Using Airport plus additional wireless router (help, possible?)

Hi All,
I'm curious to know if I can connect to an additional wireless router while I am also connected to my AirPort Extreme.
I just moved into an apartment with an existing wireless internet connection and I currently can't replace my AirPort base station with their router that is provided by Verizon. I also have my own AirPort Extreme that I connect to in order to access an external hard drive wirelessly.
As of now I have been switching between the two of them, which, as you can imagine, can be quite inconvenient. So, I would like to use them at the same time, if that is possible.
Does anyone know if I can set this up and how I go about doing it?
Thanks so much!

Unfortunately, unlike the AirPort Express Base Station (AX), the 802.11n AirPort Extreme Base Station (AEBSn) cannot "Join an existing wireless network."
The only other option, would be to try to establish a Wireless Distribution System (WDS) between the apartment's wireless router and the AEBSn ... but this would only work if that router is WDS-compatible. There are only a few that are.

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If you configure the Express correctly to "join" your FIOS wireless network, you can position it anywhere that it will receive a good, strong wireless signal.
The trick to setting the Express up to "join" is that you must choose exactly the same type of security for the Express as your main router is using. This is tricky when you are using devices from two different manufacturers because they often use different names for the same thing.
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If you are connected to your neighbour's network then he is showing poor practice in allowing his network to be unprotected. If your iMac has connected to your network without you entering the password the you are standing in to danger as you have an unprotected network too. Here are some reasons why you should protect your Wireless Network:
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War Drivers. These a people in a car with a Wireless enabled laptop drive around looking for unprotected networks.
Your Network. Access to the files on your computer.
Criminal Activity. Your Internet Service Provider assigns you an IP address whilst you are on the Internet. If someone perpetrates a crime; spamming, illegal documents etc whilst "borrowing" your network you will be implicated and it will be difficult to prove this data wasn't passed through your computers.
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