Using Time Capsule for backup only (no Wifi)

I posted a problem in another thread ( https://discussions.apple.com/message/22500623#22500623 ) about conflicts with my Time Capsule and Comcast modem. Apple concluded that there was a hardware problem with the Time Capsule. I got a new Time Capsule yesterday since I couldn't get a refund on the old one. Because configuring the Time Capsule to work as a Wifi station requires such a hassle and I don't get any extra benefits in terms of speed compared to my Comcast modem, I now have a very expensive hard drive for backup. I have some questions about using the TC for backup only since I am running into some problems with the backup.
1. Does the TC have to be connected to my modem? It seems that when I do not connect the TC to the modem then I end up with the backup stalling after a few GB. Additionally, I end up with the flashing amber light.
2. If I do connect the TC to the modem it backs up but my WIFI grinds to a halt (likely a product of all the data pushing from the computer through the modem and to the TC). I should add that in Airport Utility I have turned off WIFI on the TC so it should not be interfering with the WIFI. If I do need to connect to the modem are there any tips for not messing up WIFI speeds beyond just backing up when everyone is asleep? I assume not, but it can't hurt to ask.
Thanks.

2. My initial setup showe various errors so I hooked the TC into the modem via the WAN port and then I was able to set up (WIFI off, Bridge Mode OFF) and those errors went away.
If I understand your last post correctly, you say that I should do a reset on the TC. Re-configure but leave the errors because backups will still work. Then I can leave the TC unplugged until I need to use it (which has the added bonus of limited flashing amber light). Is this correct?
You are setting up the TC in the wrong mode.. it has to be in Router mode.. Not Bridge..
You are worrying too much about the flashing amber.. it is irrelevant. You can select ignore and it will go green.
This setup is actually simple.
So here is what I suggest.
1. Factory reset the TC.
Just to get started from a clean setup. And that will put the TC in the correct mode.. ie dhcp and nat.
2. Plug it by ethernet LAN TC to computer. On the computer no other connection.. turn off wireless.
3. Just change the name of the TC to something short as it helps.. eg TCGen5
And turn the wireless off.
And ignore all the other problems.
4. Now setup TM.. I would also start clean.. do a fresh TM setup .. see A4 here.
http://pondini.org/TM/Troubleshooting.html
5. Run the backup. Maybe even erase the TC before you start so you are really doing a fresh clean backup.
The very first backup will start quickly and drop to very slow speed as there are heaps of very small files in the system.. these take a long time to process.. but as it proceeds it will speed up. Overall you should still average 50GB/hr.
6. Once you complete the first backup, later ones should be fine.. but do not expect them to work as well as when you do it hourly.. it does need to do a lot more work to figure out where the TM backup is up to.
I would like to get you to have another crack at using the TC properly in the network. When you are over the pain of all this.. and perhaps when apple releases a decent firmware update you can go back to it.. but I have another suggestion for setup. Get the above working first so you have a good first backup of all your computers.

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    Ok, first, I have been using Mac now for about 2 years and every little thing I do is much harder than advertised. I have yet to experience the mythical ease of Apple products.
    With that said, I was talked into buying this 2TB Time Capsule. Which right now seems to serve nicely as a very expensive paper weight.
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    I set the time capsule up to connect to an existing network. Which it did. Green light is on.
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    Is it possibly because I had used another backup disk prior and kept it? When I set the Time Capsule I selected to use both.
    I am at a loss. I am not a techie. And there are more options of use than the instructions cover.

    The problem is your method of connection I suspect.
    The TC was always designed to plug into the main router. It does not have to be in the same room but it has to be ethernet connected.
    Please post a few screenshots of the setup.. that makes it so much easier for me to work through it with you.
    Posting screenshots here is easy.. press the little camera and select the shot from finder.
    What I need is the summary page from your airport utility.. ie this one.
    Then click on edit button which I have highlighted and show me the tabs for Internet, Network and wireless. eg this is the internet. (show me the whole thing.. I have cut it off to keep it small).
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  • Possible to simultaneously use time capsule for backup + another router for internet?

