Using Photoshop Elements as external editor with Aperture 3: What are issues with requiring 8-bit image?

While I would do most of my photo edits with Aperture there may be times I would like to do special effects that a PSE might offer with layers. I am considering purchasing PSE 10 and was concerned with having to lose information by saving as an 8-bit image. Can anyone enlighten me of the circumstances when this would be of concern?
Thanks.

Can anyone enlighten me of the circumstances when this would be of concern?
If you had to do high quality printing larger than 8x10.
Before buying PSE trial Pixelmator and try GIMP. Note that GIMP (now v2.6) will have 16-bit per channel with v3.0.
-Allen

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I have set up iPhoto so that I can use Photoshop Elements as the external editor. When I select a photo and choose 'External Editor,' Elements comes up but my photo is not displayed.

Hi Toomuchtrouble000,
When you are making the settings from iPhoto, make sure you select Photoshop Elements Editor, which is present in Support Files, not Photoshop Elements 11, which is actually the Welcome Screen.
Please change that setting.
Hope this helps.

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I am currently trying out Lightroom 4 prior to (maybe) buying it.
I have set PhotoshopElementsEditor.exe as my external editor preference, but when I try to use it, I get the following eror message:- Unexpected error performing command; bad argument #1 to 'lower' (string expected, got nil).
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Thanks very much for your help. I have installed LR4.1RC and it has fixed
the problem.
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Workflow using photoshop elements as external editor

Hi.
I am very satisfied with aperture 3. I think it is an excellent program, and the organization of pictures are excellent. I love all the editing options as well. However I looked at some tutorials on photoshop elements 9, and really like some of the editing options there, so I am thinking of buying that program. I would like to use aperture 3 as my main photo editing program and organizing all my pictures via aperture 3. However on some pictures I would like to use elements to edit (remove unwanted persons and do on). As I understand it, i will have to set up aperture 3 so that elements will be my external editor. Will the changes I make in elements then be saved in the project library in aperture 3.
Can anyone with experience on this elaborate?

Gunfighter, how did you do it? The only options the "home" screen provides are (1) welcome screen opens on start, (2) organizer starts behind welcome screen or (3) editor starts behind welcome screen. Surprisingly, when I start Elements 9 on its own, the welcome screen doesn't show and the program immediately opens in the edit mode. However, when I'm in Aperture and go to external editor, Elements 9 immediately opens with the welcome screen and the picture never transfers from Aperture to Elements; very frustrating! Appreciate any help you can provide.

Use of Photoshop Elements as external editor for JPEGS

Hi,
Aperture (1.5.4) only gives me two options for file format if I want to use Photoshop Elements 3.0 as my external editor. They are TIFF and PSD. I store my images on Aperture in JPEG.
How can I edit them in JPEG format in Photoshop Elements and back to Aperture?
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MST

To stay in the JPG world, you would export from Aperture using the export function, Import into Photoshop, edit, Save or Save As JPG, then Import into Aperture. Then re-group by manually selecting the original and the edited version and Stack.
Do-able but not effective.
The issue with JPG's is cumulative errors leading to visible artifacts every time you save. Artifacts very visible in solid color areas such as sky or painted walls as contours and bands.
So, using the "Open with external editor ..." option allows you to round-trip as a PSD. Yes, it consumes incremental disk space vs. JPG, but the upside is substantially better quality. This is I assume why Aperture does not support JPG round-tripping, and I certainly wouldn't advocate the approach either.
Note: JPG is an old standard by technology standards, which is its blesssing (universality) and its curse (poorer than needed performance). JPG weaknesses are well documented and Microsoft of all people created a new format recently and submitted to the JPG committee for standards approval: I believe this has been granted, and camera manufacturers are already starting to adopt. Thus the days of JPG as the preferred lossy compression algorithm for image files are numbered.

Photoshop Elements 11 External Editor

I have selected Photoshop Elements 11 as my external editor within Aperture 3. When I select PSE 11, Aperture opens PSE but does not export the picture to PSE. Is there a solution to this issues?

Have you selected the PS Elements Editor and not another file in the PS Elements folder in "Applications"? When you are setting the external editor, make sure you dive into the PS Elements Support folder, where the application is hidden.
See Barbara Brundage's article:
http://barbarabrundage.com/2011/10/05/adobe-hide-and-seek-setting-pse-10-as-exte rnal-editor/
Regards
Léonie

When I external edit an aperture photo using Photoshop Elements 9 and then get out, the changes are not reflected in Aperture when I return - this used to work for me but doesn't seem to have for some time - help please?

