Using the Zalman CNPS7000B-AlCu + Zalman ZM80D-HP VGA heatsink on MSI-K8N NEO-Platinum

Hi,
Im buying a Athlon 64 system very soon (today or tommorow) and have the following question regarding the MSI-K8N NEO-Platinum. I know the Zalman CNPS7000B-AlCu fits on the mobo but it gets very close to the videocard. How close does it get? Can I still use the Zalman ZM80D-HP VGA heatsink? If anyone knows this please let me know.
Thanks in advance

Hi SirMurray,
I have the CNPS7000A-AlCu and the ZM80C-HP and the 7000A-AlCu is only about 2cm (maybe less) away from my graphics card. There is no way to have both the 7000A-AlCu and the ZM80C-HP (same goes for ZM80D-HP as Im 99% sure it is the exact same size as the ZM80C-HP) installed together without modifying the ZM80.
I was quite dissapointed about this cause I really wanted to use both so I tried to move the back heatsink of the ZM80C-HP but no matter what I did it just woulnd't fit with the 7000A-AlCu... BUT!...
What I did was to modify the ZM80 so that instead of the heatpipe going from the front to the back of the card as usual, it was turned around, so that the heatpipe now passes in front of the front-side heatsink. I then mounted the other heatsink (usually at the back of the card) so now both heatsinks are situated on one side of the card. Once I locked them in place with the little brackets they give you to join the two heatsinks it was done!
p.s. just in case you are wondering, the heatsinks are quite light so there is no real danger in having both placed on one side of the card. they don't pull the card to one side or stress the gpu mounting gear, etc. any more than having them installed normally. also, they are far enough apart when both on one side of the card for good airflow between them.
This all works for me and I haven't had any problems with it at all. It does mean that the whole graphics card + heatsink covers a LOT of PCI slots (4 I think). This is okay for me as I only have one PCI card (audigy 2) installed. Also, if you need to fit the optional fan for the ZM80 than you might run into trouble as the spacing between the heatsinks is smaller when using this setup than when they are installed as per zalmans instructions (front + back).
Hope this helps!

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Ive never been so happy to get that crap out of my system i tried everything to get it to run smooth i blamed everythign else in my system the memory the psu. Theres no stable bios ofr this board they all suck big time.
I pluged in my new dfi lanparty ut nf3 250gb turned it on it worked installed xp first time no problems at all i was amazed. Overclocked it from 2.4ghz to 2.58ghz without touching voltages in 10mins thats how easy it was. If i touched anything on my msi board it itself.
Good riddence msi

Was this the only MSI product you've tried? Could have just been a quirky board. It happens. Don't give up on a brand due to one bad experience. Try another MSI product if you get the chance. If you have bad results again, then form an opinion. Somehow though, I get the feeling there was a short between the keyboard and the ground. MSi still loves you and so do we.
Funny thing is, I bought that same DFI board before my MSI Neo....the DFI arrived DOA. RMA'd and second board ran for about 2 weeks before it died. Went to DFI forum and other review sites, it seems that DFI Lanparty boards have a problem with dying out of the blue. So...
Don't forget MSI when your DFI goes BYE as then you might be SOL. As for my opinion on DFI, they can KMA. :-*

*UPDATED 7/15/04* Complete guide to bioses, drivers, and needed files for the MSI K8N Neo Platinum

