Use of "Rounding work days" in shipping point?

Hi, Could someone please explain to me how the "rounding work days" in shipping point is used for ATP purpose (within R/3 itself)?
Let's assume that the Delivery date is coming up as 18th Nov, 2011 08:00:00 hrs in schedule line, and the rounding work days is maintained as 0.2 days. Assume that the route has 1 day for transport, and this route time is relevant as per shipping point configuration.
What would be the value of GI date/time that I should expect for the schedule line?
Do I simply convert 0.2 days to hrs in 00:00:00 format, and subtract this time for delivery date to arrive at GI date, or could any other master data come into picture for GI date calculation?
I am currently seeing GI on 17th Nov, 2011 00:00:00 hrs, and not able to understand this value of GI time.
PS: Calendar for route is a custom calendar with working time from 00:00 to 24:00 hrs on all weekdays (monday to friday), and no working hrs are maintained at the shipping point.

Hi,
If the current date is 03.11.2011.
you have maintained rounding work days 2 days. days specifyied in route is 1day.
then if you raise an order for current date.system will propose schedule lines after 3 days it means 07.11.2011.
Thank you,

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