Using iPhoto Library in Aperture 3

Currently I have two separate photo libraries, each containing the same photos/videos in both iPhoto 11 and Aperture 3 (latest updates for both).
In order to conserve HD space is there any way I could eliminate say, the Aperture library and have it use the iPhoto library as default? Each library comprises 24K+ photos/videos; however, iPhoto is the only one which can play certain of the older videos, Aperture won't play them. There is roughly 80 to 85 GB in each library due to the amount of items. I could keep the iPhoto videos in iPhoto for reference purposes and remove same from Aperture, but that means I am still running with two libraries.
What would be likely problems if I were to remove my current Aperture library and have Aperture use the iPhoto 11 library instead? I am running low on HD space and don't wish to use an external drive to store one of the libraries; however, I do use an external drive for Time Machine backups.
I am wondering what problems I would encounter and if there would be any benefit to this scenario.
Perhaps some feedback would help me to decide. Either I can eliminate the iPhoto library or the Aperture library. Thoughts and recommendations would be appreciated.
Thanks.

Like Aperture the 'edits' are in the database. These apps work as follows:
Import an original
Edit it. Your decisions are stored as text commands in the SQL database. When you view the file it's essentially the original with your 'edits' overlaid on it. There is no edited file without exporting - that's what lossless processing is all about.
This User Tip
https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-4921
has details of the options in the Export dialogue.
The Aperture export dilaogue has even more options.
To dave you the bother of always having to export iPhoto automatically generates Previews. (In Aperture you can choose to generate them or not). What's a Preview? It's a sort of 'good-enough-for-most-things version of the shot, medium quality, medium size but missing lots of metadata - designed for use in scenarios like email, uploading and using in Word Processing.
Is your plan to back up the Library to the Cloud?

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Using IPhoto Library In Aperture

I would like to just use the IPhoto library and NOT create a duplicate library in Aperture. I had heard there was a way to do this and with Preferences I set the pointer to my IPhoto library and when i reopened nothing.
Any help?

When you go to File -> Import -> iPhoto Library, select "In their current location" in the "Store Files" option.
This would keep the files where they are, building a reference into the Aperture's library.

Error Message (Arrow and Exclaimation Mark in Yellow Triangle) Showing on Bottom Right of Some Photos after Merging iPhoto Library into Aperture

The strange thing is that some of these said photos with an error message have a normal thumbnail and can be opened fine, but the others (most of them) just have an empty space in the thumbnail as if the image can't be found.
I tried to Locate Referenced Files as Leonie suggested in https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3686982?tstart=0 but got this message 'The Selection Doesn't Have Any Referenced Files', so i presume that's not the issue.
In the thread mentioned above, Leonie mentioned something about not emptying trash. I did empty my trash recently, and started to think these images may have been poor quality ones i previously deleted in the iPhoto library … but that still doesn't explain why the error currently appears on some images which seem to work fine (these images are ok quality ones and there is no way i would have deleted them in the past).
Also - the 'Processing' message at the bottom of the browser seems to be spinning endlessly. I just left it for over 10 hours overnight and it's still going. Could this be linked to these error images which it's having a hard time finding/loading?
Quite baffled at the moment, and would really appreciate any feedback. TIA.
EDIT:
I just looked more closely. It appears that most of my folders have duplicates of the same image with exactly the same file name. And all the images with the error message have them on both duplicates (i.e. one on an image that has an empty thumbnail, and one on an image that's fine).
When i initially tried to import the library, it proceeded half way then failed. After opening the iPhoto library in Aperture first, and then doing the import again, everything worked fine. So, i'm wondering if the images with errors that are empty/blank may be the result of the failed 1st import.
What's puzzling is why they weren't overwritten (especially since all the file names are exactly the same). When importing the library, i chose 'merge' instead of 'add' when prompted, thinking that would solve it. Obviously not.
EDIT 2:
After reflecting on this, i thought one solution may be to:
a) Find all the error'd images that are empty/blank and delete them, and then
b) Find and remove all duplicates
So i followed Leonie's suggestion to create a Smart Album and use the 'File Status is Missing' rule.
But now, i see that there are images that i imported into Aperture months ago that have the same problem. And the new thing is that there are duplicates with errors where *both* images are visible (whereas for the iPhoto library i just imported, there were dupes where one version was blank and the other was visible and seemingly ok).
I'm really hoping there is a simple solution to this, and am awaiting some feedback before i try anything else.
NB. This is a super large (over 100GB) Aperture library that i am trying to consolidate everything into. It is Work In Progress and i was only going to back it up once the import of various iPhoto libraries was done. However, I'm wondering if it's better to just back up first - but if i do it now, the backup will include all these errors and duplicates. What would you guys do?

