Using Palm IIIc with OS 10.4.5 on Powerbook

Hi,
I just purchased a Palm IIIc on eBay but am now realizing that it may have been a mistake.
All I want to be able to do is run a couple of games (i.e. Sudoku) on it and keep my appointments organized.
I have a 15" AL Powerbook and will be using a Palm hotsync cradle with a serial to USB adapter.
Will this work ?

Hi KMoorehouse,
Well, I still have my Palm IIIx kicking around but I've never actually connected it to my PowerBook. First, you'll need something like this to change over the serial to USB. I'm not sure which version of Palm desktop software you're using (3.something or maybe 4.0). There are some known issues with version 4.0 which Palm has posted on their site here. I guess the only thing to do at this point is install the software, connect the IIIc (after you get a serial to USB adaptor) and try it out. Good luck.
Jrsy

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Syncing Palm IIIc with OS 10.4 on G4 Powerbook

I am not sure which forum to post this in but here's my question:
I recently purchased a Palm IIIc on eBay for a very nominal amount as I couldn't really afford a new Tungsten E2.
What I want to know if it is even possible to sync these older palm pilots with OS 10.4 ? I am getting a cradle with it but will need the 9 pin serial to USB adapter.
I read a few articles which showed that this could work and Palm's website shows you can download software for the Palm IIc....
BUT....can anybody here tell me if it will actually work or they have successfully been able to get it to work in OS X?
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Hi KMoorehouse,
Well, I still have my Palm IIIx kicking around but I've never actually connected it to my PowerBook. First, you'll need something like this to change over the serial to USB. I'm not sure which version of Palm desktop software you're using (3.something or maybe 4.0). There are some known issues with version 4.0 which Palm has posted on their site here. I guess the only thing to do at this point is install the software, connect the IIIc (after you get a serial to USB adaptor) and try it out. Good luck.
Jrsy

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I have been trying to sync a Palm IIIc with my Powerbook which is currently running Tiger (I cannot run OS 9 at all).
I bought the IIIc on eBay and it works flawlessly except for the fact that it won't sync. I can click on the hotsync square on the screen of the IIIc and get two options :
1. Direct Serial
or
2. IR (Infrared) to PC/Handheld.
It came with a cable that has the docking connection on one and and a dual splitter on the other - one lead has the serial (female) end and the other is a USB connector. I am able to charge it on the PB using the USB but likely only because it is a powered USB port.
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A friend is giving me a cradle from his old IIIe but it has a serial connection. I expect I will have the same problem with this cradle.
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I have been trying to sync a Palm IIIc with my
Powerbook which is currently running Tiger (I cannot
run OS 9 at all).
I bought the IIIc on eBay and it works flawlessly
except for the fact that it won't sync. I can click
on the hotsync square on the screen of the IIIc and
get two options :
1. Direct Serial
or
2. IR (Infrared) to PC/Handheld.
It came with a cable that has the docking connection
on one and and a dual splitter on the other - one
lead has the serial (female) end and the other is a
USB connector. I am able to charge it on the PB
using the USB but likely only because it is a powered
USB port.
I have tried two different serial to USB adapters and
so far, the Powerbook still is not seeing the IIIc.
A friend is giving me a cradle from his old IIIe but
it has a serial connection. I expect I will have the
same problem with this cradle.
Does anybody have any suggestions ?
Is there an adapter that can be used with OS X/Tiger
I have installed Palm Desktop 4.2.1 and have iSync.
Keiyana
Hi,
I have the same problem with my IIIc and powerbook G4 (no syncing with isync).I went ahead and bought the keyspan serial adaptor and still can't get the palm to sync. I also have desktop 4.2.1, running Tiger. I can get the palm to Hotsync with a PC via the standard serial port as well as the Keyspan serial adaptor to usb.

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Hi, and welcome to the Palm Community Forums.
It depends on the version of Vista you have (32-bit or 64-bit):
32-bit Vista: should sync with Hotsync cable using Palm Desktop 6.2 (Support & Downloads link above) along with free PalmHotsyncSetup utility from www.pimlicosoftware.com
64-bit Vista: since there are no 64-bit drivers, your only hope is to sync with Infrared beaming using an IRDA adapter ("dongle") on your computer, along with the above software combination.
Good luck, let us know how you make out with it.
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Tara,
I could have been you asking a very similar question, although I'm still not sure on the solution after some of the knowledgeable answers.
Like you, I have been using Palm Desktop to store 5 years of information, and I'm getting ready to buy the new iMac who reps tell me is probably not compatible with Palm Software anymore or will not and I should find other alternatives to store all my information.
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The last thing I use Palm for and the most important is under the menu of "Memos". For each category, I have created an alphabetized subject, like computers, legal, passwords, shopping (about 30 topics) and when I want to save important information, I go to that category and write as much or as little as a reference. I wondered "which" application I would use in order to create a similar way of looking up information on subjects.
I copied/pasted it all into a simple word document but that's not really made for what I want.
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If you have tried all resets including the "in-cradle" reset which supposedly resets the internal charging circuitry, then it seems to me you are facing a hardware problem...either internally with the Palm (i.e. the connector is bad or the battery is a goner), or the charging cradle and/or AC adapter are bad (seems unlikely, but possible).
Sending the IIIc in to Palm for repair is a bad option (like, $150 for out-of-warranty repair). You can spend a bit of money for a new cradle and/or AC adapter, and if that doesn't do it, spend more money trying to replace the battery yourself (go to www.pdaparts.com ) with no guarantee in either case that you'll fix it.
By the time it's all said and done, you might easily spend nearly what it would have cost you to buy something new...or, if you really like the IIIc, a replacement IIIc on eBay.
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Palm IIIc - is there any validity left?

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For us to help both of you, we need more information!
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