"Use Toolkit Package" and "Gather" - When do you have to run them?

Greetings,
  I have inherited a huge task sequence (MDT 2012 integrated with SCCM 2012) that calls "Use Toolkit Package" and "Gather" many many times even though there are only a few reboots.
  Is it true that the "Use Toolkit package" step (followed immediately by Gather) only need to be run right at the beginning of the TS and only after every reboot?
  Is it also true that the "Gather" step on it's own only needs to be run when you have run another step which may alter/create a variable which is used in the rules? (i.e. customsettings.ini).
Thanks
David Z

Thanks.
My question was when exactly do you need to run the steps. I suspect that many people have task sequences with loads of "use toolkit package" and "gather" in places when they are NOT needed.
First let's look at the step "Use Toolkit Package". There is no reference to that task sequence step in the MDT documentation. Im aware that this simply copies the "deployment share" so all the scripts etc that are necessary for future task sequence steps
are available (In MDT only environments this was not necessary as the UNC path to the deployment share was always available - so this is an SCCM only step). Your reference states that it copies it to the local hard drive. This is not entirely true. I understand
that when Winpe is loaded, it is loaded into a ramdrive and therefore my "Use Toolkit package" step which is the first in the task sequence is loaded somewhere into the "RAM" drive (probably under "X" drive somewhere?).
So my assumption is that "Use toolkit package" must be run as the first task sequence step, then any time immediately after the winpe system is restarted. If, during winpe and before the OS is loaded onto the hard drive, you format the hard drive (which
is often the case), you do not need to run "Use Toolkit.." as it still exists in the RAM drive. When you apply the OS and restart, and then run "Use toolkit.." again, it must magically work out that it is to then load to the hard drive and not the RAM drive.
However, once the "deployment share" has been loaded to hard drive, Im assuming that you never need to run the "Use toolkit.." again even if the system restarts as once it is loaded to the hard drive, it remains there (assuming you dont format disks again
which is unlikely after the OS has loaded).
The answer to "when must you run Gather" is alot trickier. The first assumption is that Gather has to be run immediately after "Use toolkit..." as the system has initialised or restarted and none of the variables created by "gather" exist.
Im guessing that "gather" may need to be run when you suspect that something in the rules file has changed. For example, you may have run a task sequence step that sets variable "A" for the first time. Your rules file may generate another variable, "B",
based on variable "A" so "gather" must be run to evaluate "B".
However, once the OS has loaded and "gather" has been run, the variables.dat file is created and remains permanently on disk so that if the machine is restarted again, you dont have to run "gather" as all the variables persist in variables.dat.
All of the above is an educated guess as I have searched the web extensively and have not found a definitive explanation. I would be grateful if anything above could be confirmed/denied so this could remain as a definitive guide  that may not help just
me, but others :-).
Thanks
David Z

Similar Messages

  • TS failing on Use Toolkit Package

    Started to have problems installing Win7 x64 on machines (HP EliteBook 9470) after removing drivers belonging to other package.
    Keep on getting these error messages:
    C:\_SMSTaskSequence\Packages\S01000FB\Scripts\ZTISCCM.wsf(11, 3) (null): Library not registered.
    C:\_SMSTaskSequence\Packages\S01000FB\Scripts\ZTISCCM.wsf(1655, 4) Microsoft VBScript-runtime error: Object needed: 'oUtility.Arguments'
    Failed to run the action: Use Toolkit Package.
    Incorrect function. (Error: 00000001; Source: Windows)
    As stated above, the drivers that were removed belonged to another package (another HP machine), so it should not have affected this package. Or so i thought...
    Every HP 9470 now bombs out on Use Toolkit Package, after the step "Setup Windows and ConfigMgr".
    Initially i figured this was a driver related error, so drivers for the NIC has been removed and imported again (Intel 82579LM).
    I've tried three different file versions, two from HP and one (newer date) from Dell and finally a native driver from Intel (dated from this year) to no avail.
    The files are all downloaded fine.
    I can ping internal servers and external sites.
    When the machine boots up after this failed install, the icon for wireless connection behaves weird:
    It shows as if there are wireless networks available but not connected.
    Hovering the mouse over, it does say that it is connected and i can reach both internal servers and external websites.
    Unplug and replug the network cable results in the icon for cabled network showing up for a few seconds, then disappering again, acting as if there is no LAN card available.
    There are no missing drivers (no exclamation marks) in Device manager.
    Anyone else seen this or something like it?
    This happens on any HP machine we have.

