Using a 16bit Image in Illustrator poster

I'm making a poster and am used to using 8bit images. The photographer I'm working with insists on using a 16 or 32bit version of his photo in the poster I'm designing. I'm used to laying out designs in Illustrator and then linking a .psd, but since Illus only accepts 8bit images -- is this a job for InDesign? I'm wondering how other designers approach this... what's the workflow for say a higher end production shop?
If the photo is larger than 300dpi, is 16bit really necessary? I'm assuming that it couldn't hurt and that someone may direct me to a conversation on bit depth, but sheesh -- it takes forever to save 16bit .psd's!

Wade_Zimmerman wrote:
If that is what you think about the monitor then how would it all of a sudden make a difference in 32 bit since the monitor is still 8 bit. It is not rational....
All of a sudden after doing what? If you convert to a higher bit depth you will see no difference.
The gradient appears different because of 3 things:
1. 32bit works in a linear color space, it doesn't have the usual 2.2 gamma correction needed for 8 and 16 bit integer  files and the color spaces of monitor displays.
2. Photoshop displays 32 bit images in a special linear version of the current color space and to compensate is applying a display gamma correction of 2.2
3. The Gradient tool is designed for non-linear color space
If you want to make the appearance of the gradient the same you have to apply a gamma correction opposite of 2.2 which is 4.4545 by using Image > Adjustment  > Exposure. You can achieve the same for the gradient image if when converting it to lower bit, in the HDR Toning dialog, you choose for method, Exposure and Gamma, and for gamma enter 2.2. You should have also used the same method for you image example if you want it to remain with the same appearance but don't change the gamma.
Anyway, the purpose of my example was not to achieve the same or certain gradient look like the one in a non-linear color space, or to explain you all this above, but to demonstrate that 32 bit images are indestructible, At anytime during a workflow in a pipeline using multiple programs and image editors, 32 bit images can be altered freely without destroying the details in the highlights and the shadows and can be always re-balanced by choosing which detail range and in what degree will be displayed when converted to 8 bit, by simply referring to the 8 bit monitor and making it look good on it.

Similar Messages

  • I recently upgraded my Mac to Yosemite and I can't use the custom function (grayed out) in Image Trace Illustrator CS6 (physical version). Anyone else having this issue?

    I recently upgraded my Mac to Yosemite and I can't use the custom function (grayed out) in Image Trace Illustrator CS6 (physical version). Anyone else having this issue?

    Custom will show automatically as soon as you just edit some options. So just go ahead, you don't need to select "custom"

  • Choppy Blocky Images in Illustrator - HELP

    When I open a high resolution image in Ai they look somewhat distorted and choppy. They are jpeg files that I am placing in order to envelope distort onto a mesh. For some reason any bitmap image I open with Ai looks like this. However, when I open the same image with Acrobat Pro or Ps the image looks perfect. Images are RGB in both apps.
                 Image in Ps or Acrobat                                                Image in Illustrator
    There most be something in Illustrator that is causing this. Images are being embedded and cannot be linked since they need to be distorted. I am runnung CS6 on Intel iMac Maveriks
    If anyone can help I would be truly greatful!
    Thanks in advance    

    Illustrator does not have as accurate a preview for bitmapped graphics. Usually the image jsut looks softer. Is the image scaled a large amount?
    I suggest you print this, or do a save for web and view at 100% in photoshop.
    I see your images are screenshot, cold you post the oriignal image, and tell us if the image looks bad prior to embedding & envelope distorting. You can also envelope distort or warp in photoshop, which I would recomend, unless you absolutley need to use make with top object.

