Using iMovie '11 with iPhoto '09

Now that you can buy iMovie '11 separately from the new App Store, is it safe to assume that it's perfectly compatible with versions of apps from earlier iLife suites - eg. iPhoto '09?

It works fine. I just downloaded iMovie 11 from the App Store, and made a couple of short movies/slideshows using iPhoto 09, the previous version. Everything seems to be ok.
The fact that I only had to pay $15 for iMovie alone was great.
If there weren't a rule against speculation, I would speculate on how low the price of other video/photo applications might go. I really advise folks to check out the App Store, there are some real deals there.
Hugh
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Using Image Shack with iPhoto '08

Hi, I just recently purchased a MacBook Pro (will be doing up-to-date; I was fully aware ) and I have a question about iPhoto '08. When I go to upload pictures to Image Shack I used to (iLife 2005) go to finder, then pictures, the iphoto library, then 2007, then to the file, select it, and upload. With '08 it is no more. I only have the option of selecting all 11 GB of iPhoto. Surely there must be a way other than searching the file name to find a photo in the finder!! (I was also wondering if there is a way to use iMovie HD with iLife '08. It is really a huge pain using the new iMovie).
Thanks a lot!!

See TD's treatis on file access. It describes several methods of accessing files for use outside of iPhoto. There's a 3rd party application,iMedia Browser, that interfaces with iPhoto, Aperture and any folder on the HD for viewing and selecting photos, i.e. Option-drag the photo to copy it to the the desktop.
Do you Twango?
TIP: For insurance against the iPhoto database corruption that many users have experienced I recommend making a backup copy of the Library6.iPhoto database file and keep it current. If problems crop up where iPhoto suddenly can't see any photos or thinks there are no photos in the library, replacing the working Library6.iPhoto file with the backup will often get the library back. By keeping it current I mean backup after each import and/or any serious editing or work on books, slideshows, calendars, cards, etc. That insures that if a problem pops up and you do need to replace the database file, you'll retain all those efforts. It doesn't take long to make the backup and it's good insurance.
I've created an Automator workflow application (requires Tiger), iPhoto dB File Backup, that will copy the selected Library6.iPhoto file from your iPhoto Library folder to the Pictures folder, replacing any previous version of it. It's compatible with iPhoto 08 libraries. iPhoto does not have to be closed to run the application, just idle. You can download it at Toad's Cellar. Be sure to read the Read Me pdf file.

Anyone using iMovie 6 with OS 10.5.3

Anyone using iMovie 6 with OS 10.5.3
I am now using iMovie 06 and iDVD 08 with OS 10.5.2 on a MacPro (working fine).
I would like to here from a 10.5.3 user before getting 10.5.3
Thanks.

thanks Bengt.
I've never done video editing so this is new to me. was surprised at how easy it was with the test video, in this case, being a "flipvideo camcorder" the first step is taking the video clips and then making them into a movie - hence the need for imovie 6.
I will have to now actually read the instructions for doing the next step of editing. initially just wanted to see if it worked with the FLIP cam. now I can have fun learning something totally new.
first think I'm going to do is check what format iMovie6 saves the movie in. the clips are AVI. The tech said they could be saved to another format, but haven't gotten that far yet.
thanks
Sue

Is it safe to get OS 10.5.6 when using iMovie 06 with iDVD 08?

I use iMovie 06 with iDVD 08 with OS 10.5.5.
Is anyone else using iMovie 06 with iDVD 08 successfully with Mac OS 10.5.6?

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here, me.. I do,... here, it's me!!

How can iMovie deal with iPhoto video better??