    Hi,
    Have you found any solution for this?
    We have the same problem in our environment.
    SCCM 2012 R2 CU1 with MDT 2013
    The problem shows itself when deploying Windows 7 x64 with x86 boot image on the HP z420 and HP zBook 14. HP 9470 has not been tested yet. However, everything works fine with x64 boot. I do not want to use the Z64 boot image!
    Does anyone have any solution for this?
    The error just popped up by itself without us consciously made any changes in the environment. Has worked well previously with the x86 boot image and Win7 x64 on these models before.
    TWP

  • I cant download anything including Updates, when i try to download a black box appears saying that i have to power off the laptop using the button, and it freezes, so i have no option but to power off. Please HELP

    I cant download anything including Updates, when i try to download a black box appears saying in 4 different languages that i have to power off the laptop using the button, and it freezes, so i have no option but to power off. Please HELP

    Well, at least it's good that there are no hardware issues - that's a relief and one problem area that you can check off.
    OK, so let's summarize so I can get a clear picture of what's going on. If you try to download something from your web browser, what happens? What if you try to download a small utility such as "EasyFind" from the App Store? Or is the problem specifically linked to downloading updates?
    I'm just trying to get a feel for if anything really means anything?
    Usually what you download from, say, a website, goes into your Downloads folder. It's the default folder for things like that. Apps from the App Store are downloaded to your Applications folder. And software updates are generally, I believe, held in a temporary folder so that they can be installed (in many cases) when you're asked to restart.
    It could be something as simple as repairing permissions on your start-up disk. You're running Snow Leopard, right? (That's what your profile says.) Try opening Disk Utility from your Utilities folder, selecting your boot disk and try verifying permissions. If you come up with some errors, try repairing permissions. After that, go ahead and verify your boot disk - you won't be able to repair it at this point, but at least you can see if you have any errors.
    Let me know about the anything and get back to me after you've verified and repaired permissions and verified your boot drive.
    Good luck,
    Clinton

  • I've lost half of my icons such as calculator, fonts, chess, automator,ichat,ical it it saying that you can use this version with the OSX.  You have version 4.04. And, there is no way to update them.  What do you do?

    I've lost half of my icons such as calculator, fonts, chess, automator,ichat,ical it it saying that you can use this version with the OSX.  You have version 4.04. And, there is no way to update them.  What do you do?

    If I'm understanding you correctly, those apps have stopped working and you are getting a message saying that they won't work with this version of Mac OS X when you try to open them. Is that right? If so, have you moved those apps out of their original locations? That is a bad idea, as it prevents them from being properly updated. If this is what has happened, what version of the system were you running before they stopped working, and what version are you running now, after installing the update that has made them stop working?

  • Can you use color splash on a photo that was edited in black and white or do you have to mask the photo before editing it in black and white?

    can you use color splash on a photo that was edited in black and white or do you have to mask the photo before editing it in black and white?

