Using LR Develop settings as Photoshop Adjustment Layers

This would obviously mean a major feature upgrade and I don't know to which extent this is currently feasible in 16-bit, but I believe it would be a logical and important step forward at some point in the future.
Currently there is no efficient method of combining the use of Lightroom's built in Develop engine with a more refined Photoshop treatment. For example, if I want to apply one adjustment to a part of an image, I have to make two versions in LR, export both to Photoshop and merge them into one image. This method gets very impractical when you want to change many different settings for individual regions.
So the idea is that Lightroom shouldn't export photos to Photoshop as flattened images but keep all Develop adjustments intact and extensively modifiable by using the original source image as Background Layer and importing all LR settings as Adjustment Layers.
Many of the current Develop settings (such as color, tone curve, temperature...) could already translate to Photoshop easily, others (Shadows / Highlights) could be implemented via Non-Destructive Smart Filters. Spot removal could be rendered on a second layer on top of the background.
I think this would ultimately bring PS and LR closer together and allow a better workflow integration.

No single "Adjustment Layer" could ever duplicate all of Lighroom/Camera Raw's controls...ain't gonna hapen. But you CAN open in Photoshop, add a smart object using Camera Raw (easier to do with CS3 & CR 4) and have the same LR/CR rendering as a smart object...

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I like to place Photoshop files in Muse, so I can quickly edit a non-destructive format, instead of a JPEG. I recently noticed that some placed Photoshop files were markedly more dull in Muse than they appear in Photoshop.
Opening the Muse-created web page and comparing it with an open Photoshop file, it appears that Muse is not honoring my top layers, which are Photoshop Adjustment Layers.

As much as I believe that Muse is not really fit for purpose yet, I do not have the issues you are encountering with Opera.

CAN'T USE DEVELOP SETTINGS IN BRIDGE

HELLO,
i am using cs3 extended and my camera is a canon 40d. i downloaded camera raw 4.2 and installed it. i am able to see my raw images in bridge but am not able to use the develop settings tab under the edit tab. it is greyed out. so any help would be appreciated.
thanks
tim

You installed the Camera Raw plug-in in the wrong location.
Read the instructions again and pay attention to the location of the Library; it is NOT your user library but your ROOT Library.
Last but not least, download and instal ACR 4.6. All versions of ACR support all camera models supported by previous versions of the plug-in, and they contained unannounced, unpublicized bug fixes, enhancements and improvements. There's no reason to use an obsolete version like ACR 4.2.
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ACR Develop Settings feature not working

I have been using Bridge and Camera Raw to process images. I make adjustments from one image to many others using the Develop Settings feature. I don't know what changed or why, but when I now open a raw file in Bridge, Photoshop opens, and I seem to be working in Photoshop's ACR, instead of Bridge's ACR. When I click "Done," I go back to Photoshop and not Bridge, and the Develop Settings menu is grayed out. Right clicking doesn't work because Develop Settings is not even listed there. I have checked all the settings for Bridge and ACR and Photoshop, and I can't find anything that is different or not selected. I think my program might be corrupted.
Anyone have any ideas? I am running Windows XP 64 bit edition with 8gbs of RAM. I've been using this system since February with no problem. Help!!! I have work to do!!!

I found another post with regard to a completely different problem, but the solution suggested was to purge the cache for the folders, one by one. I purged the cache for the folder where I started having the problem, and now everything seems to be working well again.
I'm using CS3 with Bridge 2.1.1.9

Can I convert a series of adjustment layers into a single action?

Hello,
I have a Photoshop CS6 document with 20-some adjustment layers and would like to be able to apply their effect to multiple image files. I'm looking for a way to convert the series of adjustment layers into a single action so that I can batch process a set of images. Can this be done?
Unless I'm missing something, it appears that no trivial solution exisits. For example, there's no option that allows for selecting the adjustment layers, right clicking them, and choosing 'convert to action.' What I want to avoid is having to redo each adjustment layer just for the sake of recording an action.
Also, I understand that I can always "place" (i.e. drag and drop) the image requiring processing into the Photoshop document containing the adjustment layers, saving a merged copy as jpeg, and repeat... but such a manual method would border on insulting to this prowess of a program.
If anyone can get creative and suggest a method of recording an action that can make use of the document with the adjustment layers and a variable document that will be passed through during the batch process, I'm all eyes!
Many thanks.

