Using GarageBand for classical music

We have to set up a series of "clips" from Classical Music - Brahms, Beethoven et al - for classes to be taught at a summer school for Adults. We were recommended to use GarageBand. We were told you could go to the section we wanted - (music downloaded to I-Tunes) - and then do a start of the section move it to the end of the "section" and then save it as a "Track".
We are considerng buying an IPAD - as we have only a NANO - and can't see the screen.
Please advise.
Thank you.
Ann

Thank you for resonding. We were told at Best Buy all we would need is GarageBand. So - I appreciate your honesty that this appears to be not what we need.
The situation is as follows. My husband will teach in Aspen, CO this summer to Elderhostel people. Back in the days of drop the needle this was easy. But now - everything is digital. And, so he has been downloading music to ITunes. He wants to go to a section of a piece of music (say - within the 2nd movement and play where the "horns" come in. And, then go to another section within the 2nd movement to show the change in tempo and "feeling". And, be able to play that. And, he can't take the time of "fast forwarding" and hoping he stops at the right place. Once he has set these up - probably 40 to 50 start and stops for 6 lectures - then he would transfer everything over to IPAD.
We will purchase one -as we have wanted something small and portiable which has wifi.So we can access our emails and the WWW.
Does any of this make sense now? Is there MAC AP which would do what we are looking for. This is what Best Buy kid said we/he could do.
I do appreciate your respondingto me.
Thanks,
Ann

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Thank you for resonding. We were told at Best Buy all we would need is GarageBand. So - I appreciate your honesty that this appears to be not what we need.
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I've been loading my entire CD collection onto my iPod Classic (about 300 titles). My collection is all over the board, but a lot of it is classical music.
With classical music, I'm having a problem neatly organizing my titles. Often, with classical music, there are multiple "artists" (performers, conductors, etc), but we only have one artist field in iTunes. Of course, I can list multiple artists in the "artist" field, but that makes a mess of things.
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*Grouping tracks into albums*
Excuse the long post, but hopefully covering all the bases (that I can think of) will help you fix the other issues you are likely to run into as you try to organise your library.
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Thanks Neil, for trying to help me put. I actually figured out how to use the notes. I couldn't believe it worked. I was disappointed to see my notes "cut off" as I guess it has a 4000 character limit, I believe it is. Maybe I'll do a search for itunes software on google and try to figure it out. I don't know if the itunes software is free. You know, not for nothing Neil, but I'm suprised an IPOD classic costs over $250.00 and all they give you is a quick start guide. You have to go to the internet to find a copy of the features guide. That's like buying a new car and not getting an owners manual with it. Odd. Thanks again for trying to help me out.

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