    I think you are asking whether it makes an difference whether you create the mask before or after you edit the black & white version. The answer is that since the color version and the b&w version are on different layers (as seen here), it makes no difference when you edit the b&w version.
    Also consider another technique that separates the color element in the image. Here, the area surrounding the color image is a line interpretation of the scene, similar to a Tone Line Conversion, a technique that was created with film many years ago.  (I am so old,  I still remember how it was done.) This is how to get the result similar to the one shown above but with a line illustration created in Photoshop replacing the b&w layer version:
    1. Open an image. This technique is more successful if the image you select has many clearly defined edges.
    2. Make a duplicate layer. (Cmd+J). It becomes Layer 1
    3. With Layer 1 chosen, go to Filter>Blur>Smart Blur. Set the Quality to High and the Mode to Edge Only. The default settings are Radius 3.0, Threshold 25.0. To increase the amount of detail in the line conversion, raise the Radius setting. Use the white-on-black illustration within Smart Blur as a guide. Then click OK.
    4. The line illustration will appear as white lines in a black background. To change this to black-on-white, choose Image>Adjustments>Invert.
    5. Insert a new layer below Layer 1. It will serve as the background for the line illustration. To do this, hold down the Command key while clicking on the New Layer symbol at the bottom of the Layers panel. It is the second symbol from the right. It will become Layer 2.
    6. Fill this new layer with a light color. To do this, click on the Foreground Color symbol in the Tools section. It will open the Color Picker. Choose a light color and click OK.
    7. Choose Edit>Fill. Use: Foreground Color.  Mode: Normal. Opacity: 100% and click OK. Layer 2 will fill with the color. Although it will not appear in the image because Layer 1 is above it, a quick check of the Layers panel will confirm that the color you chose has filled Layer 2.
    8. Remove the white area from in Layer 1. Go to Layer 1. Choose the Magic Wand tool. Uncheck the Contiguous box in the Options Bar and click in a white area of the image. Next, click the Delete key.  Choose Select>Deselect to remove the marching ants. 
    9. (Optional)  You may now change the line illustration in Layer 1 from black to a dark color compatible with the color in Layer 2. To choose the color, click on the Foreground Color symbol in the Tools section. It will open the Color Picker. Choose a suitable dark color and click OK. While in Layer 1, click the first symbol next to the word  Lock:  in the Layers panel above Layer 1. This will prevent the dark color from appearing in the blank area of Layer 1. Choose Edit>Fill. Use: Foreground Color.  Mode: Normal. Opacity: 100% and click OK. The black lines will change to the dark color you chose.
    10. Combine Layers1 and 2: While in Layer 1, choose Layer>Merge Down. The layers are combined into a single layer called Layer 2.
    11.  Add a black mask to Layer 2 by clicking on the Mask symbol at the bottom of the Layers panel. It is the symbol to the right of the fx symbol. Where you would like full color objects to appear within the line rendition, paint in white on the black mask with a brush set to either soft-edge or hard-edge as the illustration and your taste dictate.  

  • I have an iphone 4, i connect it to my laptop using the usb and then when connecting to itunes it says my phone is not up to date with itunes yet i cannot find an update 11.1 for my phones itunes? someone please help me.. kind regards

    i have an iphone 4, i connect it to my laptop using the usb and then when connecting to itunes it says my phone is not up to date with itunes yet i cannot find an update 11.1 for my phones itunes? someone please help me.. kind regards

    Itunes 11.1 is for your computer, not your iphone
    It is required in order to sync with ios 7.

  • Hi, I activated my CS6 in 2012 under my student licence and still using it. I've heard that you can't run CS6 on multiple computers. How do I transfer it from one computer to another as I am switching computers?

    Hi, I activated my CS6 in 2012 under my student licence and still using it. I've heard that you can't run CS6 on multiple computers. How do I transfer it from one computer to another as I am switching computers?

    Hi,
    first, I'm not Adobe's "slave" as you might to accuse me. Most of the posters here are users like me.
    I only can repeat that what I found in Adobe's help sites, as I wrote above. You are free to figure out the "real" truth and - the best would be - you may contact Adobe directly, here are - I'm sure you know them -  the links I would use: http://helpx.adobe.com/support.html  and http://helpx.adobe.com/contact.html.
    Hans-Günter

  • There any way to know where my ipad, because it was stolen? and do not use iCloud? besides not remember if you have installed any applications to track it?

    there any way to know where my ipad, because it was stolen? and do not use iCloud? besides not remember if you have installed any applications to track it?

    If you did not set up Find My iPad, then there is no way to track it. Contact the police and change any passwords for any online accounts you may have used from your iPad (the iTunes Store, for instance). 
    Regards.

  • Using Firefox with my Yahoo account, email picture attachments are missing. If I open with Safari the pictures are there and viewable. Do you have any suggestions so?