    I will soon be moving into an apartment in which my landlord provides wireless internet through her own router.
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    Is it possible to connect to both my Time Capsule (for backup only) and another router (for internet only) at the same time?
    If not, can anyone suggest a good workaround?

    moskovit wrote:
    I've done a little research, and it looks like I might be able to wirelessly daisy chain the two routers, using WDS (wireless distribution system), assuming my landlord's router supports it, but that this would drop the speed of the internet significantly: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/2623802?start=0&tstart=0
    It works extremely poorly and the landlord would need to agree to it.. plus it would require use of WEP security which is hackable by children with internet hack kits in about 2min flat. Don't go there. Apple have made their products incompatible with most other routers. So any suggestion of a workaround will involve spending some money on your part.
    You could buy a airport express and plug that into the main router by ethernet.. again if allowed. Your TC can do wireless bridge to another apple product very well. Messy but could work. It is not that expensive to get a second hand AEBS and use that. You don't need the latest products but wireless range would be better in the AEBS than AE.
    So I'm still wondering: Is there another workaround?  Is there a way to get my mac to connect to my time capsule (for backup) and another router (for internet) simultaneously, or is that just technologically impossible?  If it's impossible, is there another solution?
    You cannot wirelessly connect to two different wireless devices at once on one client. You need to either have a second wireless client in the laptop.. for instance a USB stick which can be fairly tiny nowadays. It is just you need to find one with Mac drivers. Or the TC must have internet connectivity. You could get that by buying a wireless bridge, and using that in your room, with the TC plugged into it. Universal wireless bridge devices are fairly cheap, but can be a pain to setup. Look for products that work with the main router and use as fast a speed as possible. It can be a tricky setup as you need the wireless bridge working on one channel and the TC working on another. What I am suggesting is the WDS solution you found but using two different boxes to do it. And not using WDS at all, unless the main router is suitable, but rather universal bridge.
    The hassle of all that suggests to me,, I would go for the wireless stick, so your Mac laptop has two wireless clients.
    http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/iMAC-MAC-Apple-Airport-G3-G4-G5-OS-X-USB-WIRELESS-CAR D-/290538112833?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43a56bc741
    I have no idea if this works just to show you what I mean. Please do research it yourself.
    An ethernet connection to the TC is far superior solution albeit would require you to plug and unplug it.

  • Use time capsule for backup for HP Windows computer?

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    Apple does not offer Windows backup software.
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  • Setting up Time Capsule for backup only on existing wireless network

    I have a wireless network already set up with a NetGear wireless router. Cable plugs into router, router connected via ethernet cable to my Power Mac G5 desktop, plus 2 PC laptops in the house also connect wirelessly to the home network via this router.
    I want to set up Time Capsule as an external hard drive to back up all three computers -- I don't necessarily need to use it as a wireless router although i'm not opposed to that if it's easier to do it that way.
    When i try to set it up using AirPort utility, i get the amber flashing light. Airport utility is able to discover the device, and then always asks if it's OK to switch networks. I've tried both "switch" and "don't switch"; either way when i try to set it up, AirPort utility stalls out on "Reading Time Capsule Configuration"; eventually giving me the error msg: "Base Station Error: AirPort Utility was unable to find your Apple wireless device."
    All i want to do is mount it as an external hard drive so i can use Time Machine for backup, and be able to use it to also back up the PC laptops wirelessly. I need help in the following three areas:
    1. How should I be physically connecting my devices if i want to do this? Which cables go in which ports? There is only one ethernet port on the back of my G5. The G5 can connect to the router either wirelessly OR via ethernet cable. I've tried G5-->Time Capsule-->Router, G5-->Router-->Time Capsule, Router-->G5 PLUS Router-->Time Capsule, and I've tried every variation on the regular ethernet and WAN ports. What's the right way to do this.
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    sarah,
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    That is all you need to do.
    Then all the computers should see the Time Capsule.
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    Give that a try.

  • I want to use the Time Capsule for backup only.

    I picked up a Time Capsule thinking I could use it just for backups. So far, I've been unable to connect to it. I did set it up to extend my current WiFi network, but now I can't see it with Time Machine. What do I do to make the Time Capsule to function just as a wireless back up drive?

