Using Tiger on Intel iMacs

From what I have read on these posts, there are quite a few people who are upset at not being able to boot into Tiger on the new Intel iMacs and I include myself in this group. I understand that the reason this is not possible is that the firmware doesn't allow this, only allowing Leopard to be run on machines that originally shipped with Leopard installed. It seems that a fairly easy solution would be for Apple to come out with an optional firmware revision that would allow this. It sure would make a lot of people happy, people who don't want to run Leopard for whatever reasons or by people who would like the flexibility of a dual boot system on separate partitions like I was able to do on my old PPC iMac G5 and I had the best of both worlds. I would like to hear the thoughts of other users on this issue , maybe if enough people were interested in this, Apple would solve this problem by coming out with this optional firmware revision. They could even charge a small fee for it and I'd be willing to pay. What you think?

Donald Kerian wrote:
Just bought the iMac (model identifier: iMac 7,1) last week from Apple Store. I assume that it's the newest model and it DID ship with Leopard pre installed which, according to all info I've been able to gather, installing Tiger on it would be impossible because of the firmware limitations.
What Kappy said! All intel iMacs can run Tiger.
The new ALU iMacs were originally shipped with Tiger (before Leopard arrived)
and the hardware hasn't changed since then, so there's no technical obstacle
to running Tiger on your hardware.
However, you will need an ALU iMac compatible version of Tiger -- and that's
available ONLY on the install disks that came with the pre-Leopard ALU iMacs
(because there has never been an Intel-compatible "retail" version of Tiger).
Call Apple and order a "replacement set" of Tiger install disks for your iMac.
Looby

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