Useless adjustment brush in LR2 on Vista

Does anyone have a solution as to why the adjustment brush just plainly does not work right in Vista? I have repaired the program, reinstalled the program, all to no avail. Very frustrated at this point. All the other features do seem to work correctly, but this is driving me nuts. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. (I expected more from Adobe than this) Thanks

The adjustment brush is slow and sluggish for a lot of users--the forum is full of such posts.
Does it work well--yes, on some systems. It was absolutely pitless for me, UNTIL I moved LR to our fastest machine, an Intel 9550, 4gigs Ram,1300 FSB,Sata 2 and Firewire 800 drives with an Nvidia 8600GT set to maximize performance and minimize quality in the 3D section of the Nvidia control panel.
I should add that this is on a machine used for productivity only--no games, no internet,cache and VM on separate physical drives, LR2 on non boot drive.
It took a lot of tweaking and experimentation to get to the point where it will smoke! I could not get the brush to work real time without lag and sluggish sliders on any of my other machines--largely, in retrospect, I think because they had Video cards that did not allow setting the card to high performance as opposed to high quality.
My view is that the real culprit is to be found in the Display Card settings on most machines. LR2 was fast on this high end machine, but the brush was sluggish until I followed a suggestion in a recent thread on Nvidia card solutions and set it to maximize performance instead of quality and saved that as an Nvidia preset for LR.
I suggest you look at your display card control for a possible solution. Take a look at this thread:
http://www.adobeforums.com/webx/.59b65d9c/30
The larger question is a technical one perhaps Eric can answer: is there any way to write code to overcome this Video card interaction problem--Nvidia cards are ubiquitous. At the least Adobe could issue a possible warning that a potential problem exists.

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Adjustment brushes just plain stinks....

Really disappointed in both CR and LR2 as the adjustment brush is unusable.
If I open a raw image in Photoshop CS4 and try to use the adjustment brush it consistently crashes PS.
If I use the adjustment brush in LR2 after a couple of strokes the program grinds to a crawl and then will quit all together. I have to reboot the system after one these sessions.
Great idea just too bad it is so lousy.
Really disappointed in the quality of these releases. Spent alot of time with tech support and after about an hour of trouble shooting the tech comes back and tells me it's a bug they know about and will be fixed with next release. It wasn't fixed with LR 2.2.....maybe he meant ver.3

>This issue related to Lr2.0 and 2.1, it was fixed in Lr 2.2
Wish you were 100% correct but alas not so for me and apparently others. Please read my latest post (#34) here for some helpful details:
http://www.adobeforums.com/webx/.59b74b5a/33
While my machine may be considered "dated" and perhaps mocked by some, it was considered a hot (Asus) board in it's day with Intel 875 chipset, 3.0 Ghz Intel processor, Asus (NVidia) N6800 video card w/512 MB RAM, Promise RAID for both IDE and SATA, 3 GB RAM, etc., etc. running on Win XP Pro SP3. Built her myself and saved big $$.
>The fact that the OP is having Camera Raw crash Photoshop is a REAL GOOD indication his computer has some serious problems
Maybe, but this issue is clearly an Adobe problem (Windows for sure)and is complicated by the many software/hardware factors, as well. Simply blaming one's hardware doesn't help solve the problem any more than someone ranting about Adobe's alleged incompetence. As you can see from my above referenced post, there is an issue with ACR (and CS4) albeit a relatively minor one (for me) involving a bit o' lag. Strangely enough, the ol' box seems to outperform many newer multi cores for some reason (Vista?) and overall I'm very happy with ACR and CS4 (next machine will likely be a Mac, though). LR needs more help if I'm to keep it beyond the trial period. Too bad, 30% off with free shipping from Adobe seemed to be a pretty good deal.

Adjustment Brush Weirdness in LR2

I'm making pretty liberal use of the adjustment brush in a series of photos in LR2, and I'm getting the weirdest thing: as I leaf through my gallery and make these adjustments, then go back and view previously adjusted images, I'm getting a whole lot of retouched areas showing up in images THAT I DID NOT PUT THERE. This is the weirdest thing. The Adjustment brush mask shows lots of random spots where it looks like the adjustment brush has been used, but I didn't put them there. And they keep showing up in different images. It's getting kind of ridiculous because they keep showing up in random images without my putting them there, and it's wasting a lot of my time. Has anybody experienced this?

