Use Profit Center instead Business Area in LP

Hello,
I am following SAP Notes 746810 - Free use of Business area account assignment dimension and SAP Note 763985 - Structured substitution of the business area.
The main idea is to change the dimension Business Area per Profit Center in the Liquidity Calculation.
In the table FLQGSBER_SUBST was expanded and I added the field ZZPRCTR (Profit Center).
My doubt is related to the maximum length 4 for Business Area and the profit center here is length 10. How can I convert it?
Do you know which exit function I have to tought?
Than you in advance
Mauricio Brigide

Hi Mauricio,
Did you have success with those notes application? We need to show cash flow by profit or cost center and we believe that this procedure can help us to achieve this LP Gap.
Thanks,
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