Using Aperture like iPhoto

Hopefully this will be my last dumb question. I disabled the previews stuff and now the program runs much better, but still not as smooth as expected.
One question I have is, when I am in the layout mode (altcmdb) - the one where it gives you all the thumbnails...
How do I make it work like iPhoto, where I can double click on the picture and it shows me the big photo, then after I double click on the photo, it saves then goes back into the thumbnail mode?
Thanks.

In Aperture if you press CommandOptionB you will be in mode Browser. If you press W the Projects Panel will disappear. If you double click an image it will revert to the standard mode with the picture selected in the Viewer. You can make adjustments and press CommandOptionB to revert to the Browser mode again. If you choose once you are in Standard Mode, you can press F and go to full screen mode.
Jeff

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Hi All,
I have just received my MBP and will be using Aperture to edit my RAW files from a Nikon camera.
I was wondering if Aperture works the same as IPhoto in regards to the library function or do you still use IPhoto to arrange, tag your images etc...
If that is the case how do you do that if you are using RAW files? Does IPhoto recognise RAW images?
I would like to hear your workflow on a MAC.
Cheers.

Sad to say Richard but you are close but not quite correct. Aperture has a much reduced set of RAW support vs. iPhoto. Of this I can personally attest, but they're both covered on the Apple site.
To add to some other points you address...
iPhoto is still needed for simple integration with other iLife apps., as Aperture has no iLife integration. There is an Aperture2iLife script available (Lightbox software) which automates an export and import process. If you carry an iPod around with photos, then you'll need to maintain iPhoto for that purpose. Welcome to the land of duplicates!
iPhoto does indeed process the RAW and all image work is performed on a JPEG version therafter. The RAW is never used, but is stored in the Originals folder (along with any original JPG or TIF files from the camera if these were shot vs. RAW).
Aperture's RAW converter is markedly superior to iPhoto, and the control and editing options likewise. As noted, Aperture does not change the original RAW (or other imported file), but saves the edit instructions (akin to adjustment layers in Photoshop) for rebuilding the image viewed from the original. Enhanced book and Web Gallery options exist vs. iPhoto ... so integration to iWeb isn't quite as important, though would be very useful.

Reason to use Aperture or iPhoto library?

A few months ago I purchase Aperture, on install I selected the option to let is use my iPhoto library. While "learning" to use Aperture, I didn't want to totally abandon iPhoto in case I wasn't pleased with it. Now I will be using Aperture solely, still doesn't do all I want, but better/close than iPhoto.
So, my question is, is there a reason to transfer all of the iPhoto images to a new Aperture library, or is there no real difference between the two types of libraries? I have already created an Aperture library for some commerical work that I am doing, whereas the iPhoto is primarily a personal/family album.
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Yes, I haven't tried syncing the two. I have imported into aperture, but haven't tried going the other way, or a two-way sync.
Syncing? Neither Aperture nor iPhoto supports syncing of photo libraries so far. Aperture can merge iPhoto libraries and Aperture libraries, but it cannot keep two libraries in sync with each other.
There would be one minor advantage, if you import your iPhoto library into a new Aperture library. Aperture is a bit more economical with additional files, like faces and previews. iPhoto will always scan imported image files for faces, and iPhoto will always create high quality previews. In Aperture you can disable faces and previews, or set the size of previews to a smaller file size. So, an Aperture library might be smaller than a corresponding iPhoto library, when you create it new.
And I am not yet quite sure, what will happen, if new Aperture versions and iPhoto versions will be released, that require a paid upgrade. To use an iPhoto library with Aperture, right now it has to be upgraded in iPhoto to an iPhoto version compatible with Aperture. You cannot open iPhoto '9 libraries directly in Aperture, you need iPhoto '11. If it stays this way, you might be required to buy a paid upgrade to iPhoto to upgrade your combined iPhoto-Aperture library to be used with a new Aperture 4, even if you are no longer using iPhoto. In this case, it would be safer to convert the iPhoto library to an Aperture library by importing the iPhoto library into a new, empty Aperture library.

Using Aperture and iPhoto

I have been using Aperture, and love it. I just got the new iLife 08 and like some features in iPhoto that I cannot use in Aperture, such as the new web gallery and the new iPhoto books. Is there a way I can easily use both without managing 2 databases?

I have just done the same thing, and don't those Web Galleries look great?!
You do have to manage two databases (Aperture and iPhoto) but you do not have to make additional copies of your photos (as I am sure you are keen to preserve HD space on your MBP).
In iPhoto preferences you can elect to not add your imported pictures to the iPhoto library.
So one way to do it is import your Aperture Previews via the File menu in iPhoto. This way iPhoto has access to the Photos but you haven;t made yet another copy. This does necessitate having a whole heap of previews that you may or may not publish on your web gallery, but you can also access them smoothly and easily from within iLife and iWork.
Another and even better way for preserving disk space would be to not have Previews on in the first place in Aperture (thereby saving room).
Make an individual album or a smart folder in aperture and then export those particular images as JPEGs at whatever quality you choose.
These images would almost certainly need to be incorporated into the iPhoto library. But at least you have only doubled up on a few select pics and not your whole aperture library.