_zeppelin2 wrote:
Hello,
Also, I understand that I can always "place" (i.e. drag and drop) the image requiring processing into the Photoshop document containing the adjustment layers, saving a merged copy as jpeg, and repeat... but such a manual method would border on insulting to this prowess of a program.
If anyone can get creative and suggest a method of recording an action that can make use of the document with the adjustment layers and a variable document that will be passed through during the batch process, I'm all eyes!
You have the other choice with drag/drop or duplicate where you copy the adjustment layers into the other image document. Target all the adjustment layers in the layer palette click on the first one the Ctrl|CMD+click on the others or if adjacent Shift+click on the last one to target all the adjustment layer then use menu Layer>Duplicate Layers... and use the pull down menu in the pop-up dialog to choose the other open image document.
You can of course record an action when you add all the adjustment layers then play that action on the other images. Twenty adjustment layer on top of an image seems a bit extreme to me.

Keyboard inputs to adjustment layers

So I've been ousted from my Mac and put on a Windows 7 Dell Optiplex 790 at work. My Photoshop 11 acts strangely when I try to use the value fields in the adjustment layers. When I call up a Brightness or other adjustment layer, I would usually use the shift key with the up/down arrows for quick 10% moves. This worked fine on my Mac but on the Windows 7 set up it does not! As soon as I click in the value field the cursor disappears and will not stay no matter how many times I click in there. Ultimately I use the scrubber or slider to set my values. It will however work fine in the shadows/highlights window, go figure. I became so used to working with my arrow keys to input values that this has become a real nuisance for me (I know a real First World problem). I also use a Wacom Intuos 4 tablet.
any ideas ? Thanks.

I just tried it (on my Windows 7 x64 system) and holding down the shift key and using the arrows causes +/- 10 unit jumps for me just fine. That's a Photoshop standard behavior across the board.
It's sounds like less a Windows vs. Mac thing, and more like something's wrong with your specific system.
Do you have any software running that watches the keyboard for special sequences - e.g., to do something to your desktop? Maybe some kind of hot key recognition in your display driver?
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Photoshop Elements12 - crashing when using Adjustment Layers. When opening the drop down menu there are 'boxes' for Black

Does anyone else have problems using the Channel Mixer?
This problem only started after the opening screen started to 'advertise' the advantages of moving to Cloud

Which operating system are you using?
Can you post a screenshot of what your seeing with the menus?
All adjustment layers cause pse 12 to crash or only certain ones?
The channel mixer adjustment layer isn't included with pse 12, so did you download an action for the channel mixer adjustment layer?
I never use the welcome screen since it seems to cause so many problems with the elements versions that have it, but rather make a shortcut to the editor and/or organizer and use those instead.

Develop Settings Adjustment

I hope its OK to announce a new plugin here. I know its not OK in the Lightroom forum proper. I wouldn't even do it here if it wasn't taking 2+ *******' months to push it through the exchange.
Please just let me know if you have an objection and I'll remove the post, rather than reporting it as abuse - thanks.
Also, this isn't self promotion - not only is this plugin free but all of my plugins are free - its just an offering to the community.
DevAdjust - Relative Develop Settings Adjustment, including support for presets and preset combos...
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No single "Adjustment Layer" could ever duplicate all of Lighroom/Camera Raw's controls...ain't gonna hapen. But you CAN open in Photoshop, add a smart object using Camera Raw (easier to do with CS3 & CR 4) and have the same LR/CR rendering as a smart object...

