Using an airport extreme in both bridged mode and guest network with DHCP

I currently use a third-generation airport extreme in bridge mode to connect my various Mac servers To the Internet. I'm using bridge mode on the AirPort Extreme because I have up to five static IP address (only using three now) I am currently not using the wireless network, and none of the servers are serving DHCP. I am looking at the Newer airport extreme with guest network Wi-Fi. My question is, does the new airport extreme base station support bridge- mode for any devices and host DHCP for the guest network connecting wirelessly to the base station?

The AirPort Extreme cannot be in Bridge Mode and support a Guest Network.
The AirPort must be configured to provide DHCP and NAT services if you want to enable the Guest Network function.
If you really do have a 3rd Gen AirPort Extreme, it will support the Guest Network feature if you connect the AirPort directly to a simple modem.....not a modem/router or gateway type of devices.......and configure the AirPort to provide DHCP and NAT services for the network.

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Airport Extreme 802.11AC + 5th Gen and guest network access

I have the current gen Airport Extreme 802.11AC with a 5th Gen extending the network. With this setup, I am unable to login using our guest network setup. I have tried using guest network with a password and one without but its the same results. When a guest logins, it stuck attempting to login with no error messages.
So is it possible to have this configuration and still have guest network access?

Please review what I said originally.......that the guest network function on the AirPort Extreme is designed to work with a simple modem......so the AirPort acts as the main router for the network..
Another way of saying the same thing is that the AirPort needs to be "in charge" of your network for the guest feature to work correctly. The AirPort cannot be in charge if it is connected to another device that is already configured to be the main router on your network.....your Actiontec modem/router.
The Actiontec device combines the functions of a separate modem and a separate router in one package. This type of device is known as a modem/router, or also known as a gateway.
Some folks call a modem/router or a gateway......a modem. So, things can get confusing.
I do not know if it is possible for the Actiontec device that you have to be configured to act as a simple modem.....so the routing functions of the device are completely turned off. (Turning off the wireless on the Actiotec does not turn off the routing function).
If you turn off the wireless on the Actionec, it becomes a modem and a wired router. And that wired router is still in charge of your network.
The guest network feature will not work correctly unless the AirPort is in charge of your network.
My suggestion was for you to ask your Internet Service Provider (ISP), if they could supply you with a simple modem. That is all that you need. You don't need two routers....and the Actiontec that you have now is not allowing the guest feature to work correctly.

Can a single Access Point support both bridge mode and Access Point mode at the same time

Hi Guys
Does anyone know which access point can work in both bridge mode and AP mode ?
Cheers

Well what are you trying to cover. If its really a large outdoor area, then look at the mesh AP. Those require a WLC. Autonomous or stand alone ap can perform bridging on one radio and client access on another. You can also look at AP that support indoor mesh that also controlled by a wlc. If your putting APs outdoors, then look at the outdoor mesh.
Thanks,
Scott Fella
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Extend both main and guest networks with a 2nd Time Capsule?

I have a 4th generation 2TB Time Capsule set up to broadcast primary and guest networks. I am running out of storage. I would like to increase my storage and I would also like to extend both primary and guest networks.
I currently use an older Linksys router (WRT330N) operating in bridge mode (wired connection to the TC) to extend the primary network, but it does not extend the guest network.
If I purchase a second (5th generation) Time Capsule to replace the Linksys, can it be set up to extend both the primary and guest networks?
From searching the forum, it appears not, but I'd like to confirm. Is true for both both wireless and cabled range extension options?
If I'm not able to extend the guest network this way, I'm inclined to settle for extending the primary network as I currently do and look for other ways to increase my network storage capacity (e.g. by upgrading the drive in my existing TC).

If I purchase a second (5th generation) Time Capsule to replace the Linksys, can it be set up to extend both the primary and guest networks?
Yes, either using wireless or an Ethernet connection between the two Time Capsules, providing that the 4th Gen Time Capsule is running at least firmware version 7.6.3.
A wired Ethernet connection between the two Time Capsules is highly recommended. If you plan to extend using wireless, the second Time Capsule will need to be located where it can receive a very good signal from the first.