Hello,
My 10 year old son has really taken a liking to home movie creation with this digital camera recording video clips. The regular digital camera that records video clips by default imports clips as .avi into iPhoto.
He then uses iMovie to find those clips in "iPhoto Videos" in iMovie. He then creates the movies and shares it to iTunes to put on his iPod Touch. Here lies the problem. He is filling up my hard drive! His user account iPhoto library is 65g and he does not have a tremendous amount of videos but when I reveal in finder to show the details of an iPhoto video it shows the folder (year and month) and I see other related folders that go along with this video. Although his videos are usually 5 minutes he speeds them up or slows them down with other effects and I think that is swelling the iPhoto Library with some of these folders being up to 2g each.
What is the best workflow?
I tried putting his entire iPhoto library on an external but when running iMovie some the the project lost links to the associated events. Don't forget these events right now are stored in iPhoto because it is from a digital camera, not a camcorder.
Option 1:
Is there a way to bypass the import of video into iPhoto? Each time the camera is connected it imports to iPhoto. If I got a card reader and we took the SD card out and then imported would iMovie take over or would iPhoto still import if video and stills are on same card?
Option 2:
Import normally to iPhoto, then manually drag video clips to separate folder and 'import' them into iMovie as separate events. BUT then we have to remember to go back into iPhoto and delete those videos. That would put the video into iMovie and store it there and not into iPhoto. What a lot of work?
Option 3:
Buy a small Kodak video web recorder and will iMovie take those in as videos?
I am assuming that storing these things in iPhoto, editing in iMovie, is creating this clutter. Please advise if this is the root of my problem. Why have these relatively short video clips consumed my iPhoto library? I think it is the effects, speed up movie ( he likes to make the voices sound like chipmunks and speed the songs up) that is creating addtional associated file in the iPhoto library.
I think it would be better to run independently in iMovie and not have all this associated with clips stored as iPhoto Videos?
I have 4 gigs left on my 250 gig HD.
ANY help would be appreciated!!!

Importing into iMovie isn't the problem. My pal seems to be under the impression that footage transferred from the camcorder directly into his PC using Vegas (which apparently saves it as .avi) is of higher quality than footage transferred to Mac via iMovie that's then copied for him as .dv files.
I always thought that since .dv is the native format for the camcorder, then that's the original, raw material.
So, my question is really whether when this guy is playing back and editing in Vegas, if the footage transferred to his computer directly and saved as .avi is really better and sharper -- or whether Vegas is simply is tweaking the .avi footage for optimal display in a Windows machine.
In other words, once the final, edited footage is saved, will a .dv file be worse than an .avi file.
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Using iMovie 09 with stereo pairs?

Talking to the geniuses at the local Apple store, it seems clear that iMovie 09 saves Ken Burns pan/crops to the images, not as separate data. This makes it difficult to create identical moves on matching stereo pairs, as the camera pans and crops would have to be exactly the same for the right and left views of the pair.
I'm thinking there's a work around for this limitation but I need to learn more about how iMovie saves its files.
Consider the case where a transition and pan/crop is created for successive right view images, then this is exported as a Quicktime movie, then iMovie is closed. If it is possible in Finder (not in iMovie) to substitute the left view image source files for the right view image source files, using precisely the same file names, then when iMovie opens again it would not know the difference and could export a left view Quicktime movie.
But I can't investigate this hypothesis because I can't find the source files that iMovie uses. Performing a swap out with the original files has no effect (at least, I saw no change in the thumbnails and the playback when using well marked test files. So are there hidden copies of the source files that iMovie uses? And if so, how do I locate these so I can swap them out?
I hope I'm making myself clear here. When I explained what I was trying to do at the Apple store today, the geniuses required several reiterations before they got it, because my intent is so unconventional and they had no reference point. But they did get it, as far as using iMovie as it was designed to be used, and said, no, you can't do this with iMovie because swapping out images within the program removes any Ken Burns pan/crops you have set for them. And there is no way to numerically set these parameters so they are identical in a new movie to those in a different movie.
I didn't ask them about a workaround that would fool iMovie when it is reopened into thinking it is using the same images, but I'm asking here. If I know how to locate those source image files, I can do the rest.
Or am I completely missing something that should be obvious?
(There's software for Windows called ProShow Gold that allows saving camera movements separately from images, and this is used for making stereoscopic slide shows with Ken Burns pan/crops. But I want to do this on a Mac.)
Thanks.
SMcQ

Karsten,
Thanks for that link! I think your arrows will point me in the right direction.
In my effort, the images for stereo projection are placed side by side as a pair in a shared frame, 2800x1050 total resolution. Quicktime Pro can make these and show these, and also a free stereo avi editor called Stereo Movie Maker for Windows. For stereo 3D from start to finish, it is important to be cross platform proficient. Of course, the Mac can make this OS switch, but I'd like to see more stereo 3D options in Mac native software, because right now, there aren't any. Our projection software is a custom build by programmers at UC Davis and our projection system runs from an Intel Mac Pro feeding dual Hitachi projectors.
I made a movie of a slide show with iPhoto, using 19th Century stereocard views, but wanted to take the presentation into Ken Burns territory with camera moves that are coordinated between the right and left views. I think iMovie 09 can do this with some, as you say, (ab)use. Hackers are the bleeding edge, right?
Our stereo theater is at Lake Tahoe, Incline Village, Nevada, within the UC Davis Tahoe Environmental Research Center located on the Sierra Nevada College campus. The building is too new to see on Google Earth (or Google Earth imagery is too behind to show a building four years old).
http://terc.ucdavis.edu/education_outreach/educationoutreach.html
Thanks for your help!
SMcQ

Possible to use iMovie HD with Yosemite?

