Using alternative color profiles in Aperture

I have used many RAW Programs in the past. Now it is Aperture's turn. I have been a Mac user since 1994 and I am glad to see a program like Aperture.
My question is about Alternate Color Profiles. I have not figured out how to use an alternate color profile for the images in Aperture. This can be done in PhotoShop, Capture One, and DPP for Canon. I have many wide gamut profiles I like to work with.
My work around it to export the image to PhotoShop and apply the wider gamut profile to the image. I noticed that Aperture exports the image in Adobe RGB (1998). By doing so Aperture has already pared down the size of the color gamut of the image.
How can I set Aperture to work in or export images in a wider gamut color profile?
Thanks,
Rob Eckert

This may be of help:
http://support.apple.com/kb/ht2026
Setting your colorspace in Aperture
In contrast with Adobe Photoshop, you don't have to set your "workspace." Instead, Aperture will always work in a wide gamut, except for when you apply Onscreen Proofing, which shows you how your work should look in final output.
Perhaps the Onscreen Proofing feature will do what you want.
And this for an overview:
http://documentation.apple.com/en/aperture/usermanual/index.html#chapter=A%26sec tion=1%26tasks=true

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