TS4597 I am using an Airport Extreme as my base station and I want to extend its range using a recently purchased AirPort Express. However neither device is showing up on my AirPort Utility on either my older MacBook Pro or my IPad 4. What do I do?

I am using an older AirPort Extreme as my base station and I want to extend the range by using a recently purchased AirPort Express. When I try to find either device using the AirPort Utilities function on either my new IPad 4 or my older MacBook Pro neither device is detected. However the utility is seeing that we are connected to the Internet which is through the Extreme. What am I doing wrong?

For now, leave the AirPort Express powered off.
Power off the entire network....all devices.....in any order that you want
Wait a few minutes
Power up the modem first, and let it run 2-3 minutes by itself
Power up the AirPort Extreme next, and let it run a full minute
Keep powering up devices one at a time about a minute apart until everything is powered up (leave the Express off for now)
Open AirPort Utility and check to see if the AirPort Extreme is visible.
If it's not, click the AirPort Utility menu at the upper left of the screen, then click About AirPort Utility. Post back with the version number of AirPort Utility that you see there....which should be AirPort Utility 5.6.1.
Post back on your progress.

Extend Wifi with Airport Express when Airport Extreme is in Bridge Mode

Hello,
I'm trying to make my Wifi network easier at home but Im having some trouble.
My Internet Provider installed a Router at home. So I had to connect my Airport Extreme to the IP Router via cable and setup in Bridge Mode.
In my Airport Extreme I created a Wifi Network called WIFI HOME.
Than I connected two Airport Express into my Airport Extreme via cable and created two new wifi networks: WIFI HOME 2 and WIFI HOME 3.
But, in my opinion, this is not cleaver way to have my Wifi Network setup, since I have to change networks all the time.
The problem is that every time I tried to extend my current WIFI HOME setup into one of the Airport Express, the Airport Express crashes during the setup reset and my network starts to behave wrongly.
I'm starting to think that is something related to the Bridge Mode in my Airport Extreme. but I want to check with you guys if that makes any sense.
Thanks a lot!

Power off both of the AirPort Express devices
Disconnect the Ethernet cables
Wait a minute
Power up one of the AirPort Express devices for a few minutes
Hold in the reset button on the Express for 10 seconds and release
Allow a full minute for the AirPort Express to restart to a slow, blinking amber light
Connect the Ethernet cable to the WAN "O" port on the AirPort Express if it is a two port version
Click the AirPort icon at the top of the Mac's screen
Look for a listing of New AirPort Bsee Station
Click on AirPort Express
The setup utility will open up automatically and take a minute to analyze the network. Then, it will suggest that the Express be configured to Extend the AirPort Extreme network.
Type in a name that you want to call the AirPort Express. Example........Express1
Click Next
Then, the screen message will change to indicate that the AirPort Express is being configured to extend using Ethernet.
When you see the message of Setup Complete, click Done.
The first Express is now set up and working correctly.
Set up the second Express exactly the same way........except give it a different name to avoid confusion.....Example......Express2.

Can you share an external hard drive over a network when your Apple Airport Extreme is in bridge mode?

Hello, is it possible to share an external hard drive over a network when I have my Airport Extreme in bridge mode? I can't use my AE as my main router at the moment but still want to be able to use the hard drive on the network, and the router I am using isn't capable of adding an external hard drive. I use Windows 7 and the other router is a Netgear. I have searched the communities and have not come across an answer to this question. I have tried several configurations within windows to try and see the hard drive but none have worked. I can see the hard drive when I run Airport utlities, but it cannot be seen on the network. Thanks to anyone who can help!