  • Best file for importing images from Illustrator and Photoshop for small file sizes

    Hello Adode consults!
    I'm in the process of preparing an inDesign file for a school project -- I've already had a few harrowing experiences sending large files to the printer that are too large to process (and a very grumpy computer, etc). The end result will be a poster around 36 inches by 4 or 5 feet.
    I'm wondering if there are any best practices for making sure that the files imported into InDesign are a manageable size to begin with. Should I, for instance, be saving each file as a jpeg before placing in Indesign?
    Thanks!
    -Katherine

    No, you should not save every file as JPG before placing it in INDesign. JPG is only usefull for raster images (like photos) without any transparency in high quality.
    When you place images use:
    For raster images from Photoshop psd (rgb with color profile)
    For raster images from Photoshop with form layers, texts or any vector element use PDF (or PDP) with layers.
    For vector graphics from Illustrator use AI files or PDF.
    For layouts from other InDesign projects use either the INDD itsself or export a PDF/X4.
    But to the printer deliver a PDF according to their standards. E.g. when they need CMYK files export as PDF/X1a with the required output color space and the resolution they want. Produce the pdf via Export (Print).
    Don't deliver open INDD. File size should for printing projects not be an issue.

  • Images from Illustrator to DW don't show

    I resisted moving away from CS2 and GoLive for a long time, but finally threw in the towel and recently bought CS4 web premium.  GoLive was like your favorite pair of old jeans you wore on a Saturday morning [sigh]..  Anyway.
    Photoshop was always my preferred application for creating images for use on my web sites I suppose since I was too lazy to learn Illustrator.  Thought I should actually use Illustrator and I watched hours of lynda.com training (and DW training.)  I'm still taking baby steps with both, but I am tenacious and will learn both.
    I worked up a a banner image for a web site overhaul I'm doing in Illustrator and saved it 'For web' as a gif, then as a jpeg.  Inserted the image into DW (as a gif, then as a jpeg) and then to my astonshment I could not view the page's image in Live View or in a browser.  I tried an old image I had laying around and it worked so there is something I'm not doing right I suppose in Illustrator.  I can preview the image in Illustrator in the save for web dialog box and it displays okay on a browser page.
    I've tried to rasterize it, import it into Photoshop and then save for web, and nothing works for me to have it display in a DW page.  Frankly I'm not sure if this is an Illustrator issue, a DW issue, a problem between the seat and the keyboard, or what.  I'm not even sure if the DW community will claim this as a DW problem but I thought I would start here first.
    Many thanks from a GoLive refugee

    Thanks guys for jumping in to help ...
    Yup - good-to-go on defining a site, images directory and all that stuff.  I am creating an RGB image at 72 ppi in Illustrator.  Forgot about Export in Illustrator, tried exporting as a PSD, opening up in Photoshop and then saving as a gif, then inserting into the DW page.  Still couldn't see the image
    Then I created a simple graphic in Photoshop, saved as a gif in the images directory of my site, inserted it in the page I have been working with and it worked as expected.  This is weirding me out.
    Apparently there is no issue with DW, but something I don't understand about Illustrator.  I'll mess around some more and maybe post on the Illustrator forum.  Don't know if my platform is relevant or not but I'm running W7 Professional 64 bit.
    When I get this issue worked out, I'm sure I'll be back with some DW questions as I get more into my site creation.
    Regards - John
    PS - I have Fireworks, so maybe I'll see what that can do for me for graphics...

  • What is the best way to turn line art into a 3D image in Illustrator? Thanks for your help.

    What is the best way to turn line art into a 3D image in Illustrator? Thanks for your help.

    What version of Illustrator? What do you mean by "Line Art"? What do you mean by "3d image"? Post images showing your starting artwork and an example of what you are trying to achieve.
    If you have Illustrator 12 or higher you can extrude or lathe a simple group or path using Effects > 3D > [Pick one]. You must start with vector data, not a placed raster image. You are very limited in what you can do, and you cannot model multiple objects within one 3D world. Each object you extrude/revolve/rotate is its own world, with its own perspective and camera. You can also make any art into a Symbol, then map that symbol onto any 3D surface you create. The results are, at best, acceptable, and often total garbage.

