UTF-8 DB with legacy clients - Unicode transcode

I have a legacy application that can access single and double byte Oracle instances via SQL*net or Net8.
However, If the DB is configured for UTF-8, can SQL*Net/Net8 transcode the UTF-8 into a local NLS setting on the client and what are the imlcations of this transcode (e.g. missing accents etc.)?
Cheers
Paul

Your client code page determines what characters can be properly
converted from UTF-8. Your NLS_LANG needs to reflect this client
code page. So if your client supports 1252 then Western European
accented characters can be supported. But Asian characters would
not be displayed properly.

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    2014-02-03    08:33:39:258     920    153c    Agent    ** START **  Agent: Finding updates [CallerId = Windows Update Command Line]
    2014-02-03    08:33:39:258     920    153c    Agent    *********
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