Using camera shake on animated projects in AE CS6 - Problems

Hi,
I have AE CS6 version 11.0.4.2 running Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit 12 GB RAM, Nvidia 3 GB on a Toshiba Qosmio laptop. Its not a technical support question, its a problem I am having with camera shake preset I have, also the Wiggle effect doesn't work anymore with my animated projects. My first project used camera shake on an animated balloon here is the video, notice the trees moving (shaking) and the balloon is perfectly stable and appears to be moving slowly in the sky:
Balloon - YouTube
The above video was a tripod shot of the sky, and a photo of a hot air balloon animated to appear its moving in the sky. Camera shake was added to give the illusion that it was a hand held shot. It worked perfect. Now all my other animated projects can not use the camera shake preset anymore, the balloon now shakes along with the original footage. Please see this YouTube video that explains it in more detail and you will see what I mean:
HELP with camera shake problem - YouTube
What am I doing wrong or what did I do right the first time? I spent about 3 hours on this and can NOT figure out whats going on. Why did the first animated project work and the other now won't work? I am at a loss, no idea whats going on. Can anyone please help?
Thank you,
Ron

I must not be understanding something here. In your first video there are no clouds in the sky so the balloon looks like it is stable and it is stable. In the second example HELP with camera shake problem - YouTube there are clouds in the sky so there are features around the balloon. The balloon is still moving smoothly across the sky (drag a guide line in your comp and check for yourself) but the moving clouds give you a very odd appearance to the video because the motion does not match. The balloon is smoothly moving across a shaking background, which it would not do if the camera was shaking. Your problem isn't that the shake preset added shake to the balloon, it is that it didn't. There would be a little parallax shift between the balloon and the clouds, but it probably wouldn't be enough to notice. If you simply make the video a parent of the balloon then the shot will look more realistic. It seems to me like you are asking to produce something that would not exist in real live visually, and your brain knows it is not right, so you are interpreting things incorrectly. Go buy a toy balloon, take it outside on a cloudy day and let it go and shoot it with your smart phone and look at the movement.

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I have sent in a request for this feature, i hope everyone who reads this thread, sends one. It would be a great addition to the software.
to BDRUMMER67, i'm not sure i understand your post, you say u used a digieffects plug in to make your camera shake, which plug in did you use? Displace? I have used that one and its still not the same, doesnt have that same look.

Camera Shake? App for this?

Anyone use a good app for camera shake? The kind that only lets you take a photo once the camera is steady...

I've used an app named Darkroom for this, and it seems to work well.
It includes an autosave option and if autosave is not used, you are provided an option to discard or use the photo.

I can't turn on my iphone4s after I turn it off. It all started when my camera shakes when i was about to take pictures so I decided to turn it off.

Hi everyone,
Could someone help me. I charged my iphone4s and went to sleep. When I woke up I used it to take pictures but I noticed the camera shake so I decided to turn it off. When I turn it on I can't turn it on. When I tried charging it and turn it on it just vibrate but it won't turn on. Please help.

RESET DEVICE
Hold down the Sleep/Wake button and the home button together until the apple logo appears (ignore the ON/OFF slider) then let both buttons go and wait for device to restart (no data will be lost).

Would Final Cut be a solution to my animation project?

Hello,
I am looking to purchase movie editing software and was wondering how Final Cut works with animation techniques, both traditional 2-D and digital morphing.
For instance; say I filmed a doll and then wanted to animate it's lips and synch the lip movements up with sound. How difficult (or easy) would it be to do this? Could I utilize 2-D animation effects (think Superfriends and other cartoons) of several drawings of lips in different positions and then compositing them onto several keyframes of the movie? Would I remove the mouth on the doll first before filming and then add the mouth frame by frame or could I overlay a frame of mouth with fleshtones to match the "skin" of the doll on top of the doll's scuplted mouth?
Or is there a way to actually morph the movement of the doll's actual mouth in Final Cut? What do you experienced animators/editors think is the best technique to animate mouth movements on a figure? And are we talking serious crunching and rendering time?
Thanks for any help! I've been told Final Cut is a great editing program but I want to know if it can do what I need and the demos I've watched haven't convinced me yet. Thanks!

Your questions are really about how you are going to approach your stop motion, not about how you will edit it. Although FCP has the usual VFX tools and there are ways you can use these to create 'animation', it's not what you're looking to do, I don't believe. FCP could indeed be used to storyboard, cut, rearrange and edit your animation sequences, add multitrack audio to the sequence, and master output. But it is NOT an animation system. Although as mentioned, you could prep layers and lay these over characters layers, where are you going to prepare those layers? Stop thinking about FCP and look to what you want to do to create the frames for your movie - FCP will come later if you need it.
Take a look at Boinx iStopMotion (at http://www.istopmotion.com), a very nice stop motion package for digital cameras. And think more about the steps and stages you will go through to produce your animation. No software package can create your animation for you (unless you're going down the CG road, in which case look to Maya, XSI, 3DS Max or similar). Remember, as with all animation - AUDIO COMES FIRST!

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