Two possibilites for this happening. The first is that you haved had multiple images selected and applied the Sync Settings command. Alternatively, you have had multiple images selected and Auto Sync enabled while applying the brush with th result that every selected image will have the brush adjustment applied. I suggest you select a few images in Develop module then go to the two buttons located at the bottom of the Develop adjustments panel. If the left button is set to Auto Sync then this is very likley the source of your problem. I suggest that you switch it off to avoid the problem reoccuring. With Lr2 you need to hold down the Ctrl/Cmd key while clicking on the button

LR2 Adjustment Brush on a tif?

I open a raw file in LR2, then use the Open in PS CS3 command to apply a plug in filter that is only usable in PS (here, Alien Skin Exposure 2), then save it as a tif, then re-open it in LR2.....can I then use the adjustment brush to further work on it?
I don't seem to be able to.
TIA.

Found the problem.
The Adjustment Brush in Lightroom 2.1 RC does not work on a GS image when the Auto Mask is enabled.
Here is the procedure to verify this behavior:
1. With image selected in Lightroom's Develop Module choose Photo > Edit in > Edit in Photoshop CS3 (default settings 8-bit etc.)
2. In Photoshop convert the image to grayscale. Choose Image > Mode > Grayscale. When asked about discarding color information say yes.
3. Save the file (I saved as an 8-bit TIFF)
4. In LR 2.1 select the Adjustment Brush with Feather and Flow at 50 and Density at 90 and Auto Mask enabled. Use Exposure Effect with the slider set to -4.00.
5. Paint several stokes on the image. The Adjustment Pin appears but no effect is applied and no mask appears even if the 'o' key is used.
6. Click the Auto Mask checkbox to disable Auto Mask and paint in another part of the photo.
7. The Effect and its mask now appear where the second set of strokes are applied but the brushstrokes made with the Auto Mask set are still not there.
It isn't a Silver Efex Pro problem because it also occurs when an ordinary image is converted to GS by PS CS3.
Something in Auto Mask prevents it from working on a GS Image.
This problem should occur with any image but for the record the original file I used was a Nikon raw file (NEF).
Workaround: Until Adobe fixes this problem you cannot use the Adjustment Brush with Auto Mask enabled.

Adjustment Brush Problem in LR2.1

When I try to use the adjustment brush for any type of adjustment, all I get is a darkening overlay on my photo, as though I was drawing some kind of dirty grey quick mask. EG: soften skin - no change to the skin just a semi-transparent grey where I have brushed.
I am pretty new to using this brush, but I am pretty sure I have used it before without a problem. Have I changed some setting? I can use all the adjustments globally but cannot apply them with the brush.

Robbie,
Hit the "O" key to turn the overlay off and on. Shift+O toggles between available overlay colors.
Rich

LR2 Adjustment Brush not working?

I just got Lightroom 2 and have tried over and over to use the adjustment brush, but I haven't seen ANY results. A black circle with silver lining shows up where I click the picture with the brush. I have heard that clicking "O" makes the adjustment show up, but I've tried it and nothing happens. So, help! Am I missing a simple step or something??

Hi Emily,
One of the mask overlays that you get when pressing 'O' and shift + 'O' is clear and makes it impossible to see the results.
Press O to make the mask active and then press Shift O a few times to cycle through the masks.
If you put the exposure at -2 you should see the area darkening as you brush.

LR2.7, cannot use the Adjustment Brush

I choose a photo, select Develop module and choose the Adjustment brush. Then select +2 exposure but in only see the Hand/Zoom tools when I move the mouse over the image. How do I get the brush tool to display?

The red is a mask so you can see where you have brushed
To turn it on and off, Press the letter O

A set of configurable adjustment brushes

I would like to have a set of 6 adjustment brushes that I could configure individually then assign it to one of the 6 brushes in the set on the tool bar.

>This issue related to Lr2.0 and 2.1, it was fixed in Lr 2.2
Wish you were 100% correct but alas not so for me and apparently others. Please read my latest post (#34) here for some helpful details:
http://www.adobeforums.com/webx/.59b74b5a/33
While my machine may be considered "dated" and perhaps mocked by some, it was considered a hot (Asus) board in it's day with Intel 875 chipset, 3.0 Ghz Intel processor, Asus (NVidia) N6800 video card w/512 MB RAM, Promise RAID for both IDE and SATA, 3 GB RAM, etc., etc. running on Win XP Pro SP3. Built her myself and saved big $$.
>The fact that the OP is having Camera Raw crash Photoshop is a REAL GOOD indication his computer has some serious problems
Maybe, but this issue is clearly an Adobe problem (Windows for sure)and is complicated by the many software/hardware factors, as well. Simply blaming one's hardware doesn't help solve the problem any more than someone ranting about Adobe's alleged incompetence. As you can see from my above referenced post, there is an issue with ACR (and CS4) albeit a relatively minor one (for me) involving a bit o' lag. Strangely enough, the ol' box seems to outperform many newer multi cores for some reason (Vista?) and overall I'm very happy with ACR and CS4 (next machine will likely be a Mac, though). LR needs more help if I'm to keep it beyond the trial period. Too bad, 30% off with free shipping from Adobe seemed to be a pretty good deal.

