Using a Dlink router in bridged mode with Airport Express

I have a broadban connectiond via a Zyxel P-660 wifi modem + router. I have connected the Airport Express to this modem via ethernet and set up a wifi network. The wifi on the Zyxel has been turned off.
Since the wifi signal is weak in the other rooms, I am planning to link up a Dlink DIR-600 router running on the DD-WRT firmware on the bridged mode with the AE.
What settings do I need to have on the Dlink ?

I am planning to link up a Dlink DIR-600 router running on the DD-WRT firmware on the bridged mode with the AE.
If you are planning to have the Dlink device pickup the wireless signal from the AirPort Express and then "repeat" that signal, it is extremely unlikely that this will work.
Apple uses proprietary settings for their "extend" feature, which will only work with other Apple routers. It is....as far as we know....not compatible with devices from other manufacturers.
What settings do I need to have on the Dlink ?
All you can do is try to follow Dlink's instructions to setup the device as a "repeater" or "relay". The DD-WRT Forum might provide some tips. As you might imagine, there will not be much chance of a Dlink user ever seeing your post on an Apple forum.
DD-WRT Forum :: View topic - D-link DIR-600
There are no settings on the AirPort Express to adjust for this other than the obvious setting to check the box next to "Allow this network to be extended" on the Wireless settings page.
Good luck

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Is anyone using a 1252 ap in bridge mode with channel bonding?

Is anyone using a 1252 ap in bridge mode, with channel bonding?
I had a question a while ago from a customer with regards to bridging with a 1252 ap to increase throughput for a wireless link he was using, from the throughput improvements in 802.11n. At the time I spoke to Cisco Pre-Sales, and they indicated that the bridge function in the 1252 exists for 'testing' purposes. I advised our customer that although it should be possible to implement, we may run into difficulties with TAC support ect. in the event of problems with the link.
Can anyone comment if this is a Cisco validated/approved design now?
Also, has anyone done this and tested the throughput achievable?
Has anyone bridged both 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz radios on a 1252?
The reason I ask is I've seen a note about a Cisco 5Ghz 802.11n bridge being launched.
Thanks in advance.
Alex.

Hi All,
Thanks for all the feedback; I have finally done some throughput testing with the 1252's. Please note, this is very rough, just to give an idea on throughput that's achievable, and what you can enable. Did this a few weeks back, and have now wiped the cnf, so dont have the show runs any more....
The two devices were set up a few feet apart, with the standard 2dBi and 3dBi antenna.
All tests done on the 5GHz radio with Autonomous AP IOS.
I did data transfers via a laptop either end of the link; transferring data using the Test TCP utility (wasn't going for scientific tests, just getting some idea of throughput).
802.11a @ 54mbs (20Mhz chan) WGB - root to non root = 2.43 - 2.5MB/Sec = 19.44 - 20 Mbps
802.11a @ 54mbs (20Mhz chan) WGB non root to root = 2.42 - 2.44MB/Sec = 19.44 - 20 Mbps
802.11n @ 'n' rates( 20Mhz chan) WGB root to non root = 6.18 - 6.33MB/Sec = 49.44 - 50.64 Mbps
802.11n @ 'n' rates ( 20Mhz chan) WGB non root to root = 4.77 - 5.00MB/Sec = 38.16 - 40 Mbps
802.11n @ 'n' rates ( 40Mhz chan) WGB root to non root = 8.59 - 8.58MB/Sec = 68.64 - 68.64 Mbps
802.11n @ 'n' rates ( 40Mhz chan) WGB non root to root = 6.35 - 7.20MB/Sec = 50.8 - 57.6 Mbps
802.11n @ 'n' rates ( 40Mhz chan) Bridge root to non root = 9.73 - 10MB/Sec = 77.84 - 80 Mbps
802.11n @ 'n' rates ( 40Mhz chan) Bridge non root to root = 8.40 - 8.57MB/Sec = 67.2 - 68.56 Mbps
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Also, as per the above posts, this is still not supported by Cisco, so, in my case, I'd be highlighting that to customers straight off, but don't see it as too much of an impediment to deploy, as long as the customer weighs up the risks.
On a side note, I attended a Cisco session recently, and was told that the 802.11n Bridge, (the 1430?) was on hold indefinitely. My feeling is that this makes it more pressing that Cisco introduces support for bridging on the 1252.
Get in the ear of your local Wireless SE's, the more they hear it, the more they'll moan to the Wireless BU in San Jose! ;-)
Bridging with 802.11n has some interesting possibilities, I worked with Alvarion 5GHz bridges 6 or 7 years ago, that could do 'near LOS' - Worked well in cities, using reflection of the RF from buildings. I had never heard of 802.11n back then, but I'm guessing Alvarion was using MIMO to achieve good non-LOS connectivity in the 5GHz band.
Cheers,
Alex.