UPDATE 2:
The users in these 2 threads seem to have a similar File Status Not Found issue:
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4086569?tstart=0
https://discussions.apple.com/message/17757686#17757686
Followed Leonie's advice to look for the (missing) masters inside the Masters folder, and indeed, they were missing. So, that confirms the reason for the error message.
If this does not work, because you have managed originals, inside the Aperture Library, look for your originals in the Aperture Library Package. Select the Library in the Finder and ctrl-click, then select "Show Package Contents" from the pop-up. In the Finder window that opens, navigate to the folder "Masters". Your missing images should be inside; the folder is structured by date of import.
Of course, the question is - why the masters for these few images are missing, when the other images in the same project that were imported/merged at the same time are fine.
Trying to do the library import/merge from iPhoto into Aperture again. Fingers crossed. Will report back on the result.

I have Iphoto library in Aperture. Can I move the projects from iPhoto to aperture project by dragging?

I have Iphoto library in Apeture. Can I move the projects from iPhoto to aperture project by dragging (within the apeture program)? Is this making a duplicate of all the photos? It seems to work?? It then leaves my Iphoto library in apeture empty. I would like to do this just to reorganize the photos between the two. I feel that I may have doubles and would like all pictures of one year in same project in Aperture instead of going between both.

Tell us more, please. I am not quite sure, what you want to do and how you are using Aperture and iPhoto?
Which versions of Aperture and iPhoto are you using?
Do you have separate photo libraries for Aperture and iPhoto, or are you opening your iPhoto libraries in Aperture?
I have Iphoto library in Apeture.
Did you import an iPhoto library into Aperture? And now you are seeing a section "iPhoto Library" in the Aperture projects list in the Inspector?
Events and albums you imported from iPhoto (Import > Library > Some iPhoto Library) will be imported as Aperture projects and albums, and they will behave exactly as other Aperture projects and albums.
Can I move the projects from iPhoto to aperture project by dragging (within the aperture program)? Is this making a duplicate of all the photos? It seems to work?? It then leaves my Iphoto library in apeture empty.
You can drag images from any project in Aperture to other projects and that will move (not duplicate) the images and all its versions to that project. And when you drag all images from the project to another project, the remaining project will be empty and can be deleted. (Caution: Photos that you have hidden in iPhoto will not be visible in Aperture. If you are not sure, if you have hidden photos, open the library again in iPhoto and unhide all photos).
I feel that I may have doubles and would like all pictures of one year in same project in Aperture instead of going between both.
There should be no problem with moving all photos from the same years to the same projects. You can also drag projects in "Projects" view on top of each other. That will merge them.
You could also define smart albums in Aperture to search for images taken at a specific period of time:
File > New > Smart album:
Then, in the Smart Settings HUD, click "Add Rule" and add a Date or Calendar rule.
For example, to find all images taken in 2010, use a rule "Date > Capture Year is > 2010"
To search for Photos taken at a specific date or at several dates, use a "calendar" rule. This way, you do nat have to type the date, but can pick it from a mini calendar.

I have just imported Iphoto library into aperture library, can I delete now the Iphoto Library ?

Hi, I have juste imported Iphoto library into Aperture Library (did a copy) - can I delete my Iphoto library as I won't use Iphoto anymore ?
Thanks Hélème

Helene,
Both of those things you pointed out are mere *metadata*.
When you imported your iPhoto library, since you did a copy, your libraries are completely independent.
When I was in your situation, I moved my iPhoto library to an external disk and then went to the Aperture library to see how it behaved, even though i was 99.99% sure my iPhoto and Aperture libraries were separate.
nathan

IPhoto library into Aperture 3

I am currently importing my iPhoto 9 library into Aperture 3. When I pressed import, i was told it would take up 75gb of disc space, so I assume it is creating a duplicate of my iPhoto library.
So, I dont really want the two libraries, so can I delete ( or rather move to an external hard drive the original iphoto library?
Will I lose any data or does Aperture create a whole new library?
Allan