Another CS4 user with a slow adjustment brush

New to CS4 and loving the idea of the adjustment brush and grad filter in ACR. However - and this is a big however - their incredibly slow speeds renders them next-to-useless for me. Gee whiz, how much processing speed do I need? I have Mac OS 10.4.11, 2.3 GHz w/ 4GB DDR2 SDRAM. This was more than adequate until now. Am I doing something wrong? Would it run faster if I converted from CR2 to DNG? I noticed that a lot of other people have this problem but I didn't come across any solutions offered up in the forums. They weren't running slow in the videos I watched on lynda.com.
Phil

This is not directly related, but I used to notice serious slow downs when using brush adjustments in Lightroom 2.4. I was on a PC with 2GB DDR1 RAM running Vista. I have several fast IDE hard disks in my system dividing OS/Data/Page file roles. I'm not sure what Lightroom uses for paging/swaping memory, but I don't think it's anything like Photoshop (you don't get to specify scratch file locations). I normally edit 15 Megapixel files and the brush local adjustments tool can get very slow and elastic in its response when I do a lot of fine brush additions. What I could notice is that Lightroom was taking up a lot of RAM at that point. I upgraded my DDR1 system to 3GB and the situation has improved but it was still easy to reach a point where it would slow down again as soon as the number of brush strokes mounted (Lightroom would be eating up approx 1.9GB RAM at that stage).
You mention that you have DDR2 on your system so I'm guessing you have the Power Mac that takes up to 16GB (8 slots x 2GB). I've no experience whatsoever with Mac OS, but if the OS+Program have no limitations in addressing RAM memory (Windows 32bit OS can see a maximum of 3.2GB RAM), then perhaps investing in additional RAM is not a bad idea. An extra 4GB DDR2 is affordable (unless you're restricted to using specific type of memory modules, I have no clue really), and is far faster than any hard disk swap/scratch file. Of course, that is assuming that the bottleneck is indeed the RAM memory.

2.1 RC - Adjustment Brush Bug Persists

While the adjustment brush seem a bit more responsive under 2.1, I regret to report that the brush continues to apply adjustments even after I have released the left mouse button. This usually happens when I'm trying to refine the edge created by my initial selection. I've submitted a bug report to this effect.
As stated in my earlier posts, I'm running LR2.1 on a Vista Home Premium system with adequate processing power for PS CS3, 4 gigs of RAM, and plenty of HD space.
Adam

I read the release notes. They specifically said they fixed a couple of problems in the local correction area and went on to say:
>"We are still working on additional methods to improve the performance of the new Localized Correction features."
which indicates to me that they attempted to address some issues but as they did not say what issues were addressed or to what degree wouldn't it be prudent for us to keep reporting all problems that we have with LR2.1RC?
The specific issue reported in this thread may or may not have anything to do with 'performance' but it certainly has to do with the mouse--the mouse up is apparently not acknowledged until about the time the history list is updated so any brush movements between mouse up and the history updating are counted as edits. That is a definite bug and to quote Jeff in another thread about a different bug:
>Jeff Schewe:"...again you have to understand that MORE bug reports is more better...the more people wh report this as a problem the higher priority it will get. So, vote early, vote often..."
and since the LR2.1RC web site also said:
>"If you do experience an issue with this release candidate please report it to the Lightroom User to User forum."
where the phrase "User to User forum" is a link to this forum I would think the 'voting' should be done on this forum.

Local Adjustment Brush does not work in Windows 7, 64-bit

All other tools and functions work OK. My issue is just with the Adjustment Brush; The Adjustment Panel opens when the brush is selected and the brush moves, but none of the adjustments are applied to the image. The problem is clearly related to the new operating system. This was just confirmed, by removing the hard drive with the Windows 7, 64-bit OS, and inserting an old hard drive with Windows Vista, 32-bit installed. The adjustment brush works fine with the old OS and the same version of PS.
My normal monitor resolution is 1920 x 1200 with a DPI of 151; however, this DPI is not compatible with PS, so I reset it to 149 evey time I use PS. Lower screen resolutions and DPI settings don't resolve the problem. I mention this only because of a previous cursor problem that was resolved by changing the DPI.
I'm using CS4 with Camera Raw version 5.6. Version 5.5 also does not work.
Can anyone offer suggestions?