Can hotspot of iphone work in bridge mode of airport express ?

I wanna share internet from iphone.
the hotsopt of iphone->bridge mode of airport express->ronter->nas,pc,ipad...etc
how to setup this net in my house?
THX

Yes, the Express will work as wireless bridge.. join a wireless network. It then plugs by ethernet into the router. But the router should be working in bridge also so it is really just a WAP. Then you plug in your NAS PC iPAD etc.. that is if the iphone is going to have the ability to handle dhcp from all those devices.. otherwise you have to use the router in NAT mode, which will cause double NAT issues.
BTW this is all wrong.. buy a 3G/4G wireless router. It is far superior setup. And since you will simply be chewing your data allocation it is better to buy the device for the job instead of creating a hydra.

Bridge mode for Airport Express or DSL modem?

I bought a new DSL modem (Netgear Broadband ADSL modem DM111PSP) to replace my old Westell. I also bought the new Aiport Express station (2012 model) to create the WiFI network at home. At the moment, the AE is in Bridge mode so that the DSL modem is on PPPoE to be the one assigning IP's for 3 portable Macs (2 on Wifi and 1 on Powerline->Ethernet). My ISP is AT&T.
I wonder if anyone can answer my following questions:
1) When Apple claims that the AE can support up to 50 concurrent users using the Internet, does that also apply to the AE in Bridge mode?
2) Can my ISP detect the fact that I have 3 computers with the current setup and start charging me more?
3) What will happen if I put the modem in Bridge mode and AE in PPPoE? Can my ISP still track the same info in (2)?
Thank you so much.
My computers (1 MacBook Pro and 2 MacBooks) are all on OS 10.6.8.
Gary

I thought AE cannot assign IP's once in Bridge mode.
That is correct. DHCP and NAT services are turned off when the AirPort Is configured in Bridge Mode.
If both modem and AE assign IP, would that create 'Double NAT' error?
Correct. Either the modem/router has to be in Bridge Mode and the AirPort handles DHCP and NAT.....or.....the modem/router handles DHCP and NAT and the AirPort is set up in Bridge Mode.
There are upsides and downsides to either approach. The simplest setup is to let the modem/router handle DHCP and NAT and configure the AirPort in Bridge Mode.
However, if you were planning to use the Guest Network feature of the new AirPort Express, then the modem/router must be configured in Bridge Mode and and the AirPort handles the DHCP and NAT.

Is it ok to use Westell 6100F in non-bridged mode with Linksys router?

I'm a new Verizon DSL customer.
After several attempts I was only able to connect my Verizon 6100F modem with my Linksys wired router in non-bridged mode. I just changed the IP address in my router, and then released and renewed. I did this just yesterday and the connection is fine...so far.
Fyi, I'm using the Linksys for its firewall. I don't need wireless.
Since I didn't bridge the modem, I assume I'm basically using two routers, the 6100F and the Linksys. Will this cause me issues in the future?
I need to decide whether to try again to bridge the modem or just leave it alone.
Thanks.

dslr595148 wrote:
Yes, it is ok.
Here are things that I have ever heard of what can happen (or happens) with Double NAT:
#1 Might not possible to get online, depending on the LAN IP of both routers. But it sounds like you already solved that issue.
#2 NAT and Double NAT cause lag/latency.
I point to two source(s).
a) URL: http://www.dslreports.com/faq/15872
Title/Location: All DSLR (dslreports.com) FAQs » AT&T Southeast Forum FAQ » Motorola Info » How do I properly set up a Motorola 2210 with a Netgear router.
b) As to why that theory/concept is true, go to http://www.endlagnow.org/ELN/TakeAction_TopTips.aspx
and read tip number one, there.
#3 If you want to allow users from the net to connect to you, I point to..
http://www.portforward.com/ -> Other Guides -> Port Forwarding Behind Two Routers?
#4 http://kb.netgear.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/992
Where they talk about Double NAT, VPNs, and visiting secure (SSL) sites.
#5 Some routers may or may not show up when doing a trace route to the outside.
Another problem with double-NAT is some screen sharing methods may not work. Such as Apple "Back To My Mac".
Using and troubleshooting Back to My Mac in Mac OS X 10.5
I just logged on to this forum to see if I can find the necessary steps to turn my Westel 6100F up to "bridge" so I can use my Linksys WRT54G2v1 as the only router on my home network.
PS, I'm subscribing to this thread in case anyone has a link to step by step for setting this up on the Westel 6100F (I can handle the Linksys end of things).
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Bridge mode in airport express

