Useful life

Hi gurus
when i am creating an asset , useful life of an asset is the compulsory field coming and also it is asking for more than the minimum life specified . i want to remove this requirement . how to do this plz suggest .
thanks

hi
they are already optional .
The error is :
'The useful life 005 is shorter in years than the minimum useful life 020 that is specified for this asset class.'
where to check the specified useful life ?

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Depriciation key and useful life periods in asset master should in display mode only

Hi all
At the time of creation asset master AS01 we are given the Asset class, company code and similar of asset (1) then we click enter button we will get Create asset: master data screen here in general tab we enter the description and in time dependent tab we enter cost center manually
But
When we click on Depreciation tab here the Depreciation key and use life fields are automatically come with Dep.key(ABC) and use life(15) (Because we maintained in OAYZ)
Here user have a chance to change the Dep.key(ABC) and use life(15).so my requirement is these two fields are display with only display mode .
User don’t have chance to modify this.

Hi Anil,
The screen layout for Asset and its depreciation tab are different. You have to make these fields as Display only in the screen layout. This can be done using T-Code AO21. Below are the screenshots for the path and screen layout for your reference. This should solve your issue
Regards
Pankaj Pareek

Change in Useful life of asset in mid year, but the previous posted depreciation should not be changed

Dear Experts,
I have a requirement in one of my client, We need to extend the useful life of asset in mid of an asset fiscal year and the depreciation which was posted in the previous should not be changed.
Requirement:
Useful life of asset is to be extended after completing depreciation for 4 years and in-between the current asset fiscal year. Provided the present asset value has to be taken as the new book value of the asset and the depreciation posted henceforth to be posted based on the new asset value till the remaining useful life.
Previously posted depreciation should be unchanged.
Analysis:
1.      The fiscal Year followed - October to September.
2.      The useful life of asset will be changed, and the depreciated value posted till 31/mar 2014 will have the old depreciation value ( based on the original acquisition value)
3.      The Depreciation key used in of type LINR (linear), depreciation value will be calculated based on the Book value till the asset value becomes ZERO at the end of useful life of the asset.
4.      We can change the useful life of the asset at the end of a Asset fiscal year say FY- 2014, if this is done the existing configuration will take the Book value of the asset at the end of the Fiscal as the asset value and the new depreciation will be calculated based on the new useful life of the asset. The asset value will become ZERO at the end of the newly changed Useful Life.
5.      But the requirement is that the useful life of the asset will be changed exactly half way in between existing Asset fiscal (i.e., 31/03/2014), if this is done system will change the depreciation value based on the new useful life ( since the Dep Key is LINR), but the depreciation value will change from the fiscal start say October 2013 to September 2014 ), which will not satisfy the requirement of the client. Since the depreciation which is already posted from October 2013 to March 2014 should not be changed.
Note:
1. We are not willing to retire the asset and create a new asset with the remaining book value as asset value and start depreciation.
Kindly let me know if the requirement can be fulfilled without retiring the asset.

Dear All,
This requirement has been completed.
1. I created New Multi level valuation method with base 26 ( Net book value w/o Revaluation ).
2. New depreciation key was created and the above method was assigned to it. I never changed the Base method.
3. new interval was created in the depreciation area, with this created dep key and extended the useful life of the asset. The depreciation was calculated according to the requirement.
Originally the asset had useful life of 5 Years, I changed the asset useful life to 8 years now with new Depreciation key 2001.
Depreciation was already posted to the asset till 04- 2013 for an amount of 148.27 SAR.
Net Book value carried forward to 2013 = 1575.56 SAR
Depreciation already posted till 4th period =   148.27 SAR
Current Net book value after useful life extension           = 1427.29 SAR .
Now the new depreciation key 2001 with Multilevel method 201, will take this Net-book value as Asset value and will depreciate along the useful life of the asset till it becomes zero.
Planned depreciation of 2013 ( remaining 6 months) = 166.24 SAR
Planned depreciation of 2014 = 225.96 SAR
Planned depreciation of 2015 = 225.96 SAR
Planned depreciation of 2016 = 225.96 SAR
Planned depreciation of 2017 = 225.96 SAR
Planned depreciation of 2018 = 225.96 SAR
Planned depreciation of 2019 = 131.25 SAR
Total      = 1427.29 SAR ( the Asset value becomes zero at the end of its remaining useful life.
The previously posted depreciation from 01.01.2013 to 30.04.2013 was untouched.