Allan,
When you import the default will probably be to store the photos in Aperture's library. This will make a copy of your photos and is called "Managed masters" in Aperture. As long as this what happens when you import, you will then definitely have 2 of each photo that you imported. It's not going to duplicate your iPhoto library per se (the library is a database that contains all the pictures and other goodies). Rather, it will copy each photo from your iPhoto library into a new library (the Aperture one).
You can also have Aperture use "Referenced" masters, by doing what gordonbmac indicated. In this case, Aperture does not manage the location of your masters. They will be wherever iPhoto has them. This may or may not be good depending on what you are going to do with your iPhoto library after. I.e., if you play with iPhoto and rearrange things, Aperture doesn't know that you moved the masters that it points to. It may mean that you will have to keep your iPhoto library around because Aperture is pointing to photos in it.
Your plan to move the iPhoto library to an external hard drive is exactly what I did when I imported my iPhoto library into Aperture. I kept it around for quite a while until I was satisfied that I didn't accidentally leave something in there that I didn't import into Aperture.
nathan

Just downloaded trial version -- don't see iPhoto library in Aperture and need to import selected photos-not entire library!

I just downloaded trial version -- don't see iPhoto library in Aperture and need to import selected photos to edit, not entire i Photo library! I read manual and it says:
Browsing and Selecting Images in Your iPhoto Library
You use the Aperture iPhoto Browser to review iPhoto images and import specific images into the Aperture library. The iPhoto Browser gives you a handy way of looking for certain images without having to import your entire iPhoto library.
So, where do I review the iPhoto images...there is nothing in there that says "iPhoto Library" Everything I see pertains to Aperture Library which of course is empty since I haven't imported (or dragged) any photos in there yet.
Also is tech support available for Aperture? I have Apple Extended Support and I sure would love it if I had individual help. I have a deadline --3 days to edit 300 photos and I'm a complete amateur. iPhoto doesn't have the capability to erase parts of a face (I need to contour the neck of a mannequin to make it proportionate to the separate head I put on top of it. I'm sure Aperture must have a tool to help me do that! At least I hope so.

where do I review the iPhoto images
File -> Import -> Show iPhoto Browser
I have a deadline --3 days to edit 300 photos and I'm a complete amateur. iPhoto doesn't have the capability to erase parts of a face (I need to contour the neck of a mannequin to make it proportionate to the separate head I put on top of it. I'm sure Aperture must have a tool to help me do that!
Sounds more like a job for Photoshop to me
if I decide to import entire iPhoto library into Aperture will it delete my iPhoto library?
No.
Regards
TD

Importing my iPhoto library into Aperture. Best way to avoid duplicates?

Hi,
I'm a new Mac user. I have been in the very slow and tedious process of transferring my photos from my HP hard drive to my Mac. I used iPhoto for a very brief time before purchasing Aperture 3. (I've used photoshop for years.) I haven't yet Imported or consolidated or whatever the correct term would be the iPhoto library into the Aperture library. I've been avoiding it because I know there are some duplicates. Mainly just a few "Events" from the last few weeks before starting using Aperture. Now with the new update, it seems like it's a great time to get it all consolidated into an Aperture library that I can use in both iPhoto and Aperture. What's the easiest way for me to proceed? I'm sorry for my lack of proper Mac terms....I'm learning!
Thanks so much for your help!
Christy

Clear as mud??
If you want to see all your images - those now in your Aperture Library and those in your iPhoto Library- then you need to merge both Libraries into one Library - I'd import your iPhoto Library into the Aperture Library.
This combined Library will be compatible with both Applications.
To merge your iPhoto Library into the Aperture Library do the following:
Make a backup of your current iPhoto library (libraries)
Upgrade to iPhoto 9.3, if you have not already done so.
Open your iPhoto Library at least once in Photo 9.3 to upgrade the Library.
Unhide all hidden images. You cannot unhide them when viewing the Library in Aperture.
Quit iPhoto.
If you have not already upgraded to Aperture 3.3, do it like this:
Backup your current Aperture library.
Rebuild the Aperture Database using the Aperture Library First Aid Tools: Launch Aperture with the cmd-options-key combination (⌘⌥) firmly held down, then select "Rebuild Database".
After rebuilding upgrade to Aperture 3.3 and launch Aperture to upgrade the Aperture Library.
With Aperture still open, double click your iPhoto Library. Aperture will prompt you, if you want to add or merge your iPhoto Library - choose "Merge". This will avoid importing duplicate images, as far as Aperture can tell that those are the same images - same filename.
You will have to weed out some duplicates yourself - this is best be done by sorting the images by capture date, then duplicate shots will appear side by side.
Post back, if you have more questions.
Regards
Léonie

How share Iphoto library with Aperture 3?