Is it possible to set up an airport express in the bridge mode?
I had to switch from an Airport extreme to the phone companies router, so I no longer can use my Airport Extreme.
Can I use an Airport Express in a bridge mode to connect to a non apple router?
Thanks,
Randy

Is it possible to set up an airport express in the bridge mode?
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Universal Repeater Mode with Airport Express

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is something like the universal repeater mode with the new Airport Express 802.11n (2nd) available.
Today I use a Airport Express in the Client Mode to connect to a WLAN and I connect my Mac to the Ethernet Port and the Airport is in Bridge Mode.
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Maybe I'm wrong, but why I can't use this "Connection Sharing" Options with "Join a wireless Network", the Client Mode, too.
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Clamshell mode with Airport Express

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I'm planning on buying an Airport Express but I'm using my Macbook Pro 2009 in clamshell mode connected to an external monitor.
Will the signal with the lid closed be as good as with an open lid?
Apple doesn't mention anything concerning wifi signal in clamshell mode.
I really wouldn't want to use it with and open lid.
Thanks in advance
Jimmy

Is this going to be a permanent or just a temporary solution?
I'm in the same situation, where I use my PB as a home computer and only open the lid when turhing it on.
My situation is easier because the WiFi is on thE side of the display bezel under a plastic cover.
Your MBP has the antenna located in between the display hinges above the keyboard - that long plastic strip going across. If you close the lid, is it visible from the back? If not, you may have some signal issues.
If this is a permanent setup you are looking into, then either go for a USB WiFi or a PCMCIA card. I'd choose the latter, if I were you. Free USB ports are hard to come by on laptops and hubs can take you only this far...
PLEASE BEAR IN MIND: ALL APPLE LAPTOPS USE THE KEYBOARD AREA AS A BIG HEATSINK! IF YOU ARE PLANNING ON RUNNING SOME CPU INTENSIVE TASKS WITH A CLOSED LID, YOUR FAN WILL BE GOING OFF QUITE OFTEN (annouying). THE HEAT PROXIMITY FROM THE KBD TO THE DISPLAY WILL NOT HELP LIFETIME OF YOUR DISPLAY AT ALL. I CAN ALREADY SEE VERY MINOR "BURN" MARKS ON MINE - DARKENING OF CERTAIN AREAS. BUT AS I SAID, I USE IT AS A DESKTOP COMPUTER, SO I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE DISPLAY ANY MORE.
OFF TOPIC, BUT WORTH MENTIONING.....

Wifi signal in clamshell mode with Airport Express

Hi
I'm planning on buying an Airport Express but I'm using my Macbook Pro 2009 in clamshell mode connected to an external monitor.
Will the signal with the lid closed be as good as with an open lid?
Apple doesn't mention anything concerning wifi signal in clamshell mode.
I really wouldn't want to use it with and open lid.
Thanks in advance
Jimmy

Running it once a week on battery is enough?
You could unplug the AC and the external display from it once a week, run the battery down to nothing, and recharge it all the way. But that wouldn't be ideal, because deep discharges like that are much harder on the battery than partial discharges. Using the machine on battery power for an hour or two every day or two, with those partial discharges and recharges adding up to about a cycle per week, is easier on the battery.
Shouldn't there be a way to tell the macbook to run on current only?
If you mean on AC power only, there's no need to tell it to do that. It does that without being told, whenever the AC power adapter is connected and the machine isn't drawing more power than the AC adapter can provide. On the very rare occasions when you are working the machine so hard that it draws more power than the adapter can supply, it draws the necessary additional power from the battery without being told to do so.
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I have had a long go-round with V tech support over slow DSL speeds since March 2011. They sent me the Westell 6100G to replace an ancient Westell that had provided satisfactory service for many years, connected through my LInksys BFSR41.
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V tech support said, "connect the Westell directly". This indeed solved all intermittance problems. But I need the router and I need it to do the DHCP addressing dynamically as I frequently swap out machines. FYI this is a PPOe connection.
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Setup airport extream in bridge mode with ethernet

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Ace module in bridged mode with client nat

