Using workarounds to use multiclip

I was given 5 dv tapes of a live event. Each camera recorded different parts of the same show at different intervals. I was able to import all the video and sync things up in the timeline. Audio was out of sync on the footage I captured form the camera that had line in and I corrected it in the timeline. Now I'm experimenting with exporting each video track so that all can be synced by their in points. It's working except when I create a multiclip it shows a split playhead in the viewer and when I drag it to the timeline audio is not linked with the video. I'm not sure how to fix this other than recapture the tape with 15min or less limit between files?
G5 dual 2.0 Mac OS X (10.3.9) ATTO UL4D, scsi raid

"It's working except when I create a multiclip it shows a split playhead in the viewer and when I drag it to the timeline audio is not linked with the video"
Is your audio selected on the correct camera angle in the viewer? (denoted by a blue rectangle around footage)
"Now I'm experimenting with exporting each video track so that all can be synced by their in points."
Do you have matching timecode on your source tapes? If so, how are you synching the video before making subclips?

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I hate to admit it, but I don't know what to do next. I have read through FCP user manual, all the pages on multiclips. I know how to do this that and the other, but I cannot figure out how to go from one camera to the other and have that information stay in the timeline. Maybe I missed a page or I'm missing a page... For example:
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Agreed. But I never use the numeric keypad for anything because, generally, FCP is not smart enough to know not to enter numbers. It would be so 21st Century if FCPX fixed all of that interface silliness.
Try installing the multiclip button bar. Also good for lots of fast shortcuts.
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Using the multicam keyboard, if I turn on num lock (fn F6) and use the numbers to switch (j,k,l,keys, etc.) the spacebar doesn't work to start playing the timeline. If I start playing in the canvas, the cuts (blue arrows) are not made in the sequence. Ideas/solutions to start play using the spacebar? Thanks.
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You have to have open selected (in the Viewer or Canvas), and you also have to have the multiclip playback selected in the Timeline window's RT pop up menu. make sure they are both set up that way.
Don't have a MBP here, but the spacebar shouldn't be deactivated don't think. the JKL keys still work though right?
If you intend to do this a lot, I'd look at a num pad addition to the laptop...
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Sorry if this has been asked before. My lame attempt at a search didn't uncover an answer.
I'm working on a project shot anamorphic with multiple cameras. When I match back to a multiclip it reverts each clip to 4:3 and when I edit into the anamorphic sequence it cuts it in as 4:3 and then I have to remove attributes (distort) and then it is fine. Also, if I cut to a differnt angle of the same mulitclip the new angle is 4:3. The assists are telling me this is a bug of FCP 6.
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Am I doing something wrong?
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Ideas for syncing 2 videos for use in multiclip

So, I shot a live concert with 2 cameras and am now attempting to use multiclip for the first time. There was some kind of hicup on one camera and when I capture the video from tape it comes in as 3 clips. The second camera I made a stupid mistake and hit standby once. So now I've got several clips and they are not synchronized. I want to use all the audio from the one camera and then multiclip some angles from the second camera.
In the beginning of the show there were several people taking pictures and they used a flash and I was able to use the flash to sync up the 2 video cameras exactly. Then I used multiclip successfully to edit. Now about 20 minutes into the show I've got pieces of video that are not in sync and no flashes to use to help me. Any ideas or tips on how I might be able to synch things up again?

That's the idea. The other thing you can do if you had a common timecode is set the AUX timecodes for the pieces and sync on AUX timecode when you build the multiclip.
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Converting codecs for use with multi-clip

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Not sure if I should post this here or in Compressor so please let me know!
I have recently completed a three camera shoot. Cam 1 and 2 were Sony pmw-EX1 cameras. Cam 3 was a Sony HD camera which used tape. The files I imported from Cam 1 and 2 are:
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x

Thanks for closing your own thread with a successful answer, hardly anyone does that around here.
bogiesan

Multiclip: nothing shows in angle viewer

Hmm, I've used multiclips before without problem, but now I'm stuck. I synced 2 video angles and a separate audio track. Then I added the multiclip to the timeline and opened angle viewer. The angle viewer is blank though--nothing showing. When I click on the timeline and play I see one clip (not in the angle viewer, but in the other view to the right of the angle viewer. Same if I click and play on the multiclip in events, I get playback of one angle but nothing in angle viewer.
I've got 2 angles checked and picture only (I've also tried picture and sound). Using FCP X 10.0.5

I'll try trashing prefs and let you know. I'm attaching a screenshot. Multicam clip is shown bottom left...I double-click on that, and the title of the multiclip shows at top of angle viewer, but nothing there as you can see.