I think there is some confusion in this thread..
If you are sharing on a local LAN port forwarding is not required.
is it possible to share an external hard drive over a network when I have my Airport Extreme in bridge mode?
Answer is yes.. no port forwarding, mapping whatever term is used.. is needed. Port mapping is required when you cross over a NAT router.. as long as all the devices are inside a single LAN.. then no port mapping.
I assign to my Airport Extreme, do I do so with the settings of:
Service: SMB
Type: TCP
Server IP: xx.x.x.x
Port Start: 445
Port End: 445
This would not work even from WAN.. SMB is blocked by all responsible ISP.. there is simply too many unprotected windows machines out there. If they allowed SMB .. the world would be flooded with hijacked bots. And stolen data like bank accounts. SMB is not a secure protocol.
But this is not necessary on a LAN.
The problem can be Mavericks which does a terrible job presenting network drives.. The usual recommendations are to use AFP or force the connection to CIFS (ie SMB1 not 2).
If you use airport,, then use AFP.
In finder.. Go, Connect to server.
AFP://AEname or AEIPaddress. (replace with the network name of the AE or its actual IP address).
When asked for password.. type public if you did not change it or use whatever password you put.
Store the password in the keychain.

Will Airport Extreme accept both 811.b and 811.g equipped computers?

I just purchased a brand new Airport Extreme base station. My main computer is a G5 with extreme card. Secondary computers are several G4's and a couple of laptops, all using regular Airport cards. I haven't tried to hook it all up yet, but just wanted to be sure the Extreme base station will recognize the older machines running Airport. Thanks. I could not find the info in topic history.

Thanks, Duane
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Using Second Telstra Gateway Max in Bridge Mode to Extend Network Coverage

Hi all I'm about to connect my new BigPond Cable service and have been supplied the new Telstra Gateway Max (Netgear C6300). I need to extend the network coverage out to a free standing double garage/man cave. Rather than buying a seperate range extender or access point I was thinking of running ethernet cable from the primary Telstra Gateway Max in the house to the double garage and then attach to a second Telstra Gateway Max (which a friend has given me) in bridge mode. Can anyone advise is this will be possible and how I go about it?

It doesn't work that way with bridging. If you bridge your existing Gateway, then the wireless function on that one switches off. You need to connect the 2nd Router tothe existing with ethernet cable and then disable the DHCP function on the second router so that you don't get conflicting addresses being assigned on your network. I'm not sure that the Gateway Max will let you do this. You would be better off buying a new Router (not one modem/router), and hooking up that way.

Can I use an Airport Extreme (A 1408) to extend my current network using the same model Extreme that creates current network?

Looking at "refurb" Airport Extreme (A 1408) for just a bit more than Express.
Kinda' reduntant, but, will have "backup" Extreme in case of failure.

Yes. Please check out the following Apple Support article for details.

Does or will the Airport Extreme be able to share the Guest network to a Ethernet port?

Did not know if there was or possibly will be the ability to seperate ethernet ports to make a hardwired guest network?

Sorry, not possible to extend the Guest Network using either wireless or Ethernet.
You might want to let Apple know on any new features that you want to see.
Apple - AirPort Extreme - Feedback

AirPort Extreme 802.11n (2nd Gen) no Guest Network capability?

I have an "AirPort Extreme 802.11n (2nd Gen)" according to a serial number lookup here.
I am not sure if this is the same as MB053LL/A which is mentioned is this archived thread. (Couldn't find a way to lookup the part number + couldn't find the tech specs at apple.com.)
I was wondering if this base station has the capability to setup a guest network in addition to the primary network.
According to the above mentioned Apple Discussions thread, the base station needs to have simultaneous dual band operation capability to make this possible. (Since I couldn't find the tech specs, I'm not sure what this base station has.)
I would assume from this Knowledge Base Article that the 2nd generation AirPort Extreme is one generation too old:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3477
Am I correct?
(It's set to "Share a public IP address" under Connection Sharing.)

Hi, flips01. You are correct. Simultaneous dual-band was introduced with the 3rd generation.

Can I use Time Capsule to share a public ip within a network with DHCP enabled?

Hi I have a router with 8 public ip's which is doing DHCP for the public ip's I own. What I am trying to do is to give a static public IP to my Time Capsule and then the time capsule should create another network (both wired and wireless) with private IP (eg. 192.168.1.xxx) and do DHCP to the connected to time capsule devices.
I tried to select the option SHARE A PUBLIC IP but it is not working.
Any help?
Armandos

I am assuming that the static IP address that you are attempting to assign the WAN-side of the Time Capsule is one of the eight Public IP addresses available to you ... correct?
If so, then you should be able to configure the TC's WAN port for either: 1) Use the "Using DHCP" option to grab one of these Public IP addresses from the upstream router's DHCP server, or 2) Use the "Manually" option, and then, enter the appropriate IP addresses in their appropriate fields.
With the Connection Sharing = Share a public IP address selected, the TC's NAT & DHCP services will be enabled and they should be able to provide a Private LAN behind it.
Are either or neither the TC's WAN or LAN sides working properly?

