Using SATA drives...no luck!

I bought a couple of 500 gb SATA drives over the weekend thinking that I could use them with FCE. I think I'm assuming they work like firewire, and I'm thinking they don't.
* Can you daisy-chain SATA?
* Is there some kind of outboard E-SATA to Firewire converter? I'm using a Mac Mini until Apple comes out with something better. I also have an adapter for my MacBook pro, but can't get it to work.
So in the meantime I'm using the drives as USB 2.0 and just going off and doing other things around the house during captures, which take forever, as do rendering.
Tnx.
/john

Well, I would have put them in an enclosure that supports FireWire, esp. since the Mini has no eSata interface but does have FW400. Take a look at the OWC enclosures - they have a pretty good reputation. The Mercury Elite enclosure is a 2-drive FW800/400/USB2 unit; there is also a 1-drive Quad interface version.
Putting the drives in the G4 will work but you will need a SATA controller card. BTW, I'd think a 2x1GHZ G4 would be a pretty nice machine. How much RAM do you have? And what is the existing graphics card?

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The Operating system I'm trying to install is Windows XP Professional SP2
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I don't think any other pc information is relevant (it works just fine), if any more info is needed ill add it.
I've got a ticket on the MSI online support, but I thought I'd ask it here as well
Maybe someone has any idea how to fix this.
I'm not 100% sure if the pc is running the latest BIOS but I think so, I can check tomorrow.

Quote from: Fredrik on 06-January-10, 00:06:12
Not vital, but good to know: During boot-up, first BIOS screen, hit I think key F11 to make sure BIOS knows what to inform Windows. Also have a look in boot order, and only have the SATA disk therein.
More importantly: From the motherboard page it seems as if you have to use a floppy and load RAID drivers to get SATA disk work correctly. ...It has got a few years on it's back.
http://www.msi.com/index.php?func=proddesc&maincat_no=1&cat2_no=&cat3_no=&prod_no=177
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I remember when I first got it I had to use a driver on a floppy disk, however back then the newest disk you could get was Windows XP (SP-0 aka pre service packs)
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