Have used Aperture for some time - at some point this stopped working - not sure when
workflow:
click photo and elect to use the external editor (Photoshop Elements 9)
Copy of the photo is created in Aperture with the "O" badge and I am rolled out to Photoshop
Have to change the type to 8-bit in Photoshop to start making changes
When done and I exit I am prompted to save the photo
On returning to Aperture however the "O" badged photo does not get updated/reflect my changes
Other Things:
I can find a changed photo sitting in the Aperture Library using finder or Photoshop itself - so I know changes have been made a new file saved (TIFF).
I am wondering if I am missing some (new) preference such that the changes are not proerly being saved for re-display/storage in the Aperture Library
I am running Lion OSX at the moment but the behaviour was the same under Snow Lepoard versions.
Current version of Aperture is 3.1.3, Elements is 9.0
Any help/suggestions greatfully received

Try using psd. Some rerports indicate some confustion between the apps with TIFF. See:
https://discussions.apple.com/message/15921933#15921933
I cannot confirm, nor test, since I use PS CS5, and not Elements.
Ernie

Saving to Aperture after using Photoshop as an External Editor

I'd be grateful for guidance please. I use Aperture but sometimes use the external editor (Photoshop in my case). When I have finished editing in Photoshop what is the best way to get the finished photograph back into Aperture? Do I have to do another import or is there a way to get the saved photo as another version next to the original but including the work I did in Photoshop. If it is possible I would expect this to be a flattened image (ie not preserving Photoshop layers). Thoughts and guidance would be much appreciated.

The following series of events occurs without fail in aperture 3 and CSPS4:
I place a single JPG image on desktop. Then, in aperture, I create a new project named TEST. I then import this single JPG into aperture, making the choice to store the master on the desktop, rather than in the aperture library.
The JPG image now is in aperture in the PROJECT "TEST". I then select this single image in aperture and send it to CSPS4 to edit.
I can see aperture write a new image to the project with the same name as the JPG but the suffix is now TIFF (note two "f" in this suffix). This happens as photoshop is opening and i can briefly see the TIFF file in the aperture browser before photoshop completes opening.
I then edit the "TIFF" image in photoshop (which is by now completely opened) and SAVE (not save as...) it. Since I have previously chosen 16bit TIFF in the preferences I expect to get this file with the photoshop edits in the aperture project TEST. HOWEVER, the file is written with the suffix "TIF". Note that there is only one "f" in this suffix.
Now, on my desktop I have THREE files, a JPG, a TIFF, and a TIF. Aperture shows only 2 images in the TEST project, the original JPG and the TIFF. This TIFF was written by aperture before i edited it in photoshop. Apparently my edits in photoshop are in the file IMAGE.TIF, which is not in my aperture TEST project.
This has to be a bug regarding the suffexes "TIFF" and "TIF" This would explain why my "edited" file in my aperture project TEST shows no evidence of having been edited.
This has been difficult to explain clearly but perhaps someone has noticed.
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I have set up photoshop elements as external editor in iPhoto but I cannot get the edited photo to open in iPhoto. When I save the photo Elements asks where do I want to save it and iPhoto is not an option.

I have set up Photoshop Elements11 as the External Editor in iPhoto just as Terence Devlin said. However when I save the edited photo it does not appear in iPhoto. A drop down menu asks where I want to save the photo and I do not know what to choose. Also should I choose, "save" or "save as"? I should be really grateful for your help.

I suggest opening iPhoto and reverting back to iPhoto in the Preferences for photo editing. Quit iPhoto. Restart your Mac for good measure. Open iPhoto and again choose Photoshop Elements in Preferences as the editing app.
As far as editing, I don't have PE, but I have another editing app form the Mac App Store, ColorStrokes. I have been experimenting with using it for editing iPhoto photos and it works flawlessly. After setting ColorStroke as the editing app, I open a photo in iPhoto and click the Edit button in the menu bar below the photo. Color Stoke immediately opens with the photo and I complete my editing. When I have finished editing I choose to Save the photo, leave the name the same and agree to replace the iPhoto photo of the same name. I quit ColorStroke and the photo in iPhoto now has all of my edits from ColorStroke.
Should I decide that I prefer the original photo, I open the photo in iPhoto and choose Revert to Original in the Photos pulldown menu.

