Use R3 46C as BI open hub destination 3rd party

Hi.
I am implementing Open Hub Service to 3rd party tool from SAP_BW version 700 N° 15 to R/3 46C, PI version 2004_1_46C.
I get following error when trying to send the data : "SYSTEM_FAILURE, with RSB_OHS_3RDPARTY_NOTIFY".
I think 3rd party tools, called from BI by RFC are not implemented on my R3 system. Still, theese function modules are present in BI.
How can theese tools can be added to my R3 system ?
Regards,
Michaël Gaudet

Hi,
Pls go thru,
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/ce/c2463c6796e61ce10000000a114084/frameset.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/ce/c2463c6796e61ce10000000a114084/frameset.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/ce/c2463c6796e61ce10000000a114084/frameset.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/ce/c2463c6796e61ce10000000a114084/frameset.htm
Hope it helps you.
Thanks & Regards,
SD

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       1.      You define an open hub destination with Third-Party Tool as the destination type.
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       3.      You use API RSB_API_OHS_DEST_SETPARAMS to define the parameters for the third-party tool that are required for the extraction.
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       5.      When the extraction process is finished, the system sends a notification to the third-party tool using API RSB_API_OHS_3RDPARTY_NOTIFY.
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The Third Party tool needs parameters or switches to work correctly. Think of the old DOS commanda the "/a" "/b" suffix.
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If your tool does not need them, don't worry about them.
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dear all,
can any one guide me as to how data(master data in particular) from bw can be transferred to oracle data base using open hub destiantion.is rfc connection between bw and third part tool enough,do we have to maintain the same structure in third party tool before executing DTP and how can this be done??
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Some light at the end of tunnel for sure...
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       3.      You use API RSB_API_OHS_DEST_SETPARAMS to define the parameters for the third-party tool that are required for the extraction.
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For more details click below -
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw2004s/helpdata/en/43/7a69d9f3897103e10000000a1553f7/content.htm
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In our project we have Client Instance (eg: BWPD) and Application server (eg: BWPRD) defined for load balancing.
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When i execute the DTP manually in BWPD, it runs succesfully.
However, the same DTP when placed in the process chain fails with error message :
No Such File or Directory
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Tried with Application server it failed.
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[Creating Open Hub Destination using a Logical file to extract the data|Creating Open Hub Destination using a Logical file to extract the data]
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I am facing the following problem in transporting the openhub destination.
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We have ticked the application Server name checkbox.
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While transporting it to our Quality system, it throws an error saying it does not recognize the server name (which is true, the server name is different in quality system).
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