Using an Airport Extreme 8011.ac and a Time Capsule 8011.n

Hi,I've searched and read a lot, but I'm struggling to figure out the best way to connect (using an ethernet cable) an older 8011.n TC to a new 8011.ac Airport Extreme. I wired it right and I have a green light on the AE, but the wired connection to my iMac does not work. Can someone just take me through the steps to best configure this set up? Thanks!

Connect the iMac to your router - which is either the TC or the Extreme.
Use the router's LAN port.

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Make AirPort Extreme share internet connection with Time Capsule

Hello,
This is the situation: in one room there's an old Mac, the modem which delivers the internet and the AirPort Extreme which is connected to the modem.
In another room there's the Mac Pro, the Time Capsule which is connected to the Mac Pro with an ethernet cable and to a printer via USB.
I want the AirPort Extreme to wirelessly share it's internet connection with the Time Capsule so that the Time Capsule can share the printer with all three Macs (old Mac, Mac Pro and Macbook Pro), the Mac Pro can use the Time Capsule for Time Machine functionality and maybe the Macbook Pro too.
And just using the Time Capsule for internet.
How can I do this?
At the moment the AirPort Extreme is disconnected and the Time Capsule is used instead, but this way I can't share the printer...
Thanks!

Is that AirPort Extreme "flat" or dome-shaped? If it's flat (802.11n-capable), you should be able to configure the "main" router to "Allow this network to be extended" and the other to "Join a wireless network". If the Extreme is dome-shaped, then you need a more-complicated "WDS" arrangement. In either case it shouldn't matter much which router plays which role.
I'm not sure what you mean by "And just using the Time Capsule for internet."
Nathan-NL wrote:
At the moment the AirPort Extreme is disconnected and the Time Capsule is used instead, but this way I can't share the printer...
Is the printer connected to the USB port of the Time Capsule? Can you see the printer in the "Printer" panel of AirPort Utility? What happens when you try to use it from one of the Macs?

I am using an Airport Extreme for wireless and a Netgear VPN Switch for wired connections. How do I get the two networks to connect?

I am using an Airport Extreme for wireless and also have a Netgear VPN Switch (FV5318) for internal wired ethernet connections. How do I get the two networks to connect to each other?

Tesserax, I would like to keep the Airport Extreme in nplace before the Netgear FVS318 switch because I am using all of the 8 ethernet outputs distributed to 8 differerent locationsl This way I can just use one of the LAN outputs from the Airport to feed the FVS318. Here is what I think I am hearing you say:
Tne reason why the wired and wireless devices are not communicating is because the FVS318G is also a DHCP server and in conflict with the AEBS.
To remedy the situastion here is probably what I need to do in order:
1. Change the LAN IP Address of the Netgear FVS318G to be the same subnet of the Airport Extreme.
2. Then, disable the Netgear FVS318G as a DHCP server.
3. Make sure the ethernet cable from the LAN port of the Airport Extreme connectis to the LAN port of the Netgear FVS318G.
4. Restart everything.
Can you provide me the steps I need to take to get the right IP addresses from the Airport Extreme to put into the Netgear to fix the conflict? I have the Airport Utility. I also have two airport express hot spots, and two Apple TVs in addition to computers attached to the 8 ethernet lines.
Thank you.
Steve

Using both Airport Extreme Base Station and Airport Express

I am using a Airport Extreme and a AX, my goal is to use the base unit on one floor of the home and they AX as an extender.
I have linked the AX unit to join the existing network, now how to do I enable WEP 128 bit?

