Using the effect/distort&transform/transform... menu

Mac 10.7.4//Illustrator CS5.1 (15.1.0)
1) I had group consisting of several objects
2) I used the subject effect to create two copies spaced horizontally apart
3) Now I need one more copy of the original further yet horizonally,  selecting the original group and using the subject menu, or option dragging  I get three copies, I just need one.
4) If I option drag to make a new copy (and two extras) and then in the appreaance dialog I edit the the transform fx to 0 copies, I end up with one copy appearing where the first copy was, but selecting  shows all the selection blue outlines where the copied original should be (i.e. where I want this 3rd copy to be)   So I have ann object with blue selection anchor points but the object shows up far away horizontally.
I sure hope I have described this well enough for people to comment or help.
screen shot below
Selecting the isolated image on the right and the blue anchors show up to the left,  The place where the blue anchors are are the place I dragged the original group to.  The isolated image to the right is where the first copy from the subject command.  Editing the blue achor points does cause the 'image' to the right to change.   I've tried quiting Illustrator and reoppening the file

I AM duplicating an object that already has the effect/distort&tranform/transform effect applied.   Problem is I want want the first two copies spaced 1" apart, then the third copy like 4" away from the original.
I can duplicate this on a new file, just using a square and circle grouped together.   Use effect/distort&tranform/transform effect  to make two copies.  Then option drag the original some where.  In the appearnce window edit the transform effect to change to 0 copies. In this second group, is there anyway to eliminate the transform effect?  (deleting removes the whole object)
(I did find you can click the eyeball and not see the effect, i.e. the copies).
In my simple file I could use the white arrow and click on the copies and delete them, but not in my work in progress.
So is there a way to remove an effect after its been applied?

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