Using Ipod as a backup

I was concerned about backing up my music files when I realized that the Ipod itself was a handy backup. All of my music was on the portable harddrive known as "my Ipod". I went into the Apple store and wanted to talk to the technicians about using the Ipod as my backup harddrive. Man, was I surprised when they said, "oh, we can't talk about that". Great, I bought this fancy music playing thing and it becomes a great (and expensive) one way street. Then, the young technician said that there is a way to make the Ipod a "disc drive" he began to hold several things down on the wheel simultaniously that would allow me to write to my computer hard drive - thus makeing my Ipod a "backup". He was going so fast I could not catch it all. Plus, he said if you do that, something else happens.
Now, my CPU has crashed and I have $100s of dollars in music on my Ipod that I want to get back onto a new hard drive.
How is this done? Do I have to go to the "black market" to find this out?
Richard G.

Richard,
While you
i can
store a copy of your complete music files on the iPod if you have the space (in addition to the music stored there by iTunes), you have not created a true backup and are still at risk for data/music loss. I do not consider an iPod to be a music backup device unless that is all you are using it for (not sure why one would do this...).
A real backup is one that is
b independent
of its main source(s). This means both iTunes and the iPod. You need to have a separate backup source external to the PC or iPod: CD, DVD or external HD for a start. At a minimum, you need your music on your PC within iTunes, the iPod and one other medium. Many advanced folks here have multiple backups as none of the methods are completely fail-safe.
If you choose to delete your music from your PC (as some folks do), having two distinct backup sets is critical.
See: Buegie, "Best to Save iTunes Library Externally" #1, 04:39pm Sep 21, 2005 CDT for some backup ideas.
In the end, it's your data and time/money, so make the choices that fit your needs.

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I don't know if it is allowed or what you are doing wrong but I can tell you why it would be a bad idea. The iPod hard disk only runs briefly to load data off into flash ram and then stops. The music you hear is being played from flash ram. Time Machine use would be a lot more intensive than this. This causes two problems:
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Ok, I'm the last person on the planet without an iPod, but thinking of getting one.
I'm wondering if I can get away with using an iPod for both music and as my backup HD (instead of using an external FW HD) for my primary HD (this would get me halfway to justifying the purchase ).
Anybody using an iPod for both music and as a backup HD for their primary HD?
If so, what's the good, the bad and the ugly?
In doing some reading here, I see that the iPod cannot (should not?) be partitioned, so that's one strike against it.
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You're welcome.
Although you haven't seen many reports of iPod hard drive failure, it can and does occur as it can with any hard drive.
Maintaining a regular backup of all important data is very important if not the most important. It isn't a matter of if but when a hard drive has a partial or complete failure since none last forever.
I learned this painful lesson the hard way. Without warning, I experienced a complete hard drive failure on a G3 PowerBook less than one year old and the only time I've experienced this but it only takes once. Apple replaced the hard drive under the standard 1-yr warranty period but none of the existing data was recoverable. I didn't maintain a backup at the time and I lost everything.
Currently I use a 3rd party backup utility called SuperDuper! which creates a complete bootable clone backup of my hard drive saved to a Firewire drive. It includes a Smart Update feature which updates files that have changed only between backups.
I never want to go thru that painful experience again so I emphasize maintaining a backup when I see an opportunity to do so. Always better to be safe than sorry.

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I FIGURED IT OUT!!!!
what i did was plugged my iPod back up, then when iTunes pops up, drag your 'music' section to your iPod. (you have to be in your library, not in the iTunes store)
mine synched automatically, and i had no problem ejecting it or anything.
no error messages either. and all my music is now on my iPod!
thanks to my dad. (: lol. hope this helps someone!

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I recently got an iPhone to replace my much used iPod touch. I made sure to backup my iPod to iTunes before syncing my iPhone for the first time. When I finally synced my iPhone, iTunes gave me no option to restore my ipod from my most recent backup. It gave me the option to restore from older backups, but not the new one.
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I am using ipod touch 4g 8 gb, with ios6 software. It is getting very very slow even after i reinstalled the software. Apps like temple run 2 and subway surfers are getting stuck and it is very very slow.My ipod has 2.6 gb free space.

I am using ipod touch 4g 8 gb, with ios6 software. It is getting very very slow even after i reinstalled the software. Apps like temple run 2 and subway surfers are getting stuck and it is very very slow.My ipod has 2.6 gb free space. What is the problem. I am not getting to know. Even after i reinstalled these apps it is still getting stuck and it is very very slow. Is this what i get after paying so much money for ipod. Is this what i get very poor perfomance.

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Recently my computer was having issues so I used the system restore tool to bring it back to the state it was when I bought it. Before doing this however, I put some of my documents/games/folders on my ipod as a backup as I didnt have another hard drive available to me at the time. About 9 gigs worth of stuff. I tested to make sure I could access my files before I cleared my system. Within about two hours, after deleting the preloaded crapware and loading necessary programs I opened up my ipod as a disk only to find that I could not access my files. I am getting errors such as
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It is an 80gig classic 6g.
I can still access all of my music and movies that are on the ipod right now so I know that the drive is not corrupted. I have tried google to find help, but the results I get all have to do with copying music from the ipod or copying files onto the ipod rather than taking files from the ipod and putting them onto one's computer.
My computer is a dell B130
1.8ghz
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windows xp home edition service pack 3
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With Leopard coming out, how well would the new iPod classic work as an external HD for Time Machine? Would it be not as effective because it won't always be plugged in? Or would it work well? any feedback or speculation would be great!

Time Machine has not been explained in detail to the general public and developers are under NDA so who knows?
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