Here are the WDS setup steps...
AEBSn - WDS Setup
(Note: To facilitate the WDS set up, place the base stations within near proximity of each other during the set up phase, and then relocate them to their desired locations when complete.)
Main Base Station Setup (AEBSn)
o Click the AirPort status menu in the menu bar and choose the wireless network created by the base station you want to set up as the main base station.
o Open AirPort Utility (located in the Utilities folder in the Applications folder on a Macintosh computer, or in Start > All Programs > AirPort on a computer using Windows).
o Select the main base station, and choose Manual Setup from the Base
Station menu, or double-click the base station to open the configuration in a separate window.
o Enter the base station password if necessary. If the base station is using the default password of public, you will not be prompted for a password.
o Click Wireless in the toolbar, and then choose “Participate in a WDS network” from the Wireless Mode pop-up menu.
o Click WDS and then choose “WDS main” from the WDS Mode pop-up menu.
o Select the “Allow wireless clients” checkbox if you want client computer to connect to this base station.
o Click the Add "+" button and enter the MAC address of the base stations you want to connect to this base station.
o Click Update to send the new settings to the base stations in the WDS.
Remote Base Station Setup (AX)
o Click the AirPort status menu in the menu bar and choose the wireless network created by the base station you want to set up as a remote base station.
o Open AirPort Utility (in the Utilities folder in the Applications folder on a Macintosh computer, or in Start > All Programs > AirPort on a computer using Windows).
o Select the remote base station, and choose Manual Setup from the Base Station menu.
o Enter the base station password, if necessary. If the base station is using the default password of public, you will not be prompted for a password.
o Enter the same network password as the main base station, if necessary.
o Click AirPort in the toolbar and click Wireless. Choose “Participate in a WDS network” from the Wireless Mode pop-up menu, and choose the same channel as the main base station from the Channel pop-up menu.
o Click WDS and choose “WDS remote” from the pop-up menu.
o Enter the MAC address of the main base station in the WDS Main field. The MAC address is also referred to as the AirPort ID and is printed on the label on the bottom of the base station.
o Click Update to transfer the settings to the base station.
(ref: Pages 41-45 of "Designing AirPort Extreme 802.11n Networks.

Using several Airport Extremes to create and extend corporate + guest wifi

hello all,
my office has purchased 6 airport extremes for our new office, AirPort Extreme 802.11ac (6th Generation), running version 7.73
the plan was to hard wire one extreme via the wan port and create both a corporate and guest network
then link to the others throughout the office by wirelessly extending to provide complete coverage
after moving around the location of one or two units my coverage is now complete across the office space
my setup is as follows:
my network is a windows active directory setup where one of my domain controllers is my DHCP server in the range 192.168.x.x
to enable the guest network on my extremes i need to have my first hard wired (wan port) extreme unit configured in DHCP mode
this airport extreme has pulled down an ip address from my windows server in the range 192.168.x.x
the extreme then uses its own dhcp range to provide connectivity to my clients, 172.16.x.x for corporate wifi and 10.0.x.x for guest wifi
my issue is
the dhcp range that the extreme uses for all my corporate wifi users is 172.16.x.x
i cannot access any servers on my windows network 192.168.x.x by drive maps/hostnames as they are challenged for authentication
I can only access by using ip addresses instead of hostnames
all of my shares and wired users are configured to use hostnames for file shares, printers etc on my servers
the first extreme gets its DNS info from my windows dhcp server correctly but these settings are not passed down to my wifi clients
is there a way to do this ?
I have tried using the 'domain name' field on the extreme dhcp config but this had made no difference
can anyone advise on this ?
do i need to use a different setup, maybe switch to wired config ?
what i'd like to have is the following:
2 wireless networks, one for corporate users and one for guests/visitors
my corporate users to have access to all my corporate servers as their permissions allow using hostnames for access
my guest users to have internet access only
my 6 access points to be connected to each other either wired or wirelessly to provide coverage throughout my office
i was told that the 6 airport extreme's would allow me to do this but now i'm not so sure
any help or suggestions would be gratefully accepted,
thanks

You are trying to use Apple domestic products in a business setup.. this is not what they were designed for.
Could you use 3 units to cover the offices.. please have a go as this simplifies things tremendously.. just use three units in bridge.. preferably all connected to your ethernet network and so operating as AP only.
If that works then use the other 3 units for your guest network.. these should then be placed on a different vlan via your main managed switch.. so they can get internet but have no connection at all to the office network.. but other ways around it could be found. As you have already discovered a simple double NAT might sufficiently block guest access.