I would like to know if it's possible to share the iphoto library with aperture 3 without duplicate the photo. could be possibile to modify one photo with aperture and view the correction with iphoto? is it possible to have one library for the same and open it with one or the other sofwtare?
thanks a lot,
V.

Welcome to the Apple Discussions.
is it possible to have one library for the same and open it with one or the other sofwtare?
It's not possible.
iPhoto cannot understand the Aperture Library.
Some things you can do: Have two separate libraries pointing at the same set of photos.
Share the Aperture Previews with iPhoto.
But there is no way to have edits made in one Library show up in the other automatically.
possibile to modify one photo with aperture and view the correction with iphoto?
Aperture is not an pixel editor like Photoshop, you cannot use it as an external editor for iPhoto.
Regards
TD

Trouble opening iPhoto library in Aperture that has been transferred to an external hard drive.

I am having trouble opening my iPhoto library in Aperture now that it has been transferred to an external hard drive.
Versions being used:
MacBook Pro 13-inch mid-2010
OS X v. 10.9.1 Mavericks
Aperture v. 3.5.1
iPhoto v. 9.5.1
Order of events: got MacBook > took pictures > created an iPhoto library > upgraded to Mountain Loin > added more photos to iPhoto library > upgraded to Mavericks > purchased and downloaded Aperture > copied iPhoto library to a 750 GB WD My Passport.
When attempting to switch to this iPhoto library while using Aperture an error stating, “Unable to Switch to Library. Aperture cannot switch to the selected library because the file system of the library’s volume is not supported.” iPhoto can access this iPhoto library with no problem. What is missing? Any suggestion would be greatly appreciated.

“Unable to Switch to Library. Aperture cannot switch to the selected library because the file system of the library’s volume is not supported.”
Aperture 3.5.1 is checking for file system compatibility, iPhoto not always.
copied iPhoto library to a 750 GB WD My Passport.
Check the filesystem on your WD drive. Did you remember to format the drive for MacOS, before you copied the library there? It needs to be formatted MacOS X Extended (Journaled) to be used with any photo library. iPhoto may be able to open the library, if the filesystem is not supported, but you are risking data loss.
You can reformat the drive with Disk Utility, if the file system is wrong (after backing up your iPhoto library to a different drive). See:
iPhoto: Issues with FAT32-formatted drives
Format external drives to Mac OS Extended before using with Aperture
Regards
Léonie
You see the File System in the Finder's "File > Get Info" panel, when you select the drive in the Finder and use "File > Get Info" from the main menu bar or press cmd-I.

Sync iPhoto library in Aperture

Is it possible to sync my iPhoto library in Aperture.
I use my iPhoto library to view and show the images with or without slideshows and my Aperture library to edit the images.
It would be nice that the edited images will show up in iPhoto and the imported images in iPhoto will be visible in Aperture.

You cannot "sync" the databases. You can import the iPhoto library into Aperture, and you can use Aperture's JPEG previews to view Aperture files in iPhoto and many other areas of OS X.
Please, read the other threads on this. It's been discussed at length. Also have a read of the documentation... it details it as well

Can't find my iPhoto Library on Aperture

I just downloaded Aperture and couldn't wait to see my iPhoto Library in the new Aperture. But when I opened Aperture the photos shown in the Library are old photos (5,000+) that I have deleted from my iPhoto Library. In fact nothing newer than 2009 is showing. I tried to import my current Library but it wasn't even shown as an option. HELP!!! How do I get rid of the 5,000 old photos I don't want and get to my current iPhoto Library?