HOW TO CHANGE THE USEFUL LIFE FOR MORE ASSETS AT A TIME FOR ASSET CLASS

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Asset which is under Asset Class Support system-B700. Here every thing is ok but the problem in USE FULL LIFE which is come by default. It must be 4 instead of 5.   So can any body help me out from this how to change the Useful life in that Asset class. In that Asset Class we have the morethan 200 Assets. It was happend in Prdocution system so now the problem is where i can change the useful life for the asset class either in DEV or PRD.
       Also i want to know the information of How these assets are Uploaded into the system (Lsmw or etc). this is very urgent for me.
Thanks in Advance,
Regards,
Siva.

Hi Ashok,
     Can i know the reason how it was happend. i mean instead of 4 years the system showing is 5yesrs any reason is there behind that.
Thanks in Advance.

Useful Life in Dep Key "to the day"

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we have two depreciation areas one for IN gaap and the other for US GAAP. In GAAP has depreciation keys with "to the day" feature and the US GAAP has depreciation keys created with useful life feature.
Now the issue is since useful life has got no role in the case of IN GAAP, whenever we create asset we press enter enter and the same usefule life as per US GAAP get copied in the US GAAP also as it has no relevance for calculation.
The problem is that if i enter only period 1 as useful life for US GAAP( meaning that the asset is to be fully depreciated in one month for US GAAP purpose) and the same period 1 is entered in IN GAAP. then for IN GAAP my full asset is getting depreciated in 6 months wheras the depreciation key assigned to it is 13,91 wdv method( with to the day tick).
I changed the period 1 and made it 999 for IN GAAP purpose and tested it in test system and then system is showing correct values.
Can anyone throw some light on this issue as to why it is changing in case of useful life when the dep to the day is ticked in depreciation key.
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Error while changing useful life

Hi,
I was trying to change the Dep Key to 0000(No depreciation) with useful life of 39. I tried changing the useful life to 1 and 0 and I still could not make the change, I got the red message "Useful life exceeds allowable value". This assets have land lease.
Thank You,
Mark

Hi,
I have checked and their is a Z_lease table which has notice date specified to it. If I change notice date, then I am able to change master data. Now my question is do we need this lease table ? cause this is tied to asset default usefull life during implementation phase. At least tax books should not be tied to this lease table. Is their a process to tie/untie this table?
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Mark

Correcting useful life of an asset in previous year

Hi, We have implemented SAP last year in April at one of our sites. At the time of initial upload of assets, we made a mistake and some of the assets were uploaded with incorrect useful life. Till date every month we were running depreciation based on incorrect useful life. F.Year was closed in Dec 2005. Now auditors have detected this mistake. How do we fix this? Any suggestions...

hi sourabh
u can reset the closed fiscal year through "Asset acountingperiod end closingreverse" using this function u can reopen the fiscal yera either for selected depriciation areas or for all dep.Be careful you should reopen a fiscal year only for certain depreciation areaas, and do adjustment postings in those only. u cannot use standard transaction types post to all depriciation areas. u have to define ur own transaction types.
Change the field in asset master in last closed fiscal year. And start the depriciation program run in repeat run mode

Calculation of Depreciation based on Remianing Useful Life

Hi
I have a scenario in which depreciation percentage should be derived based on remaining useful life and it should remain same through out the remaining useful life.
For eg,
Take over date = 30.11.2010
Acquisition Date= 01.04.2009
Acquisition Amount = INR 200000
Depreciation Till 30.11.2010 = 70000 INR
Net Book Value as of 30.11.2010 = INR 130000
Total Useful Life = 4 Years or 48 months
Expired Useful Life = 1 year 9 months or 21 months
Remaining useful life = 27 months
Required Depreciation Per Month = 130000/27=4815
Derived Percentage = 4815/130000*100=3.71%
I have created a Base Method for calculation for Depreciation with Depreciation Method as "% from Remaining Life calculated from Depreciation Conversion Date". In Multilevel methods, I have assigned the Base Method as 24, Net Book Value
and maintained the check box for Remaining useful life.
However, the system is not calculating the rate as expected.
Regards
Sanil Bhandari