Importing Photos without using Aperture or iPhoto

Hi all,
I am preparing to migrate from the cuddly world of iPhoto into the big bad world of Aperture. During the transition I was hoping to continue using both programs (especially given the excellent photobook and slideshow functions of iPhoto) and was going to start importing photos and using referenced masters so that both iPhoto and Aperture can look at the same sets of data.
Are there any programs out there that can automate the import of photos from a camera and allow me to do things like autosplit events or change all the filenames to reflect the photos? I often have several weeks worth of photos that I import and it would be nice to do this without creating a single large folder without everything in it.

In the Aperture Preferences you can decide what quality of Previews you generate and also elect to share them with the iLife and iWork applications
Previews are jpegs which are updated as you process your Raws and are a convenient way of sharing the pics with other apps without the whole Export process.
You can access the Previews in iPhoto via the File -> Show Aperture Library and drag them over. Set iPhoto to a referenced Library and they will take up no extra disk space.
In almost all cases they will be sufficient quality for an iPhoto book.
If I am going to use shared previews could I not just import everything directly into the Aperture library?
Yes.
Regards
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I've just purchased Aperture. I already use Iphoto and have several gigs of imagery in an iphoto library file.
I want to direct Aperture to import all from my iphoto file.
But....I only don't want Ap to simply create a duplicate of this file and use up several more gigs of space.
Is there any way I can get Ap to just create thumbnails rather than complete copies?
I should say that I will onlybe using Ap from now on, so what happens to the iphoto is of little consequence.

Hi,
You can use the referenced master in Aperture to get this done. When you import pictures from iPhoto, you can "dig" into the iPhoto library with Aperture and choose which photo you want to import where. In the import dialog, you can choose from "import to Aperture library" or "leave the file where they are". This will do the trick.
Personally I imported the files into my Aperture library, this created duplicates. But while importing them, I reclassified into Aperture to better fit my workflow based on Aperture capability. Then I archive my iPhoto library (just in case) and deleted it from my main disk. This freed up the space, but gave me a much better managed Aperture library. With a managed library in Aperture, you can have the vault feature as an extra measure for backups.
Considering you want to move on to Aperture, I would consider using the Aperture managed library that I describe in my second part of this message.

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I could be mistaken, but I don't believe you are correct.
You need Previews enabled to drag images OUT of AP.
However, to drag images IN, I do not believe you need Previews enabled. Just drop them in the Project List Pane. I'm pretty sure this has worked since 1.0 - long before Previews.
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Aperture and iPhoto should use the same library

Hi all,
It seems that there is a lot of conversation about moving photos between Aperture and iPhoto. For example, some like iPhotos slideshow better but still require Apertures adjustment options. Still others have tried, to no avail, to use Aperture as iPhoto's external editor.
Personally, I have a large iPhoto library with most photos tagged with keywords. I have just started using Aperture and am yet to decide if its extra features are useful for a novice photographer like myself. Other than the price, I see no reason not to use Aperture instead of iPhoto but I would want to import my entire iPhoto library into Aperture.
My question, however, is why we need to 'import' from one app to the other. Without understanding how the aperture / iphoto databases work, I would assume there is no fundamental reason why Aperture could not simply open an existing iPhoto library and visa versa. They both support RAW, keywords, books etc. And while I am sure there are some deviations in the databases, surely each app could simply ignore the features it does not understand.
Is this something that anyone else has considered or think would be good. I would imagine that the easier it is for customers to upgrade from iPhoto to Aperture the better. Does Apple plan on supporting this in the future or is the import option 'good enough'.
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Can I and if so how do I best set up Aperture as main app. (master) with iPhoto as sub app that accesses the same library to sort through, look at, order books, etc.
Simply set the Preferences to 'Share Previews with iLife Applications' in Aperture. Then go to iPhoto -> File -> Show Aperture Library. A media browser will open and you can drag the pics from the Browser to the iPhoto Window. Note: You're getting the Aperture Previews not Masters. Note too that if you set iPhoto to Referenced mode (iPhoto -> Preferences -> Advanced) then you won't use double the disk space.
+Remember though, you are not accessing the Aperture Library. If you make changes in the Aperture Library (Re-edit the shots) after bringing pics to iPhoto, those changes are not reflected in iPhoto.+
This is what William means when he says the iPhoto does not access the Aperture Library.
Regards
TD

Better to use Aperture or FCPX for import?