Imitating Camera Raw Calibration settings with Adjustment layers

Hi,
I do quite a lot color grading and color manipulation with Lightroom, Photoshop and Speedgrade.
Sometimes I like to use Camera Raw "Camera calibration" Settings to play with hues of the image.
I have yet to found a way to imitate or reproduce the look with Adjustment layers inside Photoshop.
I have tried with channel mixers and hue/saturation adjustment layers with no good results.
I want to use Adjustment Layers because then I can export the look as Lookup table for other applications.
Do you have any hints how i could achieve these kind of effects as in the sample image below?
Cheers,
Otso

This mode in Camera Raw / Camera Calibration adjusts the three primaries of the camera sensor.
This is equivalent to an adjustment of the chromaticity coordinates of the working space primaries.
These are not directly accessible in an image processing workflow. One had to modify the ICC profile
of the working space.
The purpose of this hue modification in ACR is (in my humble opinion) a weak correction of the camera
sensor primaries, perhaps because of ag(e)ing (though I never heard of).
This is the effect, but with unknown scale factor:
(neg) shift toward-----Original------(pos) shift toward
magenta-----------------red-------------yellow
yellow--------------------green----------cyan
cyan----------------------blue------------magenta
IMO, one cannot mimic this effect.
Best regards --Gernot Hoffmann

Trying to understand the use of adjustment layers

I think I am missing something here so thought I would bring it here for discussion.
I am learning to do Adjustment Layers and when I do an adjustment layer of levels and then another of hue/saturation it has no way of confirming my choices. If then want to do Shadows/Highlights it will not work change anything and I think it is because I have not confirmed the adjustment layer. What do I need to do after doing the adjustment layer to go ahead and do something else no as an adjustment layer on the photo OR is that impossible. How to make this work????
Sandie

An Adjustment layer effects all visible pixles in the layers below itself. So if you have a Levels Adjustment Layer and the Background layer below, the entire Background layer is affected. If you have another layer above the Background that is not an Adjustment Layer but only covers have the entire image space, the Levels Adjustment will effect the additional layer and the visible parts of the Background layer. If you add a second Adjustment layer, the effects stack. The lower of the Adjustments is applied first, the second is applied afterward, moving upward.
The Adjustment Layers themselves are transparent, they are a bit like a lens filter on your camera. Just like looking through a pair of sunglasses causes the world to appear darker, an a Levels Adjustment Layer can make the layers beneath it appear darker (or lighter, as dictated by the settings). But as Ken mentions, the strenght of using an Adjustment Layer, as opposed to using an Adjustment, is that you can always come back and change the settings later.

Why do JPEG files with LR Develop settings open in Photoshop Camera Raw?

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When you update the metadata for a JPEG, it is saved internally (there is no sidecar). Any JPEG with Camera Raw develop settings saved in its metadata will open in the Camera Raw plug-in in Photoshop. That is the only way for Photoshop to deal with the Camera Raw settings. Camera Raw settings can be added by the Develop module of Lightroom or from the Camera Raw plug-in dialog in Photoshop or Bridge. To prevent the file from opening in Camera Raw in Photoshop, you have to remove the develop settings and other metadata that ties the file to Camera Raw.

Adjustment Layers and Photoshop

Is it possible to import adjustment layers from Photoshop to use in a Premiere Pro CS6 timeline? This could open up some options for color grading.

http://helpx.adobe.com/premiere-pro/using/importing-still-images.html
excerpt:
Import a layered Photoshop file
When you import a layered file saved in Photoshop file formats, you can choose how to import the layers in the Import Layered File dialog box.
Note:
Some Photoshop layer attributes aren’t supported, such as special blending modes and the Knockout option. For best results, use basic transparency and opacity in Photoshop. Adobe Premiere Pro does support most Photoshop blending modes.
Premiere Pro imports attributes that were applied in the original file, including position, opacity, visibility, transparency (alpha channel), layer masks, adjustment layers, common layer effects, layer clipping paths, vector masks, and clipping groups. Photoshop exports a white background as opaque white, whereas it exports a checkerboard background as a transparent alpha channel when exporting to a format that supports alpha channels.
Importing layered Photoshop files makes it easy to use graphics created in Photoshop. When Premiere Pro imports Photoshop files as unmerged layers, each layer in the file becomes an individual clip in a bin. Each clip’s name consists of the layer name followed by the name of the file that contained it. Each layer is imported with the default duration you select for still images in Preferences.