Complete newbie's guide to bioses, drivers, and needed files for the MSI K8N Neo Platinum:
Last Updated: Thursday July 15th, 2004
Bioses:
(In order of date released.)
1.1b3 - (Download)
- Pre-1.1, given to reviewers to use in their reviews and benchmarks.
- Less stable, but supposedly you get slightly better overclocks.
1.1 Official - (Download)
1. This is AWARD BIOS release
2. This BIOS fixes the following problems of the previous version:
- Memory always run DDR 200 when install single side DDR on DIMM2 & DIMM3.
- Windows 2000 can't format the RAID IDE HDD when plug in Promise 378 controller.
1.2b5 - (Download)
1.2b7 - (No Download Yet)
1.2b10 - (Download)
- First attempt to fix false temperature readings. Fixes it for some people with Newcastle cores and doesn't fix it for anybody with Clawhammer cores.
1.2b12 - (Download)
- Second attempt to fix false temperature readings. Fixes it for some people with Newcastle cores and some people with Clawhammer cores.
1.3b1 - (Download)
- Another attempt to fix temperature problems?
- Possibly fixes cold boot/power light issues?
1.2 Official - (Download)
1. This is AWARD BIOS release
2. This BIOS fixes the following problems of the previous version:
- System can't resume from S3 sometimes when install USB device.
- Support K8 Sempron CPU.
- Turn off keyboard LED in S3.
--Quick Guide for flashing BIOS, provided by MSI--
1. Create a MS-DOS boot diskette, then copy the the .exe and the bios file to the floppy disk. Both of these files can be found in the package you downloaded.
2. Press "Delete" and go to BIOS setup while computer bootup.
Check BIOS advanced features and see if BIOS flash write control is enabled
(This option must be enabled. If you can not find this setting, it means the BIOS can be
flashed.)
3. Boot from MS-DOS boot diskette and get a:\> prompt.
4. Type "", then press ENTER
5. The flash program will then ask "Do you want to save BIOS?", please press "N" for no. The when you see Press 'Y' to program or 'N' to Exit, please press "Y" to continue.
6. After flashing complete, remove floppy and reset the system .
7. Press DELETE or F1 when prompted at first reboot after flashing.
8. Load BIOS optimized defaults, then save settings and exits.
Drivers & Needed Files:
(Note: All these drivers are for Windows XP.)
Leaked Nvidia nForce3 Chipset Drivers Version 4.40
(Please use at your own risk, these are LEAKED drivers. Password for the .zip file is "ocworkbench rules". Also, you will need to rename the WinXP_2K folder in IDE to either WinXP or Win2K else the installer doesn't pick it up.) Thanks for the link Wonkanoby!
*NEW* Leaked Nvidia nForce3 Chipset Drivers Version 5.03
More leaked drivers? Seems some parts of the drivers are older and some are newer.
1. Windows XP Service Pack 1A (Web Install) -or- Windows XP Service Pack 1A (Full Install)
2. Microsoft DirectX 9.0b (Web Install) -or- Microsoft DirectX 9.0b (Full Install)
3. Nvidia nForce3 Chipset Drivers Version 4.24
4. AMD Athlon 64 Processor Driver Version 1.1.0.14
5. Nvidia Video Card Driver Version 56.72 -or- Omega Nvidia Video Card Driver Version v1.5303
(The Omega drivers are third party drivers optimized for gaming, most prefer these over the standard Nvidia drivers.)
5. ATI Video Card Driver Version 4.7 -or- Omega ATI Video Card Driver Version 2.5.51
(The Omega drivers are third party drivers optimized for gaming, most prefer these over the standard ATI drivers.)
6. Onboard Sound Driver (Realtek AC'97 Audio Codec) Version A3.61
It is HIGHLY reccomended that you install the drivers/needed files in the order listed above. Please note that there are two #5's because you either install one or the other depending on your video card, do not install both of them.
You will come across a problem here though. You can't install the chipset drivers without installing the Windows service pack and DirectX first, but the Windows service pack and DirectX installs need the internet to download files and you won't have working internet until you install the chipset drivers. Here's what I did to get around this. Instead of downloading the web install versions of Windows service pack and DirectX, download the full version and and put them along with all the other drivers on a backup hard drive or burn them to a CD, this way you will have all the drivers you need when it's time to install them and none of them will require the internet to download files.
Another note when installing drivers. Apparently the Nvidia chipset drivers also come with drivers for the onboard sound, but people seem to agree that the Realtek onboard sound drivers are better. When you are installing the Nvidia chipset drivers, just be sure to uncheck the box for sound drivers when it asks you which drivers you would like to install. Now you can safely install the Realtek drivers without any chance of conflicting sound drivers. Thanks for the tip Wonkanoby!

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Originally posted by RLiu818
You CAN install the nforce drivers BEFORE installing SP1. The only requirement to install the nforce drivers is DX9.
So is SP1 still recommended to install before the nforce drivers?
The installer still reccomends to install it beforehand for full USB 2.0 functionality... I would have put what you said in there but I wanted to keep it as simple as possible.
oh. IIRC the installer just says USB 2.0 will be fully functional after SP1 is installed. So after you install SP1 you go into device manager and u click update driver and it will auto search and update the driver.
Simplicity-wise, i guess its pretty much equal. It might take less preparation to just copy DX9 full onto a CD and install that first, then nforce driver, then right away you have yoru internet connection.
but i dunno.. i guess i will try it your way this time when my RMA"d board comes.
i will be fomratting and doing a fresh install later on today and will let you know if i come across any problems

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hi.
the line where 1394 was is now empty , i try everything i flash the bios and stuff
no luck for me???
it look like the 1394 onboard conroller is dead?

A thread here , from when 1.56 appeared:
MSI K8N Neo Plat Beta Bios 1.56
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OK people we need a thread where we can all show what kind of overclocks we are getting at the moment with our A64 boards, both for our interest as a resource, and anyone who happens to want to know what the boards can do with different hardware configs.
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DO NOT JUNK THE THREAD WITH QUESTIONS ABOUT YOUR HARDWARE PROBLEMS, KEEP IT SWEET AND SIMPLE AND PLEASE PM EACHOTHER IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS !!!!
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Does Thermalright XP120 heatsink fit on the MSI K8N NEO Platinum?

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Originally posted by Blake939
You Said: "Yes, but it will only fit one way. That is with the heap pipes down. "
Ozoneman,
What position is best for heat pipe orientation? Seem I read and article on it somewhere, but can't fine it now.
Thanks
I think with the heatpipes down is a good orientation anyway. However, Thermalright is saying with their heatpipes it doesn't matter anyway because they put some kind of stuff on the walls so there is a wicking effect.

Thermalright xp-120, Zalman ZM80D-HP and msi k8n neo?

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Hi
Not sure about the Thermalrights, but I know that the following do not fit together on my K8N Neo Platinum:
Zalman 7000CU
Zalman ZM80C
Both fit fine individually, but the CPU socket is too close to the AGP port for both to fit.
So I stuck with the stock AMD cooler with cool n quiet and the Zalman ZM80C.
Anybody else got a good recommendation for a good silent cooler that is not too fat or allows the fan to be mounted vertically on the opposite side of the AGP slot??
Jooppy

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I'm currently deciding whether or not to get the MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum, and I just have a few questions.
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5) Can ya'll share your experiences with MSI?
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Quote from: ExpertNovice on 30-June-05, 03:43:00
Is the MSI website http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p_spec.asp?model=K8N_Neo4_Platinum/SLI&class=mb where MSI names the board as "K8N Neo4 Platinum/SLI" incorrect? It wouldn't be the first time a typographical error occurred.
If not then the OP may simply have not had enough room to enter a complete description.
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Here it is
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1.Check your BIOS for flashing protection and disable it.
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https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=59711.0
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Using the Zalman CNPS7000B-AlCu + Zalman ZM80D-HP VGA heatsink on MSI-K8N NEO-Platinum

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