I am starting from scratch with FCPX. I have a MBA with a portable thunderbolt drive, and right now this is my primary. I have an older 2008 iMac, and this is my workstation I use for everything when I am at home. I'm on the road more than at home and do most of my FCPX work on the road.
I use Aperture (and iPhoto) primarily for media management. Now that it imports movies from my camcorder and DSLR, it's really the primary app we use. A huge side benefit is the disk savings offered over importing everything in iMovie.
Are there any drawbacks to just using Aperture for importing? I can still use these videos, and convert them to prores, etc. with FCPX as needed for video projects, correct?
85% of the iMovie (or now FCPX) stuff is just to share it online, send to family, etc. But the 15% of the projects are important ones, which is why I'm investing in FCPX. I don't always know when I import the footage if it is going to be included in an important project or not. Housekeeping-wise, it seems like the best way is to use Aperture and avoid the large files until I need them in FCPX.
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Aperture Loses iPhoto Edited Images

Hello,
I need help on importing iPhoto libraries.
I have 22 iPhoto libraries (iPhoto 8.1.2, 140GB total for all libraries) on an iMac 27, OS 10.6.8, and am importing into Aperture 3.2.2. I imported each iPhoto library separately and rebuilt their thumbnails before each import. It was my understanding that Aperture would import the original iPhoto images as well as the edited images along with metadata. Now I have discovered that in my case it does this sometimes but not always. When it does work Aperture shows two images in a stack, the iPhoto edited image (with the keywords "iPhoto Edited" added, and the iPhoto original image (with the keywords "iPhoto Original" added). This is what I would expect. However, there are many images that I edited in iPhoto that show up in Aperture as just a image, the one that was edited in iPhoto. The iPhoto original image is not there. Aperture has added the keywords "iPhoto Converted" (whatever that means) and "iPhoto Original" (which it is not) to this photo. If I go back to these images in iPhoto and do a revert to original, iPhoto reverts the edit back to the (true) original image. So,both the original and edited images are in iPhoto.
I have rebooted the Mac and repaired permissions but that didn't help.
Getting my Aperture library setup has been a struggle and I appreciate all the help I have gotten. It looks like I still need more. Thanks!
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Hello Leonie,
You were right on - many thanks! I thought I was facing having to start over again.
I have found Apple's Aperture User's Guide very useful but nowhere in its 907 pages have I found your instructions described or "iPhoto Converted" defined.
It works as you described and I have some comments: (1) After the resetting all adjustments in Aperture the new version continues to have these same keyword tags as before the reset. The adjustment badge is gone and the version number is appended to the image name. (2) I also used "New Version from Master" on some iPhoto edited photos. This creates a new version; however, all the adjustments, keywords and badges were deleted, but the version number is appended to the name. (3) I tried "Show Master Image". This apparently only works in Split View & Viewer (dimmed out in Browser). When I do this the adjustments are apparently not changed except for crops which are removed (this seems odd). Keywords and badges are not changed. There is no version number, of course, and the image is identified as a master image. (4) I am curious about why using Aperture's iPhoto Browser to import photos results in two photos, the iPhoto original and the iPhoto edited. They have the appropriate iPhoto Edited or iPhoto Original tags; however, except for rotation and cropping the iPhoto adjustments appear to have been reset. The edited ones do not have an adjustment badge, even though it was adjusted in iPhoto. All the images have a keyword badge and Aperture has added a keyword which it the title of the iPhoto album or event the photo came from. They all have a Master Image label at the top. I duplicated one of the iPhoto edited images. The duplicate displayed a Master Image label and Reset All Adjustment was dimmed.
I would appreciate your observations on these comments.
Aperture is an impressive piece of software and thanks to your help I think I am finally ready to start using it!
Mike

Continue using Aperture?

I'm thinking about next steps after the system upgrade to OS X Yosemite (10.10.3) with new Photos app. I don't see any advantage of using Photos.
With this upgrade my iPhoto library which I share with Aperture has been migrated to Photos. I can see two different libraries in the Pictures folder. Each of them has 80GB. However used disc space did not change after the migration which is confusing (it did not consume additional 80GB for Photos library). Does any one know who the migration works ? Does it move photos to the new library or copy them or what is the process?
It looks I can continue using iPhoto/Aperture like before but new changes are not reflected in Photos. Is it true? Is there any risk continue using Aperture?
Thanks, Michal.

Each of them has 80GB. However used disc space did not change after the migration which is confusing (it did not consume additional 80GB for Photos library). Does any one know who the migration works ? Does it move photos to the new library or copy them or what is the process?
The migration created hard links to the image files in your Aperture/iPhoto library, Michal. The hard links look like the original files and are showing the same size, but are actually only additional entries in the file table, so they need nearly no additional storage.
See these two documents:
Photos saves disk space by sharing images with your iPhoto or Aperture libraries - Apple Support
Six Colors: The (hard) link between Photos and iPhoto
It looks I can continue using iPhoto/Aperture like before but new changes are not reflected in Photos. Is it true? Is there any risk continue using Aperture?
You can simply launch Aperture again and continue to use it. But the changes will only be visible, when you use Aperture on your original library. Photos will not see them.
When later a more versatile Photos.app will be released, you could migrate the Aperture Library again to Photos.
Deleting the new Photos Library will not free much disk space, since the image files are also used for the Aperture Library. So you could simply leave it installed, if you want to continue to experiment. But it will not hurt to delete the new Photos library, if you are only using Aperture or iPhoto.
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