Using Iphoto or Picasa?

I am VERY new to the Mac world and Iphoto 09 came with my Macbook. I have been using Picasa for many years and have been looking at Iphoto with interest. I usually keep my pics in folders under my username and tend to back the whole thing up, knowing that I won't lose anything. From what I have seen, it appears that Iphoto can't watch folders for new pics like Picasa can. I seem to have to import everything which seems odd to me. I assume this takes up twice as much space on my drive as using Picasa alone? Can Iphoto be set to watch a folder or set of folders for new pics?

Not to be disagreeable, but.... I respectfully disagree
Ditto. However, there are some inaccuracies in your comments:
However, when one wants to manipulate photos and not store multiple copies,
iPhoto does not store multiple copies of a photo. It stores the Original and it keeps the current version of edited photos. These are not copies, they are versions.
or move files easily from device to device, iPhoto becomes an obstacle.
I’m not sure what you mean by moving files from device to device - but you can easily run an entire iPhoto Library from external disks. Perhaps if you clarify what you mean we can see if it holds up.
Part of the problem is the way iPhoto imports and stores photos, making them inaccessible to other photo programs.
Well this is also untrue. You can set any editor as an external editor in iPhoto. You can run referenced Libraries.
But there are a number of minor UI issues which seem very "unApple" to me - the fact that manipulations in albums don't show up in the library, for example.
Well this makes no sense at all. What do you mean by this? Edit a pic in an Album it will be edited in the Library view.
So, frankly, I’m not really sure what you’re talking about. By all means clarify.
Regards
TD

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