Using Dynamic Link for projects cut in Premiere and effects in AE.. Rendering Question..

Hello,
So this baffles me. I've been working a lot in Premiere CC lately with ProResHQ green screen material. I send the sequence or individual clips using After Effects by right clicking on the clip in Premiere and selecting Create After Effects Composition...
So I do my thing and when it comes time to render, I select render from IN to OUT in Premiere and wait. Now here's my question. If I select render in Premiere, it will be very sluggish until I click on the After Effects icon in my dock which brings the app to the foreground again. For some reason, this will dramatically accelerate my render speeds in premiere after I re-select the AE app. Why is this doing this?
I'm using a new Mac Pro trashcan tower 3.5 clock speed. 64GB ram. Dual D700 graphics card. I am using a USB3.0 drive for my editing and the internal drive on the tower for the scratch. I'm getting a Lacie 1TB little bigdisk thunderbolt2 that will be my prime scratch and video location for future stuff.
Thanks for your help -
R

Generally speaking, there is no 'one & only' proper workflow. Just keep in mind the following:
- not all effects and transitions are properly translated when travelling from PrPro to AE;
- in Dynamic Link scenario PrPro communicates with AE projects via single instance of headless AE, which creates a bottleneck. See this good old thread on Dynamic Link workflow, pay attention to Todd's comments;
- since AE allows to set a DI as a proxy to dynamically linked comp, with reasonable amount of dynamically linked comps in PrPro project you can enjoy the best of both worlds, instantly switching between a DI and dynamically linked comp back and forth with no needs to replace anything in PrPro timeline. Test on your own with which amount of dynamically linked comps setting DIs as proxies still work. For my rig test 30 min sequence built out of 935 dynamically linked comps, which are just source footages in their own comps, hence, the equivalent to rendered DIs set to proxies, takes around 27 hours to render, while 30 min sequence built out of the same 935 source footages renders in real time.

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