Bug in Photoshop Action Player affecting some Adjustment Layers steps

I skipped CS4 and when I installed CS5 I discovered a nasty bug had been introduced is Photoshop's Action facility most likely in CS
4.
Action that add adjustment Layers clipped to the current layer that step is recorded Make adjustment layer with Clip.
Action that add adjustment Layers not clipped Step records as Make adjustment layer.
When a step Make adjustment layer with Clip is played back that is what Photoshop does.
When a step Make adjustment layer is played back what Photoshop does is look at the adjustment panel clipping icon state and and if
it is clip to current layer Photoshop does clip the adjustment layer to the current when is should be applied to all.
Many of the actions I have created add adjustment layer applied to all then later clip them to the current layer. These actions
genearate an error message if the Adjustment panel clipping icon is set to clip. Because the layer get added clipped, clipping the adjustment
layer it is not available. The strange thing is the layer is clipped the way I want it to be. But actions I recorded where I want the adjustment to
apply to all are clipped and the is no error message just wrong results.

To avoid the problem you described, i always leave
the Clip to Layer unchecked.
That way you never have to worry about those errors.
I just let the actions dictate clipped or not.
If i want to clip a layer, i just do it myself using the button circled in red.
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Problem Re-applying Develop settings after roundtrip to photoshop!

I am having a very annoying problem with re applying develop settings back to an image after touching up in photoshop.
Here is my basic workflow.
1 - import camera files to lightroom (Raw .cr2 Files)
2 - make slects and experiment with color develop settings.
3 - Rest all develop settings.
4 - send to photoshop for skin touch ups via edit in photoshop. OR export .DNG files for my touch up artist.
5 - Re import into lightroom via saving from photoshop to up date the copy it makes or just re-importing if it was a DNG i exported
6 - copy the develop settings from the original then pasting onto the edited version.
When I do this paste the develop settings the image gets totally blown out and is not at all close to the original develop settings I had decided on.
Note: before pasting the develop settings the touched up file is IDENTICAL to the reset original.
This is a Major problem for me and totally makes it impossible to match the original effect.
What am I doing wrong here?

So what should the workflow be?
Do your best on RAW in Lightroom, edit in Photoshop (16bpc, ProPhoto) for final touches that Lightroom cannot accomplish (retouch skin etc.).
if I do an effect then send to photoshop to edit and then back to lightroom is some of the color information lost? say if my effect is really blowing out the whites and I want to change it post photoshop edit am I able to get that color information back?
No, if you blow the highlight in raw, you cannot get them back from a PSD. The point is not to blow them if you don't wish to, then there will be nothing to recover fro a PSD. But if your artistic choice was to blow the highlights in a picture, then there's on difference when you blow them and no point in wishing
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Do the photoshop files have the same color range as the raws?
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Photoshop CS6 Info Palette & Adjustment Layers

I have searched but can't find an answer to my question so I thought this may be the best place to ask.
When I am using adjustment layers in PS 13.0.3 (mountain lion), I notice that the info palette is not giving me a before and after readout of the adjustment.
e.g. I add a curves adjustment layer and remove some cyan from the highlight end, I can see on screen that cyan is removed but the info palette gives me 2 readings, both the same. This can make it difficult if I want to remove an exact amount of colour. I have the info palette is set up the same as every previous version of photoshop I have used, 1st reading actual colour, 2nd reading cmyk. I know this is a bit difficult to explain so I have included an image showing the palette, CS6 on the left and CS5 on the right, same image, same coordinates. CS5 is showing that 4% cyan has been removed, was 18% now 14%, CS6 is showing what it is now.
I work in prepress and do a lot of colour correction for books and magazines so I need to know the before & after readings. Is this a bug/feature??

I'm having this same problem as well.
Two of our macs have this problem and two do not.
The two macs with this problem are:
Mac Pro
2 x 2.93 Ghz 6-Core intel Xeon
96 GB 1333 HZ DDR3 ECC
ATI Radeon HD 5770 1024 MB
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Mac Pro
2 x 3.06 Ghz 6-Core Intel Xeon
96 GB 1333 HZ DDR3 ECC
ATI Radeon HD 5870 1024 MB
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