Hi Sanil
Have you done any settings in OAYF - recalculate dep for previous years (IMG> AA > Asset Data Transfer > Parameters for Data Transfer > Options)
For current year, it always does produce some difference due to rounding off, which should not be a big amount
Ajay M

New Depreciation to start from Mar (not Jan) after change of useful life

Hi
Does anyoe has any solution or will there be changes to SAP B1's Fixed Asset?
Let me explain the full scenario as below:
1) Customer has Fixed Assest which has useful life of 25 years, i.e. 300 months.
2) The assets has been depreciated for a few months, e.g from July 2008 to Mar 2009. In FA Master Data, it shows the remaining useful life is 294.
3) From Mar 2009 onwards, the management decides that the userful life is to be 30 instead of 25. The past depreciated value is to remain. The new depreciated value is to be effective from Mar 2009 onwards.
Changes Done
1) In Fixed Asset Master file, under the General tab, a change has been made to the Useful life from 300 to 360. The remaining life is auto-change to 354.
2) Re-run the depreciation for Mar 2009.
3) The new depreciated value is re-calculated from Jan 2009 onwards and the adjustment is posted in Mar 2009.
What is required is that Jan 2009 to Feb 2009 should remain the original depreciated value. The new depreciated value should be adjusted from Mar 2009 onwards.
Please advise is there any solution or proposals.
Example
Asset value = 518749.95
Useful life = 300
Remaining Useful life = 294
Monthly Planned Depreciated Value = 1729.17, Dec Planned Depreciated value = 1729.13
After Changes Done
Asset value = 250000
Useful life = 360
Remaining Useful life = 354
Monthly Planned Depreciated Value = 1436.09, Dec Planned Depreciated value = 1436.06
Required
Asset value = 250000
Useful life = 360
Remaining Useful life = 354
Jan and Feb Planned Depreciated Value = 1729.17
Mar 2009 onwards, Planned Depreciated Value = 1404.95
Calculation = (518749.95 - 20750 - 3458.34)/352
where 20750 is the depreciated value for 2008 and 3458.34 is the depreciated value for Jan and Feb 2009.
Thanks
Siew Yuen

Hi Yatsea
Let me explain the full scenario as below:
1) Customer has Fixed Assest which has useful life of 25 years, i.e. 300 months.
2) The assets has been depreciated for a few months, e.g from July 2008 to Mar 2009. In FA Master Data, it shows the remaining useful life is 294.
3) From Mar 2009 onwards, the management decides that the userful life is to be 30 instead of 25. The past depreciated value is to remain. The new depreciated value is to be effective from Mar 2009 onwards.
Changes Done
1) In Fixed Asset Master file, under the General tab, a change has been made to the Useful life from 300 to 360. The remaining life is auto-change to 354.
2) Re-run the depreciation for Mar 2009.
3) The new depreciated value is re-calculated from Jan 2009 onwards and the adjustment is posted in Mar 2009.
What is required is that Jan 2009 to Feb 2009 should remain the original depreciated value. The new depreciated value should be adjusted from Mar 2009 onwards.
Please advise is there any solution or proposals.
Example
Asset value = 518749.95
Useful life = 300
Remaining Useful life = 294
Monthly Planned Depreciated Value = 1729.17, Dec Planned Depreciated value = 1729.13
After Changes Done
Asset value = 250000
Useful life = 360
Remaining Useful life = 354
Monthly Planned Depreciated Value = 1436.09, Dec Planned Depreciated value = 1436.06
Required
Asset value = 250000
Useful life = 360
Remaining Useful life = 354
Jan and Feb Planned Depreciated Value = 1729.17
Mar 2009 onwards, Planned Depreciated Value = 1404.95
Calculation = (518749.95 - 20750 - 3458.34)/352
where 20750 is the depreciated value for 2008 and 3458.34 is the depreciated value for Jan and Feb 2009.
Thanks
Siew Yuen