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Hi there. I have been reading about the new multiclip feature in FCPHD5. Sounds as if it would be perfect for editing a performance music video with multiple run throughs. In fact it almost seems too good to be true. I was writing to ask if anyone has tried this and what problems they encoutnrered or what workflow they could recommend. I haven't used multiclip before (or editied many music videos either) and would appreciate any suggestions.
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capture offlineRT the whole tape, make subclips with an angle setting of each take. Then edit the multiclip in a timeline which includes the song as an audio track. I thought I would synch with inpoints manually set to the beginning of the songs first riff in playback (as there was no clapper on set that day, curse them)
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General advice for live performances:
1. Depending on a computer to make the only recording is a silly idea. Use tape or a minidisk. Take a line feed off the main board and record it on at least one of the cameras.
2. There is nothing that will substitute for missing timecode better than a good countdown. Insist the band develop a creative visual and aural timing cue that all cameras and mics can see.
3. The most important part of shooting a performance or a lipsync gig for mulitcamera assembly is preproduction. The bugs, glitches and gotchas are all well known and thoroughly documented on thousands of band blogs.
4. There is no excuse to go into a location shoot unprepared and carrying a solid backup plan for all of the stuff that will go wrong.
5. A full, all-camera, all-personnel rehearsal is a good idea.
6. The band's lighting guy knows nothing about video. Give him some help or give him the day off.
bogiesan

27" iMac won't play multiclips correctly

Hi All,
I am trying to use a multiclip sequence in FCp with my 27" i7, and when I start playing the sequence, everything looks fine, when I make my first cut, the image in the canvas and the preview freeze. The audio continues playing, I just see I still image. After a short time (10-30 seconds) the image comes back to where it should be and using multiclip works fine. The problem is that anytime I stop playing and start again, the same issue occurs.
In my very old G5 with a far inferior graphics card, I never had problems with multiclip.
Anyone have any clue??

For this current project it is stored on an external MyBook using USB. I have also tried doing multiclip using media on an external FW800 LaCie BigDisk and on the internal drive. All three ways provides the same issue. These drives are the same drives that I used on the old G5 without a problem.
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Where is Multiclip Display in the View pop-up menu?

The FCP user manual tells me to choose Render Filters in the View pop-up window and I cannot find this command (yes, I have already turned on the computer). I have my multiclip loaded in the Viewer with a filter applied to the active angle. However, when I edit the multiclip to the timeline, the filter remains at best on only one instance of the angle. My purpose is to have it applied to all the cuts of the angle on the timeline. Is it possible? I thought that if I follow the advice to render filters that I read in the manual the effect will remain on the clip.

I've spent weeks messing around with multiclips and effects, the manual doesn't seem to make any sense and when following it, it doesn't work.
As mentioned, the only way to get an effect on every clip in the sequence edit is to apply it to the master clip BEFORE you make the multiclip.
This maybe of no use to you as you've already made the cut, I found out the same thing after a similar 5 camera, 2 hour cut some years back.
If anyone has a beter way, I'm all ears!
When you say you can't use buttons, it sounds like everything is going right. The markers appear as you go and then when you hit stop, the sequence may take a while, but eventually it should update with all your shot decisions. Make sure you double click the multiclip in the timeline, click the canvas, use the sync menu (middle button above the canvas main screen-choose open) and then hit play and start cutting. I use that little ritual to make sure the multiclip is active, loaded and able to be cut.
Sounds like some corruption going on, have you done the obvious and trashed prefs etc etc?
I've found just a re-boot of the Mac often solves many multiclip issues.
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DVCPRO HD 3 stream multiclip - computer too slow, offline edit? How?

Of all my woes trying to get this project edited, I finally figured out solutions for a few problems I was having (preventing me from starting the edit). Now, let's assume I have everything ready...
I have 3 angles, all DVCPRO HD. When I multiclip and place in timeline, keep getting dropped frames on playback.
I've tried reducing RT as low as quarter framerate and low playback quality but I still get mixed results.
Is there a way I can do an offline edit using multiclips then online the footage once my cuts are complete? How?
Thanks!
Oh duh - 17" Intel iMac (1st gen of Intels) 1.83Ghz, 2GB RAM, 1TB GRAID2, FCP 6.0.2