What are the system version and program versions (iPhoto, Aperture) you are using? If you are opening your iPhoto Library in Aperture your profile signature ( Mac OS X (10.6.3)) cannot be current?
Have you more than one iPhoto Library? It looks like you are viewing an older iPhoto lIbrary in Aperture? Or are you viewing the Trash, if you only see images that should be dleted?
Try the following:
Quit Aperture and open iPhoto on the iPhoto Library you want to view in Aperture.
Look in iPhoto's Trash. Check if there are photos in it, that you trashed accidentally. Put back anything that should not be trashed. Then empty it, if there are still 5000 photos in it.
Unhide any photos that are set to be hidden (marked by a red "x"). Aperture cannot reveal photos hidden in iPhoto.
Then use the command (from iPhoto's main menu bar): File > Open library in Aperture
Do you now see the same images in Aperture as in iPhoto? Your iPhoto events will be appear as projects.
Regards
Léonie

Will imprting my iPhoto library slow Aperture down?

My current Aperture library is 20GB and my iPhoto library has 11,000 images and is 32 GB. If I bring my iPhoto library into Aperture (and store it in the Aperture Library, i.e. non-referenced), will this cause Aperture to slow down considerably? I know I can always have multipule Aperture libraries, but I'd rather not.
I presume that using Smart Albums would be slower as there are more images to search through, but other than things like that what is your experience?
Thanks!
P.S. I'm looking for first hand experience, not theoretical
24" iMac 2.33 Ghz, Powerbook G4 1.5Ghz Mac OS X (10.4.7) Aperture 1.5.2

Yes it will slow it down, in my experience the stacks that are created by the iPhoto import for all the iPhoto photos that had modifications applied to them (of which I had a lot (since it did that for all my portrait photos automatically)
will cause major slow downs, so after import first try to reslolve all those stacks, remove duplicates (if you want to keep the master but also the modifications try to mirror the modifications made to the photo in Aperture and then toss the iPhoto edited..)

Need help adding originals from iphoto library to Aperture

Hey all,
I have a Macbook Pro 2010 17" i7 that I use for Aperture projects. Previously, my setup worked like this: I was running Snow Leopard, with both Aperture and iPhoto installed. I had all of my photo masters/originals in my iPhoto library, and I referenced them to my Aperture library.
I recently upgraded to a dual SSD+HDD setup and performed a clean install with Mavericks. What I would like to do now - since I don't use iPhoto anymore and I use Aperture exclusively for my photo projects - is to move, not copy, my iPhoto masters into either my current Aperture library, or a new one, if that's necessary. As a test run, I had already consolidated most of my photos before I did the upgrade, but it created many duplicates in my Aperture library: the master copy, and the referenced copy.
Once I get everything moved to Aperture, I will simply delete the iPhoto library, since I won't use it, and all the originals will now reside in the Aperture library. If anyone has any suggestions or ideas on how to do this, I'd love to hear them!

Thanks for the prompt and helpful reply Najinsky!
I originally imported the photos using "Import files" not the actual iPhoto library.
Well I did originally use the Consolidate Original menu item - I can confirm that - but I had done that as a test before I upgraded my hard drive and installed Mavericks.
Additionally, before I tried the Consolidate Original option, I had tried merging the iPhoto library to Aperture via the File->Import->Library and selecting the iPhoto library. I followed the instructions from the Apple KB article: http://support.apple.com/kb/ht5296
Because I merged the iPhoto library first, and then Consolidated, this is why I originally had duplicates.
Since the clean install of Mavericks however, I have selected all of my photos in Aperture and selected the Consolidate Original option, and it now appears that everything has changed from referenced to managed. I have also noticed that the Aperture library filesize has gotten much bigger, but the iPhoto library filesize has remained the same size. Wouldn't it have shrunk if I moved the originals to Aperture? I did select Move, not Copy from the Consolidate Original menu.

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I've had issues with my iPhoto "not responding" and as a result I am attempting to save my photos to an external hard drive using iPhoto library Manager but each time I start the program it saves some, and then when it starts iPhoto, iPhoto then goes into not responding mode. Using mac book pro, iphoto 9.5.1, and maverick 10.9.2. I have completed all of the photo library first aid steps several times, but it makes no difference, iphoto eventually goes to "not responding." Initial issues started with Time Machine back ups stopping because of iphoto. Thanks......

Do you have a back up?
If you're just trying to recover the photos you can do that much more simply:
Go to your Pictures Folder and find the iPhoto Library there. Right (or Control-) Click on the icon and select 'Show Package Contents'. A finder window will open with the Library exposed.
Look there for a Folder called 'Originals' or 'Masters'. (varies according to the version of iPhoto)
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