Useful Life in Asset Master

Hello
We have created one fixed asset with a capitalization date as 20.10.2004.
In the Depreciation Areas, we have given the Depreciation Starting Date as "01.01.2008"
and rate of Depreciation is 16.21%
userful life maintained in the master data is 5 Years
Total Asset Acquistion value is 85.04$. System calculated the depreciation till 20.10.2009 from 01.01.2008 @ 16.21%. After that, the system is not calculated the depreciation from 21.10.2009.
Based on the above points, our understandings are as follows:
(a) System considered the capitlization date + useful life period for depreciation calculation. Hence no planned depreciation is appearing in AW01N from 21.10.2009
(b) System considered the rate of depreciation based on depreciation key (16.21%) even thou, the useful life is maintained as 5 years
Does my observations are correct ? please comment
Besides, we need the following suggestions from you
Does it possible to increase the useful life in the fixed asset master (since, the life period is not expired and finance wants to consider the depreciation amount from 20.10.2009 onwards till the asset exprie)
If yes, what is the step by step procedure to carry such changes ?
Kindly revert
Regards
Anilkumar

youare saying corret But you should be follow some rules for calucation of deprecation
System considered the capitalization date + useful life period for depreciation calculation not only this
the system should be consideration the depreciation key , useful life , periods , ordinary depreciation for calculation depreciation and in depreciation areas tab in asset master we have to maintain like 1depreciation key 2.useful life 3.periods 4. ordinary depreciation start .if we give ordinary depreciation start date 21.10.2009 system will be calculated depreciation 21.10.2009 onwards. then only system can run depreciation plan wise in AW01N .
first we give the ordinary depreciation start date in depreciation area tab in asset master .system automatically will calculate depreciation from these date on words.
here Depreciation key determines for calculating the depreciation amount which controls the base method , period control method ,multiple method , decline balance method.
which is possible to increase the useful life in asset master and also we can run depreciation from 20.10.2009 onwards till expire asset
for this configuration
1.Go for AFAMS multiple method and give the parameters such as acciquistion year , periods
2.we have to activate depreciation key in AFAMA
3.in as02 in depreciation area tab here we have to give the depreciation key , useful life , periods , ordinary depreciation start date
I hope this is very useful
With regards /G chandrababu
Edited by: chandra babu on Dec 29, 2009 10:33 AM

Asset master data no "Expired useful life".

Hi expert.
Today our user tell me ,system need her that to enter the filed (ANLC-NDABJ/NDABP) of * expired useful life in year /period * in depreciation area tab . otherwise not allow to save the data.
And i found, all of asset capitalized period on 2011.12 and the start depreciation period on :2012.01 ,the Expired useful life year/period is null and requirement to input the value.
when we enrty the expired useful period.
Expired useful life 000 000 calculated by system (Check)
Message no. AA910
My question:
What's reason and how to fix it ?
Thanks,
Regards,Alex

Hi,
Usually Expired life will be displayed in Asset master once the acquisition. If your capitalization date is in the previous fiscal year (in your case: 2011.12) and in the next period you will able to see asset expired period as 01 period(assume next fiscal year is starting from 2012-01).
I guess you should maintain your capitalization and ordinary depreciation date one and the same

Changing useful life of assets during asset to asset transfer

Hi All,
We need to transfer some assets to new assets changing its useful life. Below is my scenario.
Old Asset "A" has an useful life of 5 years and depreciation start date is 01.01.2006. Where this asset would be fully depreciated by the end of year 2011. The depreciation runs have been completed for November 2009.
Before using transaction ABUMN, I created a new asset "B" in a different asset class with the exact details of the old asset ONLY changing the useful life to 3 Years. (even the dep start date is 01.01.2006 - same as the old asset)
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But this is not happenning. The entire depreciation is not been shown under plannned values for DEC 2009. Only a small value is shown. I need this asset to be fully depreciated by 31.12.2009 in variably absorbing the enire balance depreciation for the month of Dec 2009.
Please help me resolve this asap or please suggest me a different way of doing this if I am not doing it the right way.
Thanks & Regards,
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Hi Kishore,
I need to change the asset class as well and thats why I need to to do the asset to asset transfer.
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Wrong depreciation calcualtion when we change useful life of an asset