  • Using the XMP Toolkit in Illustrator

    I'm trying to read information from the XMP metadata of a linked image in Illustrator from a Plugin. The SDK doesn't seem to provide a full API for manipulating XMP apart from the ability to obtain the XMP packet from an art object via the AIArtSuite with GetArtXMP(...) etc.
    So naturally I went for Adobe's XMP Toolkit to do the hard work for me, however I've run into some strange issues that have me a little stumped. Basically, no matter what I do, after calling anything from the XMP Toolkit (SXMPMeta), I end up with either a SIGABRT or BAD_ACCESS in a random object destructor such as ai::FilePath or std::string.  I assume this is due to some memory being deallocated too early based on my usage of the toolkit.
    Doing a bit more reading, I see that the XMP Toolkit uses a singleton pattern under the hood. This leads me to believe that there is some conflict with Illustrator's own implementation of the toolkit and my own.
    Could anyone shed any light on this? Is there another way I should be doing this? Any help anyone can give me would be hugely appreciated!
    Thanks!
    -W
    *Edit: I've linked to the XMP Toolkit both statically and dynamically, each time with the same results.
    Another interesting thing I noticed is that if I compile both my plugin and the XMP toolkit with "Symbols Hidden By Default" (GCC_SYMBOLS_PRIVATE_EXTERN) set to "NO", I don't get a crash, but I can't register my namespaces. They just don't appear in the list of namespaces even after dumping the namespace list out directly after the call to SXMPMeta::RegisterNamespace(...)
    Should I be asking in the XMP Toolkit forum?

    Please ignore this post. The problem was in my own code. I was stomping over memory that wasn't mine to stomp over.
    /idiot

  • Unable to insert an image in a post.

    When I attempt to insert an image in a post I get an "Error on page" message with the following description:
    Webpage error details
    User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 5.1; Trident/4.0; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.0.4506.2152; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; BOIE8;ENUSMSCOM)
    Timestamp: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 23:06:27 UTC
    Message: 'undefined' is null or not an object
    Line: 1805
    Char: 63
    Code: 0
    URI: http://bt.i.lithium.com/t5/scripts/093FBAB1052718DFC22CCFE69E6394AC/lia-scripts-body-min.js
    This occurs using Windows XP and Internet Explorer  8 Version 8.0.6001.18702IC.
    On another PC using Windows XP and Internet Explorer 7 Version 7.0.5730.11 it works OK.
    I have also found that it works OK on the original machine using Firefox.
    Is there anyone else having this problem ?
    Can the moderators please investigate ?

    Keith,
    I am using the Tree symbol.
    DOM.get(id+'_ok').focus()
    ;t.count++;return w;},focus:function(id){var t=this,w;if(w=t.windows[id]){w.zIndex=this.zIndex++;w.element.setStyle('zIndex',w.zIndex);w.element.update();id=id+'_wrapper';DOM.removeClass(t.lastId,'mceFocus');DOM.addClass(id,'mceFocus');t.lastId=id;if(w.focussedElement){w.focussedElement.focus();}elseif(DOM.get(id+'_ok')){DOM.get(w.id+'_ok').focus();}elseif(DOM.get(w.id+'_ifr')){DOM.get(w.id+'_ifr').focus();}}},_addAll:function(te,ne){var i,n,t=this,dom=tinymce.DOM;if(is(ne,'string'))
    te.appendChild(dom.doc.createTextNode(ne))
    ;elseif(ne.length){te=te.appendChild(dom.create(ne[0],ne[1]));for(i=2;i<ne.length;i++)
    The code that is being flagged is given in bold in the last line above.

  • How can I create accurate decimal dimensions when creating a new document or using the art board in Illustrator CS6? When I type in a number with a decimal, it automatically rounds the number up.

    How can I create accurate decimal dimensions when creating a new document or using the art board in Illustrator CS6? When I type in a number with a decimal, it automatically rounds the number up.

    For my part you are welcome, sdowers.
    Unfortunately, the uncertainty arising from the rounding has been up several times here in this forum.
    I just came to remember a warning that needs to be given:
    The rounding of the representation of a numerical value may be harmless in itself, but if you use it for any operation that changes the value, such as multiplication or whatever, things will go wrong because the operation will be made on the basis of the rounded value instead of the true value. So, as in your first case in post #2, 39.625 rounded to 39.63 will become 79.26 instead of 79.25.