Could someone confirm whatever a NAT is supported for ACE-20 module, please?
Let me to explain technical details.
I do need to convert working CSM(SLB) config to ACE configuration and I am not quite sure
if the configuration below is correct. ACE module should be configured in bridge mode with two
vlans - vlan 36 (client) and vlan 436 (server) - bridged with interface bvi 36.
NAT on ACE configurad as "nat dynamic 1025 vlan 436" into corresponding
"policy-map type loadbalance"
Could you check two parts of configs and advise me if the ACE config is
properly converted from CSM and will be working in the same way (especialy for NAT).
Thank you in advance.
CSM config
=======
vlan 36 client
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gateway 10.36.3.1
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ip address 10.36.3.3 255.255.255.0 alt 10.36.3.4 255.255.255.0
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probe SHAREPOINT tcp
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real 10.36.3.102 443
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probe WEBMAIL-443
serverfarm WEBMAIL-80
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predictor leastconns
real 10.36.3.101 80
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real 10.36.3.102 80
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probe SHAREPOINT
vserver WEBMAIL-443
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replicate csrp connection
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inservice
vserver WEBMAIL-80
virtual 10.36.3.100 tcp www
serverfarm WEBMAIL-80
replicate csrp connection
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inservice
ACE config
=======
probe tcp WEBMAIL-443
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passdetect interval 60
port 443
probe tcp SHAREPOINT
interval 30
open 3
passdetect interval 120
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probe WEBMAIL-443
rserver 10-36-3-101 443
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rserver 10-36-3-102 443
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probe SHAREPOINT
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    loadbalance vip icmp-reply active
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bridge-group 36
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no shutdown
interface vlan 436
bridge-group 36
nat-pool 1025 10.36.3.100 10.36.3.100 netmask 255.255.255.0
no shutdown
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peer ip address 10.36.3.4 255.255.255.0
no shutdown

Hello F.Makarenko-
You will want to use PAT while you do nat, so change the natpool configuration to this:
   nat-pool 1025 10.36.3.100 10.36.3.100 netmask 255.255.255.0 pat
You also need to apply the nat like this:
policy-map multi-match IFVLAN36-POLICY
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If you are going to build out a lot of classes, you can instead do source nat like this:
policy-map multi-match IFVLAN36-POLICY
class WEBMAIL-80
    appl-parameter http advanced-options HTTP_ADV_OPT
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    loadbalance vip icmp-reply active
class WEBMAIL-443
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    loadbalance policy WEBMAIL-443
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    loadbalance vip icmp-reply active
class class-default
    nat dynamic 1025 vlan 436
Regards,
Chris Higgins

How to configure router in bridge mode

Hi
I have 2 cisco 2621 series routers to be configured in bridge mode.
i'll be connecting this 2 routers using serial connection 128 lease line.
the problem is im not sure how to configure this 2 routers in bridge mode.
as far as i know, i need to issue the command no ip routing.
is there anything else i need to do?
can anyone guide me on how to configure
the router in bridge mode? is there any support page for this is cisco website?
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Please check the link to the configuration guide below. It describes how to configure transparent bridging.
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/sw/iosswrel/ps1831/products_configuration_guide_chapter09186a00800ca65a.html
Regards,
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ACE in bridge mode with FWSM as gateway

our design
FWSM--vlan 7--ACE-vlan 8---servers with default gateway as FWSM
originally there were no plans of servers looking to load balance traffic when they wanted to communicate each other. now there is a need this
since ACE is in bridge mode, there are no ip address to VLAN configured on it and cant do source NAT
what we want servers in serverfarm A can contact a single ip which can be load balanced and traffic to be sent to serverfarm B. both serverfarms reside in vlan 8 and ace is in bridge. with VLAN not having IP how can we get this working. we were looking to create a policy on ACE with an ip address in vlan 8 and then do a source NAT to send the traffic to serverfarm 7.
with FWSM as the default gateway, by enabling permit intra traffic , it doesnt work because the command routes the traffic, dont think will send the traffic back to the same vlan
e.g static (inside,outside) 10.7.0.1 10.7.8.13 and allow intra traffic.
so when a machine 10.7.8.11 pings 10.7.0.1 it goes to the FWSM but fwsm doesnt look for 10.7.8.13
with ACE in bridge and FWSM doing above how to get around. can something be done on ACE in bridge mode with source NAT
Thanks

First, why don't you have an ip in your ACE vlan ?
Then, for traffic hitting a vip, we can do source nating even in bridge mode.
But if the vip is not an ip in vlan 8, your server will anyway send the traffic to the FWSM and ACE will first bridge the request.
The FWSM should then send the request back to ACE (not sure how this can be done).
So the request from the server will actually hit the vip on vlan 7 (not vlan 8).
So your policy-map with client nat must be on vlan 7.
Another option would be to configure a static route on the server to point the vip to the ACE vlan 8 ip address (which you should have configured).
In this case, the policy-map will have to be in vlan 8 with client-nat.
Gilles.

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