Using a mixing board as a pre amp?

Hey all,
I have a decent little M-Audio audio interface but I'd like to record more than 2 real instrument tracks simultaneously for a recording session. I believe I can record up to 8 real instrument tracks at any given time with GB3 and was wondering if I am able to use a mixing board as a pre amp much like my audio interface? If so, how do I connect it up?
Here's the link to our board:
http://www.behringer.com/UB2222FX/index.cfm?lang=ENG
Thanks!
Jay.

For 8 channels you'd need a FireWire interface or mixing console that offers at least 8 channels out.
An example, the interface I use, the Presonus FirePod FireWire Audio Interface
8 Mic PREs and 10 channels out (GB can use 8 of those)

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I've had Logic Express 7 for about a year. I've been
using my 4-track as a mixing board up till this
point. My 4-track just got stolen so I want to
replace it with a digital board that I can use to
record multiple tracks independently and then mix
them after I have recorded them. I don't need a lot
of tracks, just some options. I want to make sure
that the board I get is compatible with the computer
and logic express and that I can plug it in and go,
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to spend a ton either.... and suggestions?
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