Just upgraded to Yosemite and was extremely bummed to find that iMovie HD is not compatible. I much prefer it for simple projects. Any way to use it in Yosemite?

I'm surprised to find this crew of iMovie HD loyalists because in OS 10.9.5 Mavericks I've had nothing but grief with this app.
I know a large number of people using iMovie HD 06 successfully with Mavericks and Yosemite. I probably made 100+ movies with iMovie HD and Mavericks and never encountered a problem.
Using Yosemite requires the workaround below.
Yosemite has a bug that incorrectly identifies iMovie 6 (a.k.a. iMovie HD) as not compatible. iMovie HD works fine with Yosemite.
Below is a Yosemite workaround that many use until this bug is fixed.
Find iMovie HD in your applications folder.
Right click on it, and select “Show Package Contents”.
You will then find a folder named "Contents”. Open it. Then open the folder named "MacOS”.
There you will find "iMovie HD". Double-click on this, and iMovie HD will launch.
Please report the bug to Apple, the more reports, the sooner it will get fixed.
https://www.apple.com/feedback/macosx.html
You may be doing things with iMovie HD that I do not. I know many that keep a dedicated computer with Snow Leopard so they can continue to use iMovie HD without risk.

I want to use iMovie 6 on my new MacBook Pro running Lion 10.7.5. It won't download. Can I download Snow Leopard instead and use iMovie 6 with that older OS?

I have a MacBook Pro I recently purchased 'cause my old G4 just couldn't output my video films properly. My new MacBook Pro is running 10.7.5 OS Lion. Don't like iMovie 11 and want to use iMovie 6. It won't download on Lion. Could I download Snow Leopard (deleting OS 10.7.5) and use iMovie 6 then? I saw a previous thread that said that could be done.

AppleMan...I have the same iMac you have...i-7 16GB with a SSD....just bought it second hand and it is about 1.5 years old....it was maxed out with upgrades when the original owner bought it. It was also restored back to factory settings prior to me taking possession.
I am making home movies in iMovie 11....max length 30 minutes or less. I am totally new to this editing. I am using HD footgage filmed from my Hero GoPro 3. I am finding that the movies that I am creating are skipping, staggering, hanging up etc...usually where I had transitions. I am certain I have enough power and memory in my iMac, so what's the issue? I read one of your other posts about optimizing each event or clip to 1080p? Is this what I need to do for every clip I import? Can I do this for all the clips at once on import? I also read that I may need to export the movie to quick time for smooth playback??
Any help you can provide would be appreciated!
Sincerely,
Matt
PS=How do I e mail you directly here in the posts? I went to your profile but didn't see any "e mail" or "contact" member button to click on.

Using kodak C360 with Iphoto

Has anyone used the Kodak C360 with Iphoto? The camera is not on the "approved" apple list, but it seems some people in the discussions have still had luck with some cameras working.
Thanks

appledesire:
I don't think it will work with iPhoto even if you use a card reader since it uses the Smart Digital memory card. It seems that support of that card format has slipped based on all of the users reporting problems with cameras using that type of card.

How to use iMovie 08 with Drobo FS? Drobo shows up in the Events Library but with the yellow triangle.

I have an iMac and a Drobo FS. The iMac can access the Drobo FS but iMovie does not allow me to select it as a storage location. The Drobo shows up in the Events Library but with the yellow triangle. I am running iMovie 08. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!

As far as I know you cannot use a Drobo FS with iMovie.
For iMovie events the storage drive needs to be formatted as "Mac OSX Extended - Journaled" this is the HFS+ file system.
The Drobo FS uses the EXT3 file system, and it cannot be changed.
Very annoyingly this means that iMovie can only be used with a drive that is using the HFS+ file system.
I have a Drobo FS that I use with both PC's and Macs - and I love it. Sadly I cannot use iMovie with it. So I purchased a seperate Hard Drive - A G-Tech 3 Tb - and this works fine with iMovie.
As far as I know the FS Drobo's are the only ones that cannot be formatted to HFS+.
I don't know why Apple designed iMovie like this, but I find it very frustrating.
If you want extra storage for iMovie, you will need to purchase a drive that can be HFS+ formatted.
Here is a link to the Drobo site with the various file systems that they support:
http://support.drobo.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/29/kw/file%20system
Good luck.

