V200: Possibly helpful hint regarding reloading firmware and reformatting data a

Hi
I have a GB MuVo V200 (firmware .0.03e) and I decided to reload the firmware
from the NomadWorld web site to put plain old version .0.03 (no 'e' at the end)
I eventually got this to work, but not at first. Here's an account of what happened.
However, first I tried to install the firmware .0.03 that I got from the Creative.com
website. See http://www.europe.creative.com/support/downloads/
I got the version for WinXP as I wanted to do this from my PC at work.
I tried to do it and it seemed to go OK. note I also chose to REFORMAT DATA AREA at the
time of reflashing my firmware. Anyway, I then transferred an MP3 to my MuVo and
tried to use it. However, the MuVo said No Music when I poserd it up. I then checked
the Muvo on my PC and on the removable dri've the mp3 file had been removed from the muvo
by the Muvo itself it seems! However, it did keep the folder, namely U2.
For the technical among you, note that the the REFORMAT DATA AREA did correctly
produce a FAT6 partition table on the MuVo starting at sector 45 (It seems that
the MuVo RESERVES the first 44 sectors, about 0.03MB) of the GB disk dri've for its
own use. I think in this reserved area there are some important files and the all
important Root folder! For some reason this Root folder was not getting put on there
I believe.
Anyway, I eventually fixed the problem in this way.
I went home and decided to load the firmware v.0.03 that I downloaded from NomadWorld
I did this using my Windows 2000 PC (on which I previously installed the CD
that came with my MuVo) and this worked. Yes, I also chose to reformat the
data area at the same time (i.e. I checked the box for this and then clicked START.)
The only differences between my home and work PC are:
. Work PC uses WinXP but home PC uses Win2000
2. I had previously installed the MuVo CD-ROM that cam with my MuVo on my
home PC, and then I installed and ran the firmware exe program from the
internet.
Point 2 is important I feel.
My GUESS is that there _may_ be some all important drivers or something loaded
from the original CD ROM which the firmware updater program needs in order to correctly
put files/data such as the Root folder into this RESERVED AREA of 0.03 MBytes
at the beginning of the GB flash dri've. The Microsoft Windows FAT reformatting
program will not and cannot touch this reserved area, since all Windows sees is
the actual FAT partition of the disk, which starts at sector 44. If can happily
reformat this disk partition to FAT or FAT32, but it cannot do anything more thatn this.
So, if you're having problems with reformatting or reflahsing the firmware, make sure
you have first installed the Installtion CD-ROM that came with you MuVo.
Hope the above is of some use to someone.

I do not own a V200, but a TX FM 52MB which is similar to the V200.
I never installed a driver from Creative using WindowsXP and the firmware-flash worked several times, with and without the "format data area"-option.
So you are right, the problem is not the operating system.
I used an old mp3-flashplayer before, that sometimes crashed because of electric discharges.
Sometimes after a crash the device used to delete files that I recorded with the microphone, as soon as I plugged it into the USB-port.
Everytime this happened I had to reformat it. Other files were not deleted, just all in the "Voice"-folder.
It was a "Jamba mystic U 00 28MB" that used a Sigmatel-chip. The creatice-players (at least the TX FM) use sigmatel as well, just the newer version.
So there are similarities between your experiences and mine. In both cases the filesystem got messed up and the player deleted files.
I did not have a crash or a disappearing file with my TX FM until now.
bye, elmulti

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