  • Using a System Image to Restore an HP Computer in Windows 8

    Hello everyone,
    I would like to bring to everyone's attention, the latest HP Help video for PSG.  It demonstrates how to use a System Image to restore an HP Computer in Windows 8.
    Learn how to restore your HP computer using a system image in Windows 8. With Windows 8, you can backup every file and setting on your computer at once and save it as a system image. If you ever have a software problem, you can restore your PC back to exactly as it was when you created the system image.
    For other helpful videos go to hp.com/supportvideos or youtube.com/howto4u.
    ↙-----------How do I give Kudos?| How do I mark a post as Solved? ----------------↓
    This question was solved.
    View Solution.

    I hope this video helps.
    ↙-----------How do I give Kudos?| How do I mark a post as Solved? ----------------↓

  • Unable to place images in Illustrator

    (Illustrator CS2)
    Hi, Im still learning the program but this is an error that hasn't occurred before under the same circumstances. I am working on Macs at uni (as I dont have Illustrator at home) and with images from my USB drive. I want to get the images into my ai document and trace them to make a logo, but Illustrator is preventing me from doing this in any way I try.
    * I try to 'place' (file>place...) a jpg from the USB into the ai document and one of three things happens:
    1. It appears as though nothing has happened so I 'select all' and this highlights an empty box where my image should be. This always happens on the first try after I open the document.
    2. I delete the box and try again. This time not even the invisible box is placed. The computer processes and then acts as if I commanded it to do nothing.
    3. Irregularly, if I try again it seems like it's about to happen (with a preview showing and asking me to approve) and then I get the message "the operation cannot complete because of an unknown error".
    * I tried opening the jpg in Photoshop and copying and pasting from there and got the same "unknown error" message, followed by the empty invisible box.
    * The images place in photoshop with no problem.
    * The images cant be dragged and dropped into Illustrator.
    * I tried opening the image with Illustrator and get the message "insufficient memory was available to complete the operation". The image is only small - less than 1MB.
    * I tried changing the file to a tiff and a pdf. I tried uploading the jpg to internet and saving and placing from there but this is unsuccessful. I tried other images saved both from my computer and the uni computer and they dont work.
    * SOMETHING WORKS: I tried with random images from the internet and some (usually around 4kb) saved to Documents and placed are done so successfully. But this is no use to me.
    I have done this in the past and there have been no problems placing or pasting images whatsoever. I dont think uninstalling is really an option as they are the uni's computers and that would probably be an ordeal.. I really need this to be fixed quickly as I have no other access to Illustrator and it's part of a job. It happens with all the computers in the lab. I cant even start making the logo until this is overcome. I would really appreciate some help! your ideas on what the problem could be and what needs to be done to fix it.
    Thanks for your time,
    Simon.

    One causes of this error I've encountered has to do with the volume size of the disk the user's home folder is stored on.
    I'm guessing that Simon Manion is logged onto the Mac at his university using a networked home folder that is stored on a volume larger than Illustrator scratch disk management routines can handle. (2TB is the limit I think.)
    The workaround that I've been using is to create a 500MB disk image with Disk Utility, mounting the image, and using it as the only scratch disk. You may need to make your disk image larger. (Remember to restart Illustrator for the new scratch settings to take effect.)
    Even though the actual local volumes are under 2TB, they don't seem to work as scratch disks if the user's home folder lives on a large server. For some reason, setting the scratch disk to a virtual volume gets thing working correctly.
    This has solved the place image problem for me in Illustrator CS, CS2, and CS3.

  • How do I embed an image in a post here?

    How do I embed an image in a post here?

    Hi Roger!
    Some additional tips.
    To post an image in  Discussions, create a Screen Shot of the image you wish to post.
    Upload the image to an online storage facility, like one of these linked to below.
    Flickr
    ImageShack
    PhotoBucket
    PICVAULT
    Twango
    tinypic
    imageno
    Then use HTML formatting, to insert the URL of the location.
    Use this format <img src="Insert URL Here">
    Post the resulting line of text.
    You can alternately insert the URL of the image between ! (Exclamation Marks) to have it appear in a post.
    Keep the images small, and unobtrusive, when possible.
    If the image is large, you can use this format:
    <a href="Insert URL Here"target="_blank"><img src="Insert Same URL Here" width="Insert Desired Size Here"></a>
    Desired Size is a number, dependent on the size to be displayed in the post, such as 20, 50, 200, etc. You can experiment with that number.
    Below that type "Click to View Full Size".
    The image will appear in the post at the size you selected, but when clicked, will open full screen.
    You can also just post a Link/URL, to the image location, using this format:
    <a href="Insert URL Here">Type Title Here</a>
    Or use Skitch.
    Quoted from the Skitch website:
    "Skitch.com is a webservice that works hand in hand with our application Skitch to give you 1-click uploading of images for fast and fun image sharing."
    ali b

