Using WSUS for Cluster Aware Updates and SCCM???

Can WSUS support SCCM and CAU(cluster aware update) from the same WSUS instance? E.G. If I have my SCCM infrastructure getting its patches from a server called SCCM01 lets say and the primary/central site is also on this box, can the WSUS instance on
this server support CAU or will that break SCCM? I ask because one of our admins did exactly this a few weeks ago and we end up having to reinstall WSUS. It could have been a coincidence but that WSUS instance had been running fine since it was built. Seems
kina strange it broke relatively quickly.
I've read plenty of sites that say to avoid meddling in the WSUS console once SCCM is installed but I can't find a specific technet article saying not to do this. I just built the 2012 environment and they're wanting to configure it the same way and I'm
refusing because I suspect it will break either SCCM 2012 or WSUS or both! Please if someone could point me in the right direction or offer some clarity I would very much appreciate it. So far all I've seen about CAU is that it does support SCCM and WSUS but
I can't find any documents saying what the repercussions of configuring CAU to use the same WSUS instance that SCCM uses. Thanks in advance. -KR.

Correct, ConfigMgr is unaware of cluster updating or the WSUS capabilities around clustering.
Also correct that direct WSUS administration after WSUS is integrated with ConfigMgr is a bad thing. There is no specific article that says don't do "stuff" in the WSUS admin console but it is eluded to in the TechNet docs (http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/gg712696.aspx) and
I do know that it is specifically unsupported. I also know from experience that it will/can cause issues.
Cluster patching with ConfigMgr can be done using multiple techniques including maintenance windows, Orchestrator, or other automation tools but there's nothing definitively built in
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can we said Cluster-Aware Updating is replacment of WSUS ?
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please need help in this matter .
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Thanks for all your help
but still have one issue :
i installed Cluster-Aware Updating but till now when i click on ( preview updates for this cluster
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Hi All,
I have installed a Hyper-v 2012 r2 Cluster and would like to utilise the cluster aware updating mechanism and also use SCCM 2012 SP1 to manage the deployment of updates. I have checked online and the following article seems to suggest that both can
live together.
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh831367.aspx
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I can't seem to find this information anywhere,
I have setup a 2 node hyper-v 2012 baremetal cluster and configured it with cluster aware updating role (CAU)
the environment is not internet facing and the updates need to come through a local WSUS server, a capability
mentioned
in many articles, however no guidelines on how to actually do it
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The GPO is just a methodology to configure a Windows Update Agent with the desired settings. Neither the GPO, nor the WUA, care whether it's on a cluster node or not. What's correct is to configure the machine the way you want it configured.
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