FANTASTIC.
Great, quick article.
Let's give it a try...
AAHHHH! It works! Ha!
Ok (and I know you read a thousand threads every day), as noted in another post of mine, I have the nightmare of transcoding other footage taken from different cameras (at different resolutions and different compression [both hdv, one is 720p ftg, other is 1080i])
The DVCPRO HD is native 59.94
When I recompress for offline, I get the warning dialog about framerate of preset to be used mismatching footage I've selected. The new project/sequence will be set to OfflineRT HD (Photo JPEG) 29.97 The media I'm about to recompress, again, is 59.94 The offline clips retain the 59.94 framerate.
Edit into sequence, prompt to change sequence settings to match clip settings. I edited the clip and 3 stream (!!) multiclip into the offline sequence with the sequence set to 29.97 or 59.94 I see no noticeable difference in the look of the footage. I don't have an external monitor to test with but I imagine it wouldn't make a difference.
So what's my point? Oh, uhh, yeah. So the other two "footages"...Before I begin the edit, what should they be transcoded to? My guess:
-Transcode HDV footage to DVCPRO HD 720p60 in Compressor
-Results in 59.94
-Put the entire "online" media into master project
-Offline all footage for realtime project
-Edit offline in 59.94 timeline
-Did I mention the purpose of transcoding to match DVCPRO HD is so I can multiclip?
-Complete edit in offline project
-Online it.
A few notes...
-I don't have HDV to test w...oops, wait, I do. And, how convenient, it's 1080i! Nonetheless, I just did the Compress routine with some SD footage, looked like hairy sh...you know. But hey, that's what you'd expect. Mainly, you can see atrocious field separation especially on motion. Either way...
Just converted the 1080i ftg to DVCPRO HD and from master to transcode, they look very similar. There is a SLIGHT blur on the transcoded ftg but it will suffice (it'll have to)
-I offlined the transcoded 1080i-720p, looks like garbage but who cares? It's visible and plays back RT! Errr...when it's on its own in the timeline. Multiclip'd this ftg with 2 other DVCPRO HD offlined and, once in timeline, multiclip isn't playing back at all. Canvas shows the video, viewer doesn't. Each time playhead is stopped, viewer updates with current frames of each multiclip element. Yes, sync is set to open.
Also, canvas doesn't update when cut to alternate angle, continues showing the previous footage AND IT DOES register the cuts but canvas doesn't update. UGH.
-Restarting FCP. That didn't do it. The RT popup also doesn't give an option for multiclip playback. So...ahhh sugar. Found it.
-The sequence needed to be set to 29.97, not 59.94
-Now the question is, how will this affect the online? What will I online back to? Huuuuuhhhhh.....
Well, I did it anyway and set it all back how it was, the sequence framerate is 29.97 - Nothing looks off or weird after a render. HOWEVER...
-Does this mean I am doing it right?? Should the online be 59.94?
OK, I think I've babbled enough. Very close!!! Much closer than before, very helpful, thank you!

Multiclip angles disappearing

Hi I am running FCP 5.1 and I'm using multiclips either 3 or 4 angles.
I am experiencng at time the information for the multiclip disappears and only one angle takes over as a default.
Also I ma having different angles drop off and become black and unusable in the multiclip window.
Any help will be gladly appreciated!

Many thanks for that .. it seems obvious now you've told me!!
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Help pls with multiclip!

Hi I am using FCP 5.0.4, have had months of hassle free working on my Quad. But yesterday started trying to use multiclip, which used to work fine on a 2.5 dual incidentally, cannot get it to work properly. did the tutorial 3 times, read the manual main pages, trashed the prefs (plist) - altho to be fair the settings seem to stay after trashing so maybe doing something wrong there?
I make the multiclip ok get it into the timeline select open, but when I slect different angkles in the viewer it doesnt reflect in the timeline - and for some reason since trashing prefs when I make a selection in viewer of a different angle playout stops.
Please any suggestions?
P

Brian,
I want to thank you so much. You have completely solved the problem with the cut and switch issues - checking on keyboard layout showed you were correct - my keyboard was set to "switch" rather than "cut" . I made your recommended changes without trashing prefs and bingo everything works. I want to praise your analytical thought process.
Also, maybe I have found why my machine defaulted to "switch"? I am an expat Brit and did have my keyboard set to British English, whereas FCP's designers are of course American ....as soon as I started following your suggested commands I got automated messages telling me my keyboard layout was not set to accommodate them, so I changed it. Perhaps useful if sopmeone else gets this problem?
Thank you again, and another thanks to you and all the other editors who spend hours of their time selflessly helping others on this forum. May your God Bless You.

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