distribution rule does have a validity limit, the system always issues this message in the period following the last valid period.
You can also use a different settlement profile that does not require such a distribution rule, or change the settlement rule used.
Can any one help where exactly i need to maintain this.
The settlement profile settings are fine.
I am getting this error only after i have changed the scenario to Reproting point back flushing

Dear Suryanarayana
Please check the corresponding settlement profile for product orders.
In most of the cases message KD059 means that no distribution rule is assigned to your production order.
This is not an error, but the system design. In order to avoid message KD059 you will either have to enter settlements parameters and a distribution, or change settlement profile for valid receivers in transaction OKO7 from 'settlement required' to 'Can be settled'.
I hope this helps resolve the issue for you. I wish you the best in your endeavours.
Kind Regards,
Brendan

Transfer of Costs in Product Cost Collector to COPA

Dear Experts,
Please can you advise me on this current issue I'm having. Below is a description of problem:
Customer is currently using report designed in COPA (KE30) to derive P&L report for using Plant as a characteristic.
This was being done at a time when Product Costing functionality was not being used
All costs (administrative, sales and production costs) were being collected in cost centers
At end of month assessment of cost center values to COPA is executed (KEU5)
Customer is then able to derive P&L report per Plant characteristic
However with implementation of Product Costing, all Production related costs are captured in Product Cost Collectors and not Cost Center
Hence we have no way of assessing or transferring total production costs from Product Cost Collector to CO-PA
We have tried to configure FI/MM PA transfer structure (KEI1) and default account assignment (OKB9) for automatic transfer of costs on goods receipt/issue, however this is not working because the product cost collector is used as the default account assignment for the transactions
So far only material cost valuation of sales/billed materials are possible (which does not address concern)
As a result we have a gap and customer is unable to derive P&L by Plant from CO-PA.
Can you advise if there is a way out, in order to have all Production Cost transferred to CO-PA.
Thanks,
Ola.

Hi Ola
Your Cost centers would be categorized as below
1. MFG Cost Centers (In Plant)
2. Service Cost Centers (In Plant)
3. Few Cost centers (outside plant) Eg: Sales, Marketing, Sales offices etc
At period end
1. Allocate the Costs from SER CC to MFG CC using Distribution / Assessment cycle.
This will make SER CC as zero
2. Calculate actual activity price in MFG CC (KSS2 / KSII)
3. After this, do revaluation of PCC using CON2.. This will make balance in MFG CC as zero
4. Allow the Variances to be updated to COPA by ticking the "Variances to Costing based COPA" in your settlement profile
5. In short, what remains for you to allocate to COPA is the 3rd category of CC.. i.e. you should allocate those CC to COPA whose cost is not included in the cost of product using COPC module
Br. Ajay M

Report to analyze multiple product cost collectors

Hi,
Is there any report which can be used be analyze more than one product cost collector (material) on actual and target cost and usage,
Basically just as KKBC_PKO can be used to analyze a single material at a time
Is there anyway to use it for more than one material ?

Built a Z-Report
The Z-report can be reused for any other sap instance also

CO88 - Collective Settlement Processing for Product cost collectors

Hello Gurus,
I have couple of Settlement related problems. Please advice if you have any solution to fix these problems.
1.We are using CO88 - Collective Settlement Processing for Product cost collectors but some of the cost collectors are not settling fully. Where as the same cost collector settled individually without any problem.
2. Some cost collectors are settled but very small amounts are still there as un-settled.
Thanks in advance.
Vishwanath.

Hi
Welcome to SDN! We hope your 1st experience here is good
Issue 1: It depends on the error that you got at the time of settlement... Many times, when a PCC is being posted to from Production while you are trying to settle, it can give you error...
later on it can be settled w/o any issues
Issue 2: Ideally there does not remain any amount after settlement.. May be the amount which you are seeing pertains to the next month.. You can shift to periodic view using CtrlShiftF11 and see if any balance really exists
BR,Ajay M

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