  • RGB images in Illustrator

    Hey people,
    I have the following problem: I have a RGB image from photoshop (its an  image from a microscope, basically black background with red and blue contours of a cell) and I copy/pasted this image to a RGB document in Illustrator. The image itself is rectangular, but I want to have it square. So, I created a square black box (black in this case was RGB black: R=0 G=0 B=0) and placed it behind my image.
    On my screen it always looks as it should be, no differences in the the black colors of the microscopy image and the black object of Illustrator. Both  in the Illustrator file and after exporting it as a .pdf-file, there's no difference.
    However, when I print the file with a color laser printer (it's a HP printer, can't specify it more, sorry for that), my image is like "real black" and the square box behind is more "greyish"...Changing the color profiles in the Illustrator file (from RGB to CMYK in Data-->Document color mode --> CMYK) or in the options when I export the pdf file didn't help, the files still look good on the screen, not on the printed paper. If there's any other way to solve it, I would be pleased to have the image not in the CMYK mode, because the contrast and general appearance of the images is worse in the CMYK profile.
    I hope some of you guys can help me! It's incredibly important to solve that problem, because my images finally gonna get published, so I would really appreciate any help!
    Best,
    The_Bacillus_Guy

    Wow, thank you for the incredibly fast responses!!!
    @CHMprepress: I cannot adjust the image, it's for a scientific publication and the images itself have to be shown with as less modifications as possible!
    @steve fairbairn: I've just measured the different shades of black and in both Photoshop and Illustrator. Both say it's: R=0 G=0 B=0. I also checked the color of the pasted image in Illustrator. It's all the same...
    @badchess: The color settings are the same in both files. I basically used the pre-setting "North America General Purpose 2"
    RGB: sRGB IEC61966-2.1
    CMYK: U.S. Web Coated (SWOP) v2
    Or do you think I have to change any of the other options?
    Changing the appearance of black in the preferences doesn't help either...
    Could it also be a problem of the printer?

  • Add Strokes to Placed Images in Illustrator

    Hi All,
    I'm having a problem to add a stroke "frame" around my tiff image in Illustrator. My image is a "traced picture" from Photoshop. I used the following technique:-
    Technique: Use an Effect
    Choose File > Place and select an image to place into Illustrator document.
    Choose File > Place and select an image to place into Illustrator document.
    The image is selected. Open Appearance panel and from the Appearance panel flyout menu, choose Add New Stroke.
    With the Stroke highlighted in the Appearance panel, choose Effect > Path > Outline Object.
    However, the result I got was the stroke around the image NOT the frame around the image.
    How do I  achieve it. Any help and tips are greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