For the millions trying to use iMovie HD with Yosemite

A good discussion got started in iDVD about using iMovie HD (a.k.a. iMovie 06) with Yosemite.
I am attempting to relocate some of that information into the iMovie forum.
From jboolean:
Find iMovie HD.app, control click on it and View Package Contents. Open Contents/MacOS/iMovie HD. That seems to bypass the check.
From: hughmass:   ( says it works ! )
I can confirm that if one right clicks all the way through, and doesn't close the terminal window, iMovie HD works as usual. I put a mp4 into it, put transitions and music, and exported.   Nice discovery as there are a lot of folks who still would rather use this application from 2006. You know, so long ago.
Hugh
From Old Toad:
I tried that fix and it will open but won't work further than that. That method also opens the Terminal app which lists all of the bypasses and commands iMovie is skipping. If you close the Terminal window iMovie closes. The project file it creates is not a package as it normally is but just a folder.   It freezes up when you try to edit an audio clip. Then when closed it won't open the project again.
I suspect that there is some, “minor item” that is causing the iMovie HD problem with Yosemite.   Hopefully, some programming "super genius" will find a way to lead the rest of us out of darkness.

Karsten,   One of the things I really like about you is that even when others disagree with you about “best methods” you always have sympathetic answers and great explanations. Your technical expertise, and good humor is appreciated by me.
Quicktime will get obsolete. Now with Yosemite, the new kid in town is AVFoundation
I'm all for these improvements. I would be delighted, ecstatic, overjoyed, to change to a new movie editor if it was half as good as iMovie HD. As you know, the new iMovie can't even set chapters!     I use chapters with Podcasts and DVDs.   I also have Final Cut Pro X.   It can set chapters but it's got way more horsepower than I need.
When I first started using iMovie 12 years ago I never read the manual. Didn't need to. Starting with iMovie 08, I spent hours reading manuals and watching YouTube videos trying to figure out simple tasks. Sometimes I think I have a mental block because I started my video editing with real film using a razor blade and tape!
Nobody forces you, to install Yosemite nor to buy a new Mac
Eventually, you are forced to upgrade.   Let me give you an example. For a number of years I was using a very high-end analog to digital converter from Grass Valley. This device came with a terrific piece of software that would “clean up” old footage. I could do lightning and darkening, adjust colors, and filter out “Hiss”.   Well, that software was written for the old IBM processors, the company never updated it. So I was stuck using Snow Leopard (last OS to contain Rosetta) for a long time.
As time went on, I would purchase new software that would NOT work with Snow Leopard, so I was forced to switch to Mavericks.
However, you are correct in one regard; if you have a computer that is running the software and hardware that you like and you can dedicate that computer to that one task, yes, you can continue on, more or less indefinitely until your hardware breaks. I know people who are doing exactly that so they can keep using iMovie HD.
pretty nonsense to keep PROJECT-files
I don't keep my project files either.   I do my editing with iMovie HD, then I use iDVD to create a DVD image file (about 4 GB). That is the only item I keep.
My mind boggles at the multitude of video file formats available. But I know this, 20 years from now I will still be able to play a DVD or at least view the DVD image file.

When trying to use iMessage Share with iPhoto i got this message "couldn't communicate with a helper application"

I was trying to use imessage to share a photo with iPhoto. I go the message "couldn't communicate with a helper application"
My iMessage works fine for everything else. I am currently running yosemite and every app has been updated.
I restarted the macbook pro and i didn't resolve the situation. Is anyone else having this issue?
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Are you getting that message window after clicking on the "+" button to access your Contacts?
That's what happens to me. I know of now way to fix it.
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Why can't I use Snapfish anymore with iPhoto 08? I cannot see the library.

I recently upgraded to iPhoto (iLife 08) now when I try to upload pics to snapfish it cannot see the folder. I know it is there cause I see it in Finder. It shows all other folders but the iPhoto folder is invisible. Does anyone know a setting or a way that I can utilize photo developing other than the proprietary ones for Apple?
Please help. I feel like I've been swindled. (Seems Like something Microsoft would do)
Jeff

