Value field- COPA

Hi All,
Do we ever assign a secondary cost element to a value field in COPA?
If so in which scenario do we do that.
Regards,
Reddy

Hi,
No, secodary cost element will not be defined in Value Fields. As the Secondary Cost Element will be defined in Cost Component Structure and such structure will be defined in Value fields in T Code KE4R
Regards,
Jigar

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Hi All,
Want to know the steps of adding new value fields in the existing operating concern in COPA?
What is the overall impact of addition of New Value fields in the running Operating Concern?
How do we test the addition of new value fields?
Is the addition of New Value fields to the running Operating Concern advisable?
Your support and advice is highly anticipated and appreciated.
Thanks & Regards
9819528669
Ohter details are as follows...
VALUE FIELDS : Defines the Structure of your Costs & Revenues. (Op. Concern 120 Value Fields)
1)     The client requires three new value fields to be created. Value fields for :
-     Other Airport Charges - International
-     Cargo Commission Cost
-     Personal Cost (Direct)
2)     What are the Steps involved in creation of new value fields? The steps are :
1)     Before creating new value field we need to check whether we can use already existing UNUSED value fields (There are 62 value fields created for the op concern 1000, in production the value fields TBUL1-L7 i.e. to be used (I assume) screen shot1 provided. My predecessor has used value field VV291, VV292, VV380 original description being TBUL3, TBUL4, and TBUL1. I believe he has changed the description in development client and created a transport request ref screen shot 2)
2)     You can create new value field thru T-Code KEA6 (4-5 characters beginning with VV) u2013 My predecessor has reused the value fields originally created he has not created new one I believe. please provide give your comments)
3)     Specify whether this field is for Currency or Quantity (currency defined in attribute of op concern and quantity defined by its own field u2013 unit of measure) u2013 My predecessor has configured the three value fields as Currency.
4)     Describe how the values in this field are aggregated over characteristics. (SUM, LAS, AVG) u2013 My predecessor has aggregated all the three value fields as SUM and they are in Active status.
5)     After the value field is created you have to add the value field (active status only) to the operating concern by Editing the Data Structure. (I guess this is done in the next step)
6)     Assign newly created Value fields to the Operating Concern u2013 T-Code KEA0 (In development client the value fields are assigned to the op concern 1000 refer screen shot 3. In the production client also those three value fields exist (does it mean they are assigned? your comments please.) As they have the original description TBUL3, TBUL4, and TBUL1 refer screen shot 4.
7)     After the Data Structure is defined you need to activate them. (creates plan vs actual database) u2013 Go to the data structure tab and Choose Activate. The status in dev client is Active with correct description but in the production client it is Active with the OLD description. After addition of the value field you need to regenerate the operating concern. T-Code KEA0 u2013 right?
8)     Condition Types are assigned to Value Fields? Donu2019t know u2013 T-Code KE45 (I think this is NOT required in our case u2013 Please give your comments)
9)     Define and Assign Valuation Strategy u2013 Cost assigned to Value fields u2013 T-Code KE4U (I think this is also NOT required in our case)
10)     Define PA Transfer Structure for Settlement u2013 T-Code KEI1 (This step is crucial u2013 I think I have to to include newly created value fields, but am not aware how to do it and what is the connectivity or what happens after this is done)
Note: My predecessor has created a Transport Request No# KEDK902167 for the value fields created by him.
3)     Whether my predecessor has performed all the steps for value field creation? How to test it and check that?
4)     If yes then, Do I need to perform additional configuration or can I proceed to transport it to Production?
5)     What is COPA Allocation Structure & PA Transfer Structure? Where and Why It is used?
6)     What are the different methods of cost and revenue allocations in SAP?
7)     I have checked the status of the value fields across clients, It is as followsu2026
     Value Field     Value Field For     Description     Development      Quality     Production
1     VV291     Other Airport Charges International     TBUL3     Exists      DNE     DNE
2     VV292     Cargo Commission Cost     TBUL4     Exists      DNE     DNE
3     VV380     Personal Cost u2013 Direct     TBUL1     Exists      DNE     DNE
#DNE : Does Not Exist (assumed since the description given to value field is not the same as in development client.)

HI sree,
ofter creation value field and saving that time reqwest number appeare copy the reqwest number and go through the se01 select that reqwest number select and transport click the truck symbole, and draft a mail to basis guyw.
Thank You!
Best Regards,
pradheep.

COPA Value Field +/- Error while releasing Billing Document for Return orde

Hi,
We have done Sale Order - PGI - Delivery and Billing for Quantity 10 and the customer returned 10 Qty due to some problem.
When i am doing the return process billing, I am getting the below error...
9000000892 000000 Check value field assignment for condition SGL1*
When condition "OR01" (application "V") was transferred to the value field "ERLOS" in operating concern "OR01" in
Profitability Analysis, the following became apparent:
o   The condition can take both positive and negative
    values
o   The flag "Transfer values with +/- signs" has not be
    set in Customizing for value field assignment.
Inconsistencies in the data could occur as a consequence.
Can any body help me on this issue
Is there any consequences if i activate +/- sign in KE4I for the above value field Please suggest me
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KC

Hi Kischow
You shud tick the +/- indicator only if
1. any One condition type repeats in the pricing procedure and can have +ve and -ve values
2. Two cond types in pricing procedures are assigned to same Value Field and the cond types can have +ve and -ve values
In COPA, all values are transferred as absolute values without + or - sign, with some exceptions ofcourse....
So, if you dont check + / - indicator in the cases mentioned above, say, +100 and -80 will be transferred as 100and 80 and the result will be 180 instead of 20
Regards
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Settle Production Variances to COPA- Cost elements and Value fields