    OK, I tried this, what happened is that my iMac lost connection to the Internet while the Ethernet connection was active.
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    As stated, if you bridge the TC.. simply update it.. and plug it into the main router by ethernet. You should now be able to do what you wanted.. connect to it by wireless and use it for backups. The fact that it is linked to the network is absolutely necessary if you want internet at the same time as backups are running. The wireless cannot connect to two different routers at the same time.
    I'd like to know how do I not have it override my Wifi connection and allow me to access the hard drive? If I can't do this, I'll be forced to take the Time Capsule back.
    Please give me exact steps how to setup and use a Time Capsule just as a hard drive. Thanks!
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    The trick is very simple. Set ethernet manually not by dhcp.. do not set a gateway (router) or DNS for ethernet.
    You can also simply change wifi connection to the top of the list. Both of these are set in the Mac itself not the TC.. the TC can just run as router but with nothing connected.. and ignore the lack of connection.
    The end point of this process though is you have the TC doing what an external hard drive can do, better cheaper and faster. To use the TC as a backup device only connected by ethernet or wireless is a waste.
    Tell me what you want to do.. ie your preferred setup in the light of the previous discussion and I will give you all the screen shots for the exact steps to set that up. I will need to know what IP your current router uses.. and the dhcp range if possible.

  • Using Time Capsule for Backup Drives, Storage, and an iTunes Server?

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  • Using Time Capsule for backup storage as well as Time Machine back-up

    Just set up Time Capsule and used Time Machine to back up files. All working OK with new backups as well, but I need to transfer files from an external hard drive to Time Capsule.
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  • How can I use Time Capsule for backups and an external hard drive?

    I have a large file/program on my iMacs hard drive that is 62GB and I would like to keep only things I need on my iMac. I have a 2tb time capsule currently used for backing up. It has roughly 1.66 TB free. How can I move the 62GB program onto my Time Capsule and still use it for backups? Also, is this stable? And don't worry about backing the program up because it came on 8DVD discs.
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    1. Mount the Time Capsule as a drive and drag the application over to it. If the application requires system components, those won't be transferred; if those are only data files, you may be able to drag them over as well and then create a symlink or alias to a folder enclosing their current location.
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  • Can you use time capsule for your mac and have readynas backup your pc's on the same network

    Can you use time capsule for your mac and use readynas to back up your pc's on the same network

    Sure, that is trivial setup.. they both have different names and IP addresses.
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  • Can I use Time Capsule for Time Machine and a place to put my iPhoto Library

    Can I use Time Capsule for Time Machine and a place to put my iPhoto Library?

    Only if you partition the Time Capsure into two partitions, one for TM and one for the iPhoto LIbrary.  But you won't be able to backup that library as it will be on the same drive as the TM backups.
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  • Can I use Time Capsule for a server ?

    hi,
    i was wondering if I can use Time Capsule for a server.
    Let's say I have an ubuntu server, and I'm running some websites and web applications on it.
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    Patrick

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    +Is this feasible ?+
    Feasible, yes. Practical, no...unless you are willing to put up with very slow access to files that are on the Time Capsule.
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  • How to use time capsule for wireless back-up but not internet?

    Hello,
    I have a tower and recently a laptop at work. The tower is connected to our local network with an ethernet cable and the laptop with wireless. So, the internet connection is fine for both.
    I was hoping to use my time capsule to do time machine backups on my laptop. Do you have any advice on how to configure this? I do not want to use the time capsule to extend my Internet, as I believe my work I.T. would prefer to handle all access to their  network.
    Perhaps there is some documentation about doing this that you could point me to? I have not been able to find it.
    Thank you for your help.

    Your original question was How to use Time Capsule for wireless back-up but not Internet?
    There is no reason for you to connect the tower....or anything else...using Ethernet if your goal remains that same as you stated.
    If you are asking if you can backup the Tower using Ethernet, and not wireless, then you can connect the tower to one of the LAN <-> ports on the Time Capsule....not the WAN port.
    Yes, it appears to work without plugging into my tower.
    Correct, it will work.
    I just have to select the network that it created. Of course, I have no access to the Internet while this is happening and it can not auto backup, unless I am on that wireless signal.
    As I stated, that is the downside to trying to back up without an Internet connection.  You have to establish another network...and backup over that network.
    If you are asking if you can stay connected to the work network while also backing up to your non-Internet "private" network, that is not possible.

  • I want to install a new Time Capsule for backups. I also have a B box2 from Belgacom for the digital TV, so how do I install?

    Hi,
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    Just setup the TC in bridge.
    Assuming you are using Lion.. download the airport utility that has some utility.
    http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1482
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    Then plug the TC into the Bbox and just use it as wireless target for your air.
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    can i use time capsule for back up my movies and watching them with my bravia tv.
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