Jeff
You haven't been swindled, no one is forcing you to do anything.
With iPhoto 7 (iLife 08) the old iPhoto Library Folder is now a Unix Style Package File. The change was made to the format of the iPhoto library because many users were inadvertently corrupting their library by browsing through it with other software or making changes in it themselves.
It has never been the correct procedure to root through the iPhoto Library Folder - in fact on every version the documentation has expressly stated that you should never do so.
There are many, many ways to access your files in iPhoto:
For 10.5 users: You can use any Open / Attach / Browse dialogue. On the left there's a Media heading, your pics can be accessed there. Apple-Click for selecting multiple pics.
Uploaded with plasq's Skitch!
To upload to a site that does not have an iPhoto Export Plug-in the recommended way is to Select the Pic in the iPhoto Window and go File -> Export and export the pic to the desktop, then upload from there. After the upload you can trash the pic on the desktop. It's only a copy and your original is safe in iPhoto.
This is also true for emailing with Web-based services. If you're using Gmail you can use THIS
If you use Apple's Mail, Entourage, AOL or Eudora you can email from within iPhoto.
If you use a Cocoa-based Browser such as Safari, you can drag the pics from the iPhoto Window to the Attach window in the browser.
Or, if you want to access the files with iPhoto not running, then create a Media Browser using Automator (takes about 10 seconds) or use THIS
Other options include:
1. *Drag and Drop*: Drag a photo from the iPhoto Window to the desktop, there iPhoto will make a full-sized copy of the pic.
2. *File -> Export*: Select the files in the iPhoto Window and go File -> Export. The dialogue will give you various options, including altering the format, naming the files and changing the size. Again, producing a copy.
3. *Show File*: Right- (or Control-) Click on a pic and in the resulting dialogue choose 'Show File'. A Finder window will pop open with the file already selected.
All of these are faster and safer than rooting around in the iPhoto Library Folder
You might also check if Snapfish have updated their plug-in for iPhoto yet? If Snapfish haven't bothered to update their plug-in, you might want to check out many of the other services that have. Or are supported by an app like PictureSync. So, nothing proprietary there.
Regards
TD

Anyone use Time Capsule with Iphoto or Itunes

If so any issues.
What is the overall consensus with Time Capsule...good bad.

I'm using a 1 TB Time Capsule to run my wireless network and for storage as well.
Honestly, it *****. I came on here to post about if anyone could help me and saw your post. For storage it's incredibly slow, especially with iPhoto, it's completely ridiculous. Other things aren't that bad, like documents and such things. I think it runs my wireless network pretty good, but iPhoto and iTunes not so much.
If there's anyone that has some ideas as to why it would run so slow or what the problem is that would be some greatly appreciated help. I thought TC was supposed to be this "all in one" deal...

Using remote storage with iPhoto and a laptop

Hi,
I'm considering moving my iPhoto library to a NAS hard disk. I am accessing this from a laptop and wanted to see if iPhoto can do this. What happens when I'm away from my home network and I open iPhoto which it won't have access to the remote disk? Will that cause any problems?
Thanks
Mike

Mike:
I don't know how well iPhoto will work with a NAS HD. The library works best on a Mac OS journaled formatted HD. There might be some problems.
As for opening iPhoto when you're away from the external HD iPhoto will offer to create a new library since it can't find the external. Will you be connecting wirelessly to the library? iPhoto has not been found to work well wirelessly. Any drop out during the session can cause the library's database file to be damaged. If that happens you can recover if you have a recent backup copy of the library's database file, Library6.iPhoto. The tip at the end of my signature will tell you how to backup it up easily and frequently.
Do a search in this forum for NAS or NAS hard drive to see other topics concerning this issue.
TIP: For insurance against the iPhoto database corruption that many users have experienced I recommend making a backup copy of the Library6.iPhoto (iPhoto.Library for iPhoto 5 and earlier) database file and keep it current. If problems crop up where iPhoto suddenly can't see any photos or thinks there are no photos in the library, replacing the working Library6.iPhoto file with the backup will often get the library back. By keeping it current I mean backup after each import and/or any serious editing or work on books, slideshows, calendars, cards, etc. That insures that if a problem pops up and you do need to replace the database file, you'll retain all those efforts. It doesn't take long to make the backup and it's good insurance.
I've created an Automator workflow application (requires Tiger or later), iPhoto dB File Backup, that will copy the selected Library6.iPhoto file from your iPhoto Library folder to the Pictures folder, replacing any previous version of it. It's compatible with iPhoto 6 and 7 libraries and Tiger and Leopard. Just put the application in the Dock and click on it whenever you want to backup the dB file. iPhoto does not have to be closed to run the application, just idle. You can download it at Toad's Cellar. Be sure to read the Read Me pdf file.
Note: There's now an Automator backup application for iPhoto 5 that will work with Tiger or Leopard.

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