Make your Airport Extreme work JUST LIKE A TIME CAPSULE!

Do you own Leopard, yet can't use *Time Machine* because *_IT DOES NOT SUPPORT THE AIRPORT EXTREME'S USB HARD-DRIVE FEATURE?_* Is there an inexpensive solution to this problem, or does it require a new _Time Capsule?_
Well, the AEBS hardware does not seem to be the issue. Both a Terminal work-around and a UNIX script exist, both of which *ENABLE FULL AEBS USB DRIVE FUNCTIONALITY -- with no Time Capsule required.* Any current AEBS can function just like a Time Capsule-- here's a link to an Automator program that can run a UNIX script for you, which will set up your AEBS hard-drive for use with Time Machine:
http://www.9to5mac.com/time-machine-fix-flux-capacitor-43262455
This will *ENABLE FULL AEBS-TM FUNCTIONALITY--* +*at no extra cost!*+ This "software fix" seems to work just fine in most cases... However, it's not "official", so use at your own discretion.
*Does anyone know of any other, potentially better software fixes or work-arounds?* The more solutions there are, the more functionality that Airport Extreme owners can get from their hardware.

I've done this, and it will let you do Time Machine backups to the air disk. But I recommend against it. The issue with the AEBS seems to be the nature of network writes. The AEBS (with the current firmware) doesn't guarantee the data is written before responding to the network, so it's not a secure backup. Everything will probably be fine, until there's a power fluctuation or network dropout or something disruptive like that.
Time Machine to another Mac is also disabled, until the 10.5.2 update. I believe this release improved network writes, so you can safely back up to network volumes of any Leopard computer. I'm now able to use a network volume from my server (running regular Leopard).
I'd wait until new firmware comes out for the AEBS, that will hopefully give it the Time Capsule functionality.

Airport extreme losing wireless connection with Time Capsule

I have a 1st gen Time Capsule acting as my home wireless network base station which is configured to allow the wireless network to be extended. It is also the sole DHCP server. I have a 4th gen Airport Extreme in Extend a Wireless network mode. Everything was running ok for several months. However, since I upgraded both devices to Version 7.6, the Airport extreme keeps losing its connection with the network every few hours, requiring a daily reboot. Since the problem occured, I have disabled MAC address Access Control on the Time Capsule, and allocated a reserved DHCP IP address for the Airport Extreme - but this has not solved the problem.
Does anyone have any ideas?

I had exactly the same problem. I also think it's a bug in 7.6. It seemed solved by downgrading my Time Capsule (TC) and my Airport Extreme (AE) to 7.5.2. To do so start the Airport Utility (in your /Applications/Utilities folder). Double click on the TC or AE. In the Menu at the top on your screen go to "Base Station" --> "Upload Firmware..." and the select 7.5.2. After rebooting your device, downgrade the other. Hopefully your problem is solved as well!

How to use 2 Airport Extreme Units on a Network?

I currently have an Airport Extreme (AX) as my wireless host with internet connectivity, with an Airport Express also on the network to extend the range of coverage.
These past Holidays “Santa” delivered a new Mac Book Pro, along with a Time Machine which is built into an Airport Extreme. I am planning to install this to replace my current (less than 1 year old) existing AX. All of which begs the question as to what to do with the AX that I replace. Obviously selling it as a pre-loved item is an option. But are there other uses that I could put this AX to on my wireless network?
I currently have 2 PC’s and now 2 Mac’s on the network, plus 2 wireless printer / scanners, and our 2 i-Phones have access to the network also.
Thanks, Bruce.