    Technique #1: Use a Mask
    This technique requires Illustrator CS3 and works only when your keyline will be rectangular in shape.
    Choose File > Place and choose an image to place into your Illustrator document. You can either Link or Embed the image. Once you've chosen the image, click the Place button.
    The image is selected (if your image already exists in your document, select it now), so if you look in your Control panel at the top of the screen, you'll see a button labeled "MASK". Click on it. This creates a mask at the exact bounds of the image.
    Press the "D" key for Default. This gives the mask a black 1 pt stroke attribute. Adjust the stroke per your design needs.
    NOTE: An additional benefit to this method of using a mask is that you now have the elements in place to simulate a "frame and image" paradigm like InDesign. Once you've created your mask, you can decide to "crop" your image by double clicking anywhere on the photo. This will put you into Isolation Mode. Now click on the frame edge and resize at will. When you're done, double click outside the image to exit isolation mode and continue working. This method works wonderfully when you're using the Selection tool (black arrow) and have the Bounding Box option turned on (in the View menu).
    Technique #2: Use an Effect
    At first, it may seem that applying a keyline with the use of an Effect is a tedious process. But we all know that once we've applied an effect, we can store it as a Graphic Style, at which point applying our keyline will become a single click. Go ahead, ask me why Adobe doesn't ship Illustrator with such an effect as a default setting in the NDPs (New Document Profiles). Go ahead, ask me why Adobe doesn't allow us to assign keyboard shortcuts to styles like InDesign does. I don't have answers to either of those questions (sorry). But let's get on with the styles, shall we?
    There are two separate effects that we can use, and each provides a different benefit.
    Choose File > Place and select an image to place into your Illustrator document. You can either Link or Embed the image. Once you've chosen the image, click the Place button.
    The image is selected (or if your image already exists in your document, select it). Open your Appearance panel and from the Appearance panel flyout menu, choose Add New Stroke. We can't see the stroke yet, because all we have is an image. But we'll change that in short order.
    With the Stroke highlighted in the Appearance panel, choose Effect > Convert to Shape > Rectangle. Check the Preview button, select the Relative option, and set both the Extra Width and Extra Height to zero (0). (Be careful not to press Tab after you enter the second value, or it will switch back to Absolute.) Click OK to apply the effect. Style the stroke attribute to match your design preference.
    Now make this easier to apply in the future. With the object still selected, open the Graphic Styles panel and click the New Graphic Style button at the bottom of the panel. Give the style an appropriate name. If you then add this style to your NDPs, it will be readily available in all new files that you create.
    Add Strokes to Placed Images in Illustrator | CreativePro.com

  • PLACING Images in Illustrator documents and saving.

    Is there any way to just embed pictures in an illustrator document, because I know when you PLACE (File> Place) them in, it creates a link, and if you accidently delete a pic or something it won't show up in your document you open.  My question is:  Is it possible once you place images in your document, to embed them permanantly without having them linked at all, yet still preserve editing capability?
    I save out a lot of PDF's and sometimes the images are linked to the pdf's as well.  I always have (preserve illustrator editing capabilities) checked when I save out my PDF's in order to make changes regularly.  ANY HELP??

    To embed images go to you links palette flyout menu and choose embed.
    Experienced Illustrator users usually do not embed because
    makes your illustrator files larger and slower.
    cannot keep track of resolution or color space
    they can keep track of their files without losing
    making edits later is a longer process
    overall control and management of image quality is better
    Embedding images on large projects increase the overall project file size, because you make a copy of the image within illustrator each time you embed.
    To edit embedded images, you need to copy from illustrator and paste them into photoshop. Problem is you do not know what original resulotion they are and you maybe upsampling the image or changing the colorspace/profile. If you still want to embed, you are better off , keeping an original image in your job folder, that you can edit in Photoshop, and then use the links palette in Illustrator to relink.

Maybe you are looking for

  • Getting error while installing the Appication

    Hi Team, I am trying to import one of appication into Dev Enveronment, which i have expored from my Live server. While importing i am not getting any issues but while installtion i am getting "NOT COMPATIBLE (Your export may contain calls not support

  • Very slow Final cut studio Install???

    Man It seems I have been installing this FCS2 fro hours now , is this normal?

  • Multiple rows with single date

    I am using a CDC control task to extract and load data from our OLTP source to our Data Warehouse. For our Date dimension, we have a DateKey which is a DATETIME stamp (created using SSAS dimension wizard). Time is always 00:00:00 as a DATETIME value

  • Pre Calendar Sync

    I'm having issues with my Exchange calendar. 1. I am unable to create a new calendar entry and add people to that invite. I can create new entries, but I can't invite people to that meeting. 2. When I move a meeting I created (open and change the dat

  • Urgent: OID superuser(orcladmin) account unlock

    hi friends, my orcladmin super user account has been locked, i tried oidpasswd.exe %..%BIN>oidpasswd connect=[connect string] unlock_su_acct=true but an error is throwing when i run. the account has not been reset. i'm using a remote database, can an