Hi,
We change the useful life of an asset during the middle of the year. The deprecaiton calculation is not effecting correctly for the remaining useful life of an asset.
We are using stright line method of depreciaion. I will appreciate if any post some tips what is wrong .
Example:
Current State:
Acquisition value: 300,000
Acquisition date: 1/1/08
Useful life: 3 years
NBV 12/31/08: 200,000
NBV 6/30/09: 150,000
New life: 2 years, starting 7/1/2009
Current methodology:
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Monthly Depreciation expense between 8/31/09-12/31/09: $16,667 / month
Future State:
Requested methodology:
NBV at 6/30/09 divided by remaining life as of the date of the change: (150,000/6mos) $25,000
Can any one explain what is the issue

Hi,
By default, any change in depreciation parameters will recalculate depreciation from the beginning. If you want to change depreciation terms on different phases, you may need to introduce a depreciation key which changes percentage in multi-level method.
Best Regards,
Madhu

Changing useful life of an asset

Hi All,
Client wants to change the asset's useful life from 4 years to 3 years. Also previous depreciations should not get affected due to this. The new recalculated value of the asset should be spread over the remaining useful life and depreciation amount should also be recalculated accordingly. Do we have such functionality in SAP version ECC4.6?? or we need to post the depreciation manually going forward?? I have tried smoothing method but this is also not helping me out.
Please advice if we can do something in it.
Many Thanks,
Parul

Hello Parul
Sorry but this functionality is only available as of release 6.0 if you have the
new depreciation engine activated. Note 965032 will provide you more details. In
particular section 4. c) Managing time-dependent depreciation parameters:
With the new depreciation calculation, you now have the option to
change depreciation terms during the fiscal year. This means that
the changed parameters are included in the calculation always
from the period for which the period is also valid.
The following depreciation terms can be maintained   time-dependently on the   fixed asset:
- Depreciation Keys
- Useful life
- scrap value/scrap value percentage rate
- variable depreciation portion
Regards
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Changing useful life an asset and its impacts

Hi Gurus,
if we change the useful life of an asset, what are the steps do we follow ? do we need to post the write up first and then change the useful life ? can you detailed the steps and impacts on this change with exapmles.. pl
Venkat Rajesh Kumar

Hello Parul
Sorry but this functionality is only available as of release 6.0 if you have the
new depreciation engine activated. Note 965032 will provide you more details. In
particular section 4. c) Managing time-dependent depreciation parameters:
With the new depreciation calculation, you now have the option to
change depreciation terms during the fiscal year. This means that
the changed parameters are included in the calculation always
from the period for which the period is also valid.
The following depreciation terms can be maintained   time-dependently on the   fixed asset:
- Depreciation Keys
- Useful life
- scrap value/scrap value percentage rate
- variable depreciation portion
Regards
Javier

Change the useful life of an asset

Hi everyone,
I'm using Oracle 11i Asset module. currently I have an asset whose useful life is 4 years. But we realise that this asset can only last for 3.5 years (3 years and 6 months).
I tried to go into the Book of this asset and changed the life to 3.5 years. The system allows me to change the life year from 4 to 3 years but when want to change the life months from 0 to 6 months, the system doesn't allow.
Can anyone of you help me?
Thanks in advance

Please check the Depreciation method setup.
(Navigation: Setup-->Depreciation-->Methods)
There should be an entry for life in years=3 and life in months=6 for that depreciation method.
If it is not there, then system will not allow you to change the asset life.
You need to make an entry in the depreciation methods screen (Navigation: Setup-->Depreciation-->Methods) before trying to change the asset life.
Let me know if this helps.
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