    I use Yahoo mail, and recently when I receive an emailed picture, the attachment is missing. I thought this was a Yahoo issue and contacted them. They told me to try Safari and the pictures in my mail account are visible. So I went back to Firefox, cleared my caches, history etc... and I updated Firefox, my ad-ons and restarted my computer and the pictures are still not visible via Firefox. I like using Firefox, but I need to be able to view pictures ( In place of the picture attachment is shows: 3.txt

    I use Yahoo mail, and recently when I receive an emailed picture, the attachment is missing. I thought this was a Yahoo issue and contacted them. They told me to try Safari and the pictures in my mail account are visible. So I went back to Firefox, cleared my caches, history etc... and I updated Firefox, my ad-ons and restarted my computer and the pictures are still not visible via Firefox. I like using Firefox, but I need to be able to view pictures ( In place of the picture attachment is shows: 3.txt

  • TS3367 Nowhere on my iPhone 4 can I activate FaceTime... I've tried using contacts, settings, and even when I call someone with an active FaceTime, the FaceTime icon is not lit up. Any suggestions?

    Nowhere on my iPhone 4 can I activate FaceTime... I've tried using contacts, settings, and even when I call someone with an active FaceTime, the FaceTime icon is not lit up. Any suggestions?

    There is no facetime icon and never was. Facetime is built into the phone.  Go to settings>general>restrictions and make sure facetime is ON.  Go to settings>facetime and turn it on there and set it up there.  Also read http://support.apple.com/kb/ts4268

  • I switched to singapore on the app store, so now i am trying to get back to the U.S app store and it is saying "You have a store credit balance;you must spend your balance before you can change stores"  I am trying to save money. What do I do???

    I switched to singapore on the app store, so now i am trying to get back to the U.S app store and it is saying "You have a store credit balance;you must spend your balance before you can change stores"  I am trying to save money. What do I do???

    Contact iTunes Support - http://apple.com/emea/support/itunes/contact.html - and ask them to clear your balance.

  • TS4118 Turn off icloud sync for calendars and then in itunes you have the option to sync and it will work.

    Turn off icloud sync for calendars and then in itunes you have the option to sync and it will work.

    So?

  • Would anyone know why some of my downloaded images turn black and green when I tap to look at them?

    Would anyone know why some of my downloaded images turn black and green when I tap to look at them?

    Try the following:
    - A reset. Nothing is lost
    Reset iPod touch: Hold down the On/Off button and the Home button at the same time for at
    least ten seconds, until the Apple logo appears.
    - Restore from backup

  • (when will you have foxfrie for a LG lg800g) in English

    (when will you have foxfrie for a LG lg800g) in English

    From what I found about the LG 800g, it is not even a Android phone.
    https://wiki.mozilla.org/Mobile/Platforms
    Also it is '''Firefox''', not foxfrie.

  • When will you have Docks for iPhone 5's in the UK Store's?

    When will you have Docks for iPhone 5's in the UK Store's?

    We are all iphone users just like you.
    You are not addressing Apple here at all.

Maybe you are looking for

  • Mail not working since iOS 8.2 upgrade

    hi - my Mail has stopped downloading to my iPhone 5 mailbox since I uograded to IOS 8.2. I had a similar issue with 8.02 however that fixed itself after a few days, however whatever I have tried (reinstalling myail account, rebooting the phone) it is

  • Oracle Reports 6i - image do not show on html

    Hi, I am using Oracle Reports 6i, on Windows 2000. I am running the reports from a Java Web application using RWServlet. The reports are just fine if I use PDF as DESFORMAT, but the images are not shown if the DESFORMAT is html. The architecture is w

  • Can PMI be used with non-SAP systems?

    For example we have an interface that travels through several systems and servers before being fed into XI (and back). So far as I know PMI only starts when XI picks up the message. Are there any agents, API's or any method to PMI enable other applic

  • Cannot attach library - 9i web forms on unix

    Hi, I've compiled my forms on the unix server to be deployed using the servlet. However, when I try and run the forms over the web, I get FRM-40039 cannot attach library. Has anybody else encountered this error on 9iAS when trying to deploy web enabl

  • Desperately trying to authorize my computers

    Hello, I'm facing the same problem with both my PCs. Despite authorizing them on the iTunes Store I still get the same message telling me "This PC is no more authorized..." I've been through all the steps described in iTunes repeatedly prompts to aut