IPhoto 11 using Photoshop CS5 as external editor

I set the preference in iPhoto to use PS as external editor. It fires up PS when I click on "Edit" after bringing up the photo. I make my edits and hit save, then close the photo & minimize PS. iPhoto automatically makes a duplicate with the edits, which I can then upload to MobileMe & Facebook. However...once I shut down iPhoto, the duplicate edited photo disappears next time I fire up iPhoto. The thumbnail continues to show, edits and all....but when I click on it, I get the black box and exclamation point (no verbiage). I was able to download the edited photo from Facebook to my desktop, so I know the photo was saved into iPhoto at the time the edit was performed....but everything except the useless thumbnail disappears once I close. I cannot locate any info that will help.....anyone?

What you're experiencing is a bug with iPhoto 11. See my post in these topics: Re: iPhoto 11 bug when using external editor (Photoshop Elements) and Re: Editing in Photoshop.
Be sure to report it to Apple via http://www.apple.com/feedback/iphoto.html. The more it gets reported the more likely a fix will be issued.

Can I use lightroom as an external editor from Aperture?

Could I use Lightroom to do edits on an Aperture file and then return the edited file to Aperture for saving or editing further?

No. You could use Photoshop or Acorn or Pixelmator or Gimp as external editors as they are all "pixel" editors. But not Lightroom as it doesn't work the same way.

How do I get Elements 12 to work as an external editor in Aperture?

I can't seem to get (my TRIAL Version) of Elements 12 to work properly as an external editor for Aperture.
Whilst I can import RAW or Jpeg images into the Elements 12 programme from my system files I can't export files from Aperture to Elements 12 from the Aperture workspace.
Any help/suggestions would be appreciated
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My guess would be that you chose the logical file rather than the correct file as the PSE editor. You want this one:

Photoshop Elements12 as external editor for iPhoto

How do I get IPhoto to use Photoshop Elements12 as external editor, when I can not select "Application" under the advance setting, as suggested. It shows PSE12, but the photo's do not open up in that application. The application opens, with no photo. What needs to be changed, and how do I do it?

Using Photoshop or Photoshop Elements as Your Editor of Choice in iPhoto.
1 - select Photoshop or Photoshop Elememts as your editor of choice in iPhoto's General Preference Section's under the "Edit photo:" menu.
2 - double click on the thumbnail in iPhoto to open it in Photoshop. When you're finished editing click on the Save button. If you immediately get the JPEG Options window make your selection (Baseline standard seems to be the most compatible jpeg format) and click on the OK button. Your done.
3 - however, if you get the navigation window
that indicates that PS wants to save it as a PS formatted file. You'll need to either select JPEG from the menu and save (top image) or click on the desktop in the Navigation window (bottom image) and save it to the desktop for importing as a new photo.
This method will let iPhoto know that the photo has been editied and will update the thumbnail file to reflect the edit..
NOTE: With Photoshop Elements the Saving File preferences should be configured as shown:
I also suggest the Maximize PSD File Compatabilty be set to Always. In PSE’s General preference pane set the Color Picker to Apple as shown:
Note 1: screenshots are from PSE 10
Note: to switch between iPhoto and PS or PSE as the editor of choice Control (right)-click on the thumbnail and select either Edit in iPhoto or Edit in External Editor from the contextual menu. If you use iPhoto to edit more than PSE re-select iPhoto in the iPhoto General preference pane. Then iPhoto will be the default editor and you can use the contextual menu to select PSE for your editor when desired.
OT

Lightroom 1.2 has lost Photoshop CS3 as external editor

In Lightroom 1 I used Photoshop CS2 as external editor and lightroom has found it with the first choice of external editors.
In Lightroom 1.1 I used Photoshop CS3 as external editor and lightroom has also found CS3 in the first choice of external editors. CS2 was deinstalled.
Now I have Lightroom 1.2 and this version doesn't automatically find cs3. I have only installed lightroom 1.2 and have nothing done with the installation of cs3.
How can I solve the problem, because I want to have two external editors?
Achim Guhr
Germany

Try the following link. The upgrade to 1.2 lost track of CS3 for me too. I fixed it by editing the registry as outlined in the article.
http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/viewContent.do?externalId=kb401629&sliceId=1

External Editor in Aperture

I mistakenly selected using Lightroom as an external editor in Aperture. When I go back to preferences, I can't seem to make the Edit With field blank.
Or in other words, how can I change it such that I always edit with Aperture?

Just tried with my one, Go-to Aperture > Preferences > then when box comes up select Export, it says chose external image editor then all i done was to actually select Aperture itself. It works on my one Michael. Again dont leave it blank make sure you select itself. Hope this works

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