Using Extreme in Bridge mode, can't see the DHCP clients if the D-Link router

I have an Airport Extreme attached to my DLink modem/router. I have configured the Airport Extreme in Bridge mode, and I was expecting all clients to show up in my D-Link router. Although the configuration works most of the time, I have been experience a few issues:
1. From time to time, computers attached (both Windows and/or Mac) complain about an IP address conflict. I can ignore the error and it works fine.
2. From time to time, I loose Internet connectivity, and I need to disconnect my computer and reconnect again to solve the issue. This is not necessarily linked to symptom #1
3. On my D-Link router/modem (which I only use to connect my Airport to my ISP), if I check the DHCP clients, I can see the Airport router connected and *some* of the wireless clients that connect through the Airport. The list changes quite randomly, and at times, I see the airport appearing twice with different IP addresses.
Any help configuring it "right" will be appreciated!
Alain

When the AirPort Extreme is in bridge mode, the AirPort Extreme is simply passing through the DHCP settings and services that are handled by the D-Link modem/router.
In other words, the D-Link device is in total charge of the DHCP services for devices on the network.
You might want to check with D-Link support to see if they have any recommended practices for configuing the modem/router when another router....the AirPort Extreme in this case....is being used in bridge mode on the network

Using several Airport Extremes to create and extend corporate + guest wifi

hello all,
my office has purchased 6 airport extremes for our new office, AirPort Extreme 802.11ac (6th Generation), running version 7.73
the plan was to hard wire one extreme via the wan port and create both a corporate and guest network
then link to the others throughout the office by wirelessly extending to provide complete coverage
after moving around the location of one or two units my coverage is now complete across the office space
my setup is as follows:
my network is a windows active directory setup where one of my domain controllers is my DHCP server in the range 192.168.x.x
to enable the guest network on my extremes i need to have my first hard wired (wan port) extreme unit configured in DHCP mode
this airport extreme has pulled down an ip address from my windows server in the range 192.168.x.x
the extreme then uses its own dhcp range to provide connectivity to my clients, 172.16.x.x for corporate wifi and 10.0.x.x for guest wifi
my issue is
the dhcp range that the extreme uses for all my corporate wifi users is 172.16.x.x
i cannot access any servers on my windows network 192.168.x.x by drive maps/hostnames as they are challenged for authentication
I can only access by using ip addresses instead of hostnames
all of my shares and wired users are configured to use hostnames for file shares, printers etc on my servers
the first extreme gets its DNS info from my windows dhcp server correctly but these settings are not passed down to my wifi clients
is there a way to do this ?
I have tried using the 'domain name' field on the extreme dhcp config but this had made no difference
can anyone advise on this ?
do i need to use a different setup, maybe switch to wired config ?
what i'd like to have is the following:
2 wireless networks, one for corporate users and one for guests/visitors
my corporate users to have access to all my corporate servers as their permissions allow using hostnames for access
my guest users to have internet access only
my 6 access points to be connected to each other either wired or wirelessly to provide coverage throughout my office
i was told that the 6 airport extreme's would allow me to do this but now i'm not so sure
any help or suggestions would be gratefully accepted,
thanks

You are trying to use Apple domestic products in a business setup.. this is not what they were designed for.
Could you use 3 units to cover the offices.. please have a go as this simplifies things tremendously.. just use three units in bridge.. preferably all connected to your ethernet network and so operating as AP only.
If that works then use the other 3 units for your guest network.. these should then be placed on a different vlan via your main managed switch.. so they can get internet but have no connection at all to the office network.. but other ways around it could be found. As you have already discovered a simple double NAT might sufficiently block guest access.

Using an airport extreme in both bridged mode and guest network with DHCP

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