Dear All,
I know this question has been discussed in the past, but I have one specific doubt regarding this topic.:
When assigning cost elements to variance categories in t-code KEI1, how do we figure out what combination of cost elements (in the top half of the screen) constitute Input Price Variance, Scrap variance etc (in the bottom half of the screen)? I know the net of the postings on those cost elements tells us what variances we are looking it, but how do we get the cost elements (group) for let's say, 'Input/Output Quanity Varinace or 'Lot size Variance' ?
Or is this a futile exercise? May be I should just create three types of variances: Labor, Machine and Overhead. And I know what cost elements (net of the postings) would, in total, make up the $ variance in each of those categories. I can then use them in my report painter reports.
Please help clear the fog for me.
Ajay?
Thanks a lot,
Deepak

Hi Deepak,
Welcome to SDN!!
There are 2 ways of updating variances in COPA... I Prefer the 2nd option always...
1. Category wise variances (Input Prc, Usage var, etc) - Here, create a Cost ele group, where in you include all the Cost elements that can be posted to the Prod orders
For the sake of simplicity, you can include Cost elements 1 to 99999999 in the Cost element group...
2. Cost Comp Structure wise variances -
a. Create as many assignment lines in PA Trf Structure as in your Cost Comp Str...
Eg: If your Cost Comp Str in OKTZ has Raw Mat, Labor, Overhead - Create 3 Assignments in PA Trf Structure..
b. Assign the same cost elements in the SOURCE as in the Cost Comp Str
c. Choose the radio button "Costs/Revenues" in your assignment line, instead of " Variance on Production orders"
d. Assign each Assignment line to a separate Value Field
br, Ajay M

COPA - Split of Value from condition type into different value fields

Dear All,
Customer is having several free schemes to customer the same is set up by SD and Cost of free goods is attached to One Z condition type, this flows along with Main product as characteristic. So we have Main product cost in VPRS and Scheme cost in Z Condition and there is possibility of more than one scheme cost flowing in one Z condition for single billing document. Whereas customer request is to see the each scheme cost separately in COPA. Since Value from SD will be flowing through only one condition type , it will be difficult to me to Split this in COPA. We have given a thought of having more than one condition type from SD ( one Z condition for one scheme) but this resolve our issue at hand. If we look at long term whenever customer introduces new Scheme new condition type need to be created and related COPA changes etc, Which doesn't seem to be working out.
Request Experts help in this, thanks in advance for the help.

Hi Santosh
Having a Z cond type for each scheme is preferrable.... This would address the issue with Standard SAP itself...
Reason being, if you dont do that, then you will have to maintain a mapping somewhere in a Z Table where by system would come to know of the ratio between the schemes... This will be more cumbersome to develop and maintain... Still you wanna do that, here is the logic....
Maintain the schemes in a Z Table... Where each scheme will have a scheme ID - The ratio applicable to various schemes and also the relevant value fields of COPA to be updated for each scheme....
Now, add a Custom Field to the Sales Order and while creating the SO this field needs to be updated with the scheme ID(Relevant Exit to make it mandatory MV45AFZZ / ZB).... If Scheme ID is populated, your Billing should read the Split from Z Table using Exit RV60AFZZ and Update COPA using Exit COPA0002
br, Ajay M

COPA Re-alignment fro new value field

Hi,
I would like to know if the COPA realignment would popolate the values for a new value field for the past transactions.
Regards
Venkata Devaraj

Hi Jayram,
Thanks for the response.
Yes I want to either change the mapping for a existing quantity value fields or add another value fields for quantity. I am exploring this 2 options.
In both cases I want to populate the data for the history records. i.e for the transactions that have been posted till this change.
Is this possible in COPA.
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COPA new value field transport

Hi
Is there any way to trnsport only the single value field in COPA to other instance?
Regards
HK

Hi,
If Value field is assigned to Data structure then you need to regenerate operating concern in KEAO. you cannot transport single value fields in COPA. All value fields which are assigned to Data structure are picked during transport.
Regards,
Sreekanth

Transporting New Value Fields in COPA

Hi All,
I have created new value fields in COPA and regenerated the Op Concern in Dev. I need help to transport them to Quality and then to Production.
Basically I need help on the Objects I need to select and pre-cautions I need to take.
Appreciate your help on this.
Thanks.
Sree

HI sree,
ofter creation value field and saving that time reqwest number appeare copy the reqwest number and go through the se01 select that reqwest number select and transport click the truck symbole, and draft a mail to basis guyw.
Thank You!
Best Regards,
pradheep.

User defined field in SD and its link to Value field in COPA (??)

Dear All,
We have created one "Z" field i.e. user defined field and its in VBRP Table. This is a quantity field. to update the values in this field we have used an exit in sales and distribution module. Now, by defining this exit values are correctly populated in VPRP table on line item basis.
Requirement here is we need to get this field in COPA, for same i have carried out the quantity field assignment to value field (KE4M).
Even after this configuration profitability segment is not updated.
Regards,
Sayujya
Edited by: sayu on Mar 15, 2010 10:13 AM

In the past I did something similar and had to use function module EXIT_SAPLKEAB_001 in enhancement COPA0002 to populate the field. To use this exit you'll first need to add a user exit id to your valuation strategy (transaction KE4U). The help on the function module is pretty good, but if you run into a problem let me know.
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Assign direct material cost to value field in copa while issue to Prod orde

Dear All,
My requirement is like this:
There are some 16 material groups from A to P each containing some materials(finished goods).
I want to allocate overhead to different material groups(Charecteristic in copa) in COPA using the periodic assesment cycles. I am able to allocate overhead(admin