Using Compressor To Render - Slower in 3?

I'm doing a new project in Motion 3 and I use Compressor to render the thing because I have a 16:9 custom setting in Compressor that I use. Is it my imagination, or is it rendering a lot slower?
I have a play range of about 1 minute rendering and it has taken 20 minutes to render half of it.
This is a simple project too - no video footage, animated text and shapes with some Photoshop TIFFs.
Thanks

no for me compressor is faster. Although i have had occasions when motion couldnt export to Compressor. it booted compressor up but then i just got the spinning pizza wheel of death. A re boot fixed it.
not much help to you except to confirm that there's something odd going on with your system. But then you probably already knew that
adam

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This ain't going to help much, sorry. Give us a few more hours, maybe a day or two, one or more of the DVDSP wonks will stop by and offer better advice.
What's best quality, most efficient way to get our 85 min documentary out of FCP 6 to an SD DVD master? < </div>
The DVD will be MPEG2. Working in anything higher quality than that has questionable benefits, the ratio of increased processing time to improved results is completely one-sided, a waste of time.
Compression is a disappointing series of compromises unless you totally understand the process. You can spend a few hours researching articles by Jan Ozer to help you decide what your workflow should be. Me, I would export a self-contained movie out of FCP to a codec that would hold a reasonable amount of spatial rez before going to Compressor.
Exporting self-contained creates a new media file that requires no further handling or rendering which is probably holding you up now. Every frame is being recreated before it can be compressed.But I never use Compressor to create the MPEG2, I let DVDSP do that for me. This shortcut produces every bit of quality I need for my projects.
Your situation, apparently, is different. And there is no real shortcut for you except to research it and try to find a recipe that suits your expectations. But whatever you do, MPEG2 is going to be a real bummer, especailly if you are shrinking or scaling your large format image to letterbox or anamorphic.
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I need help. I use a Sony camera (HDR CX560) bought in US with NTSC as standard. I live in Europe and would like to burn a DVD for my Blue-Ray player showing it on my PAL TV.
The footage is 1080i, 1920x1080, 29,97 fps.
I have tried several different ways of achieving good results, but with no luck:
1. Editing in Final Cut Pro with original specs (1080i, 29,97). The result showing in FCP viewer is not perfect, but quite good. A little bit of stuttering and a bit blury pictures. I have tried "Send to Compressor...", selected MPEG-2 for DVD in Compressor (customized to 16:9 TV format). The process stops after a minute - a file is being created, but only the first 30 seconds of the movie is visible. I also tried Share>Export file using Compressor settings. The file created does not have acceptable quality, mostly bescause of very disturbing stripes. I also tried Share>Master file but the output is not good enough (using codec Apple ProRes422 (HQ) - same stripes.
2. Editing in Final Cut Pro with european standard (1080i, 25i). The result in FCP viewer is good with one exception - a lot of stuttering images while panning. I tried all the output/share alternatives mentioned above, with poor result.
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pnils wrote:
. Created a project with the original settings (1080i, 1920x1080, 29,97 fps).
FCP is usually pretty bullet proof in handling formats – and most of the time letting it set the project properties is the best way.
From what you've said about the camera and the footage, you shouldn't encounter any potential problems until after you export and start the standards conversion.
Create another project. When the new project dialogue window appears, make sure the settings are set to automatic (video properties set by first clip). Take one of the 1080i 60 clips and edit it to the timeline to set those properties. Export that clip as a test. If it plays smoothly, and it should, proceed to delete the clip from the project and paste the problem sequence to the new project. Delete all project render files and event render files. Now export (don't bother to re-render).
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Hi FCP gurus! I need your help!
Everytime I try to export using compressor, my submission fails.
I even try a sequence a exported as m2v on Monday, but today is not working.
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Q1 No.
Q2 see above
Q3 There is no such thing as uncompressed. It's just a different codec rather than a perfect copy of your timeline.
Q4 lots of reasons for making a conversion, but none of them are valid for making DVD's
Q5 Nothing wrong with letting DVDSP make the encoding-- just be sure to get into the preferences for DVDSP and set the destinations to a folder for the project, so you don't overwrite any other projects. Depending on how long the project is, you can let it encode in the bg while you set up your project, build the buttons etc. It's all the same encoding engine, whether is is done in compressor or dvdsp. I find it much faster to use compressor then to take to dvdsp becaue you can use quickcluster.
Now a couple of questions for you: what sort of footage are you using and what are your fcp sequence settings?

