Useing my Sawtooth on a TV

Hi,all.New here,and new to Sawtooth's. I just bought my first one(400mhz,DVD,120 gb hard drive,256mb ram[for now]),and was wondering if there was a video card that would allow me to hook it up to my HDTV.I have s-video,composite and HDMI inputs.Thanks ahead of time for the help!!

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My flashed Radeon 9700 card has a socket at the back which connects to a composite cable. Saying this I have never used it so I am unsure of the quality.

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Robert Mortensen
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Sawtooth_(with_input).vi ‏105 KB
Sawtooth_(wo_input).vi ‏57 KB

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SadieLovatt wrote:
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