Problem solved. One of the recent upgrades to Camera Raw reset the flow rate to zero, which I did not notice until after posting the message.
Sorry for the error.

Adjustment brush sometimes gives blotchy results

I noticed this during the public beta of Lightroom 2 but figured either it was me or they'd fix it in the public release. Well, today I see the "problem" if it is a problem is still there, so perhaps it's me, in which case I'd be grateful for some help.
Here's the problem: The localized adjustment brush produces great results sometimes, and at other times, the results are so bad that I have no choice but to delete the mask and give up.
Hard to provide verbal examples, but I'll try to suggest what I see.
I have a photo that shows a couple of people water skiing on a lake. Photo was taken from the tow boat. Sun was a little behind the two skiers so their faces are somewhat in the shadows. I used the brush to increase exposure of their faces and the results were quite satisfactory. But when I tried to use a new brush to increase the exposure of the stand of trees and houses on the distant shore, the results were awful, especially when I zoomed in. The exposure was increased but there were ugly splotches of pixels throughout the masked area. And while there had been a wee bit of chromatic aberration visible in the line where the tree tops met the distant sky, after the brush was applied (with auto-mask ON), it was MUCH much worse.
Are there some guidelines about when the brush is a good idea and when it's not? Am I doing something wrong?
Thanks in advance,
Will

Joe Klien,
You obviously haven't worked with NX2 enough to even make a judgment on its advanced local corrections through a set of u_point tools, including a selection u-point, gradient, paintbrush, region mask defining tools, etc, in addition to the color u_points, all of which are certainly more flexible and faster with respect to workflow speed than the present basic paintbrush and gradient in LR2. LR is just getting into the non destructive local corrections area, so I'm sure LR3 will provide more advanced tools.
LR2 does run circles around NX2 in some respects, batch processing for example,just not at NEF conversion and editing, and LR2 is a cataloging program, whereas NX2 is browser based and strictly a NEF Raw processor--although it will do jpegs and tifs as well. NX2 is a specialized toolset designed to maximize the use of Nikon proprietary camera information and to edit its images. ( And, it finally has speed comparable to its competitors.)
Don't take my word for it, go to Moose Petersen's site and watch how a very well known pro uses NX2. He will give you a brief introduction to how quickly you can work with NX2 with a couple of basic uses. Watch his videos on NX2 at the bottom of the page.
By the way NX2 is completely non destructive editing, as it has been for years. It writes its metadata and changes back to the original NEF, which obviates the need for sidecars or DNG conversion. Here is a link for your convenience:
http://www.moosepeterson.com/D3/media_center.html#

No pin shows up with adjustment brush

Using the adjustment brush, a pin is supposed to appear where you make your initial brush stroke. It doesn't show up, even though the effects of the tool are there. I only know what is painted by typing "O" so that the red coloring shows up. The pin does show up using the Graduated filter.
LR2 trial version, Windows XP SP2, 3 MB RAM, 1.8 GHz duo core,

Hit "H".

Help with Adjustment brush

Hi All,
I have upgraded LR2 to 2.1. Now I can't use the adjustment brush. When i click on the photo to make an adjustment - nothing happens; not white dot, no change, no nothing. HELP! What am I doing wrong? The gradient filter works just fine.
Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Al

Albert - if you haven't already, after clicking on the brush tick the small box underneath it to open a drop-down list. At the bottom of this list is another box alongside the word 'Colour' (or color if you're American :-) ). Click or double click on this box to bring up the colour pallet and using the ey-dropper pick a crazy colour such as a deep red. Now try painting with the bush. If you didn't notice the effects before it may be because the chosen colour was way at the bottom of the colour pallet giving you a neutral grey (gray) which is sometimes hard to spot.

Slow adjustment brush

I have installed the trail version of the lightroom 2.0 and updated the software to 2.1, Im running x64 bit of vista. I have problem with that when using the adjustment brush the processor time is spiking from 50% to 80% and I get a delay in response when drawing. Tested on low end machine and at work I dont have this problem? Is this graphic card related or processor memory?

>I would like to hear from Adobe how the 3D settings on a card affects a 2D app that doesn't have Direct X or OpenGL specifications.
Actually, I would like to hear from NVIDIA on this matter. And also why, apparently, nView has such a negative affect on Lr. A brief visit to the NVIDIA forums reveal not a single mention of these problems.
Curiously, when I installed the latest NVIDIA drivers it came with preset 3D settings for Photoshop CS4 (which I do not yet have installed). It seems Adobe and NVIDIA are working closely together (http://www.nvidia.com/object/adobe.html). Perhaps we can gently ask for similar Lr settings (assuming 3D settings would make any difference).

Useless adjustment brush in LR2 on Vista

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