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yup, I can confirm this problem -- you can't use a font that's activated using something like Suitcase Fusion -- I've tried double clicking the font and installed it into fontbook, no joy. I moved the font into my font library (root) and still no joy.
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*Under 30 minutes, often waaay under.

Im having problem with the dvd quality, I'm using compressor to convert the video fils from apple prores to mpeg2 .It doesn't matter how long my video is even if its just 5 minutes I'm getting cut edges in the video , does anyone have any idea ?

Im having a problem with the dvd quality, I'm using compressor to convert the video fils from apple prores to mpeg2 .It doesn't matter how long my video is even if its just 5 minutes I'm getting cut edges/lines in the video specialy if i have titles it comes up really bad , I took the same video to a friend of mine who have PC and he uses Encore , did the encoding there and it was just fine no problems! BTW I tried using doferent setings in compressor from CBR and VBR I even pushed up the setings to 8 or 9 BR and still no luck !
does anyone have any idea ?
Thanks in advence ...

Let's focus attention on just the Sony. (What model and what resolution are you shooting?)
For now, I'll assume you're shooting 1080i.
Take a representaive clip into a new sequence. Add a title.
In your sequence, make sure field dominance is set to Upper.
Set render settings to Pro Res 422.
After rendering, export QT self contained.
Import into Compressor (I'm now referring to v3.5).
Select the 90 minute Best quality DVD preset.
Open frame controls and turn on (click the gear icon). Set Resize filter to Best.
Submit burn and check quality on TV.
Good luck.

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I normally don't use compressor to export my movies because I know it takes a little bit longer and I'm usually in a rush. I seem to be a bit more organized these days so I thought I'd give compressor another try. Holy Moly!! It has been two days now that it's been exporting a 20 mins movie... In final cut I can export that same movie in less than 3 hours. It doesn't always do it and I do use compressor for transcoding all my files into prores first and that is usually pretty fast. But when I send something from FCP to Compressor it is just painfully slow beyond a reasonable explanation. Anyone have any ideas on how I could make my compressor faster or what could possibly be causing compressor to take more than 2 days to export a 20min movie?? It's a very simple movie without any effects or crazy stuff... in prores. Shouldn't be doing that to me!

there is a great solution for this,
it's extremely fast (4 simultanious conversions, extremely large batch lists, click & run immediatly)
and best of all:
YEAH IT'S TOTALLY FREE
where I came from
I needed to batch convert Canon 5D footage (33GB!) to Apple Pro Ress 422, didn't work at all:
Compressor didn't work, took me days, didn't respond, terrible, Apple ruined it.
Quicktime 7 Pro opening it by hand, one by one, worked pretty fast though,
but no batch functionality, not going to do the hand job...
But there should be something possible one might think if the handjob is faster than the batchjob.
Adobe Media Encoder crashed with such large amounts of data, no go eather.
But MPEG StreamClip did it for me, even better, faster, more settings, cropping, de-interlacing, audio-settings, all the things you need. You even can repair your Time Code. I use StreamClip since the beginning. Works flawless on Apple & Windows:
solution
download it here: http://www.squared5.com
It's worth sending the maker money, food, drinks & flowers since he did a job for free that Apple couldn't come up with. Please reward this guy! This works for me since the very beginning.
MPEG StreamClip needs to be in every filmmakers toolbox.
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list view in MPEG STreamclip:
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Render fast, then render slow

Perplexing.
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Having an odd situation. Project in FCP 4.5 the audio is sync'd just fine in FCP export using Compressor and the audio is delayed about 5 seconds...so the video footage starts and about 5 seconds later the audio starts. Now, in the same project I have other footage and exported the same exact way without issues - I have no idea why this particular footage would be an issue! Because Compressor is exporting these files with the audio and video as separate files I am seeing this issue when the file is in DVD Studio Pro - but again none of the other files that are being placed on this DVD are having audio alignment issues...so this is not making sense.
I am not 'new' at this but I am no expert either - my main gig is audio - so I could really use some help.
Any suggestions? I am not sure what other information someone would need to help so ask away.
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Hello
I made a dumb mistake and shot some footage in standard 29P (my other cameras were set for 24P)
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Here's a screen shot;
http://www.locationstudio.net/Compressor-1.jpg
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Hello again Patrick
I guess you've been quite busy, but I appreciate your replies.
Thank you for your help and reply - I'm trying to understand your suggestions - please bear with me
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