Welcome to the discussions!
+These past Holidays “Santa” delivered a new Mac Book Pro, along with a Time Machine which is built into an Airport Extreme.+
You have a Time Capsule, correct?
The Time Capsule can "extend a wireless network" as well as perform backup functions on the network.
You could continue to use your AirPort Express in another part of the house to provide a stronger wireless signal in that area. (I've yet to meet the first person who felt that they had too much wireless coverage in their home).
If you have a DVR or newer DVD player that requires an ethernet connection for advanced features from the internet, the ethernet port on the Express is "live" when it is set to "extend", so you might think about that option as well.
Hotels don't use ethernet nearly as much as several years ago, but I always take my spare Express on the road to hook up to the hotel's ethernet jack and create a wireless network in the room for the laptop or iPhone. Works great.

Airport Extreme (4th generation) and "Wireless Client Mode"

Hello All,
I am using an Airport Extreme (4th generation) and I wonder why in "Wireless Client Mode" I am unable to connect my network using the Ethernet connection.
Basically, what I wish to do is a bridge between a Base Station Wireless N <--> Base Station Wireless N (Airport Extreme) distributing the connection via its integrated Ethernet ports.
Thanks,
Sebastian

I wonder why in "Wireless Client Mode" I am unable to connect my network using the Ethernet connection.
The Ethernet ports are not enabled if you configure the AirPort Extreme to "Join a wireless network". Oddly, the USB port is enabled.
If you have another Apple "n" wireless router as your main base station, you could configure the AirPort Extreme to "Extend a wireless network". This would provide more wireless coverage and enable the Ethernet ports on the device.
Ironically, the less expensive AirPort Express 802.11n will do what you want.
When the Express is is manually configured to "Join a wireless network", there is a special feature to "Enable Ethernet clients", which will activate the Ethernet port.

Extending a simultaneous dual-band network using an Airport Extreme

I have a new Time Capsule that can operate in simultaneous dual-band mode. I have a single SSID for both the 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz networks, and all of my devices correctly connect using the appropriate frequency.
I also have an older square Airport Extreme that's dual-band capable (but not simultaneous dual-band). I have this Airport Extreme set up to extend the network from the Time Capsule, but it's extending the 5 GHz network rather than the 2.4 GHz network. I'd rather have it extend the 2.4 GHz network because our iPhones move around the house much more often than our other wireless clients.
I know that I could go back to having different SSIDs for the 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz networks, and then telling the Airport Extreme explicitly to extend the 2.4 GHz network, but I'm really enjoying having a single SSID that any device can use to connect to my network.
Thanks,
Scott Gardner

Thanks for the replies. Right now, there's about 30 feet, two interior plaster/lathe walls and a closet between the Time Capsule and the Airport Extreme. The area of the house where I'm trying to improve the 2.4 GHz reception (an attached studio) is only about another 18 feet, one interior wall and one exterior wall further past the Airport Extreme's current location. I can't put the Airport Extreme any further from the Time Capsule because the 18 feet between its current location and the attached studio is an open area.
If there are no hidden settings that I'm missing, I guess I'll just break the network back into two discrete SSIDs and explicitly tell the Airport Extreme to extend the 2.4 GHz network.
Thanks again,
Scott Gardner

Aperture, the aebs and the time capsule feature - multiple machines?

Hi folks,
The main aperture library and photos are located on my macpro which is downstairs.
I load photographs into AP exclusively through this machine.
I also manage the AP library from the MP as well.
However, I'm thinking about putting the AP library and vaults etc.. to an external which will be connected to my airport extreme base station in the 'time capsule' manner. My goal is to use the external as a network storage device and not use the time capsule feature at all - i use a variety of externals for backups b/c i have 5 macs and varying degrees of needing to back up.
So, if i'm on my macbook pro upstairs, can I access the AP library on the external? Would it be seamless? Has anyone tried this yet?
Sorry...would search, but that's down right now.
Cheers,
keebler

thanks. no way i'm trying it then b/c performance is important

I have Verizon FiOS service for phone, internet and TV but I only have one TV hooked up for it for just basic cable service with no DVR and no need for widgets. Can I use an Airport Extreme as my router and not use the FiOs router?

I want to use an Airport Extreme as my router. I currently have a Verizon FiOS router. I have Verizon for phone, internet and TV. However, TV-wise, I just have a basic service for one TV with just a regular box. No HD, no DVR. Don't need access to a menu, widgets, on-demand. Can I eliminate the FiOS Router and just use the Airport Extreme and still have phone and internet?

I know that it will increase my wireless coverage in my house but will it increase the speeds?
Not sure what you are asking here. The AirPort Extreme is only going to be as fast as the Internet connection that it receives.....which is 75/75. It cannot take a 75/75 connection and make it go any faster.
If you locate the AirPort Extreme in an area where you need more wireless signal coverage, the AirPort Extreme would deliver 75/75 in that area. But, keep in mind that the AirPort Extreme must connect to the FIOS router using a permanent, wired Ethernet cable connection.
If you are asking if the AirPort Extreme can wirelessly connect to the FIOS modem router, and extend the FIOS wireless network, the AirPort Extreme would not be compatible with a FIOS product for that purpose.

Can I use the Time Capsule strictly for system backup and continue to use my Airport Extreme for all my wireless needs

I want to use the Apple Time Capsule as an external drive and continue to use my Airport Extreme for all my wireless needs. Can I do that? The reason I ask is that my Time Machine utility cannot find the TIme Capsule - it only shows me the Airport Extreme, even when I "Rescan". SO I am unable to use the Time Capsule.

You will need to connect an Ethernet cable from one of the LAN <-> ports on the AirPort Extreme to the WAN "O" port on the Time Capsule.
Perform a "hard reset" on the Time Capsule by holding in the reset button for 9-10 seconds, then give it another minute to restart to a slow, blinking amber light.
Open AirPort Utility, select the Time Capsule, and click Manual Setup
Click the Time Capsule tab located below the row of icons to assign a name to the Time Capsule, a device password, and adjust Time Zone settings.
Next, click the Wireless tab located to the right of the Time Capsule tab
Change the setting for Wireless Mode to Off
Click the Internet icon, then click the Internet Connection tab
Connect Using = Ethernet
Connection Sharing = Off (Bridge Mode)
Click Update at the lower right to save the settings and allow 30 seconds for the Time Capsule to restart to a green light.
You are all set

Using an Airport Extreme and a Time Capsule at the same time

Guys I have had an Airport Extreme and a Time Capsule running together for nearly a year now and over the last few days the TC has been behaving badly. I changed its settings and now I'm in a mess. No, I can't remember the previous settings
Does anyone have a definitive list of the settings I need please? I have an ethernet cable modem, and the Airport Extreme is plugged into that as the main router. Two computers and the Time Capsule are plugged into the Airport Extreme using ethernet. The Time Capsule at the moment is just used as a network drive for Time Machine, but at some point I want to move it, with a long ethernet cable, and use it for extending the wifi in the house.
1. Should I connect the TC using its WAN port or one of the other ethernet ports? At present it's one of the other ones.
2. What TC settings should I use to have it function purely as a hard drive? At the moment there's some kind of conflict and my internet connection drops every 30 minutes.
3. Then later, what settings will I need to get the ethernet connected TC to extend the range of my wifi?
I read the Apple doc about WDS and tried setting the TC up that way. Then I discovered there is no WDS option in the AE Wireless settings. Only "Create a wireless network" or "extend a wireless network". The same setting on the TC has these options: "Create a wireless network" "Participate in a WDS network" or "extend a wireless network". Both devices have firmware 7.5.2. It didn't work with only the TC set for WDS, of course, but after that I can't get it back the way it was - which wasn't reliable anyway
Any help in exactly what the Wireless and Internet settings should be would be massively useful. Thanks!

If you use the extreme as a router then the tc should be connected via its wan port to one of the lan ports on the extreme. Tc should be set up in bridge mode. Basically you could set it up to create another wireless network beside the one created by the extreme. There is no need to use WDS or extend the other network.
Use the same SSID and password for both machines. Computers will connect to the strongest signal.

I have a airport extreme base station and i reset it and now the wifi connection is open to everyone... so how do i get a password back on it so everyone cant use it

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Read the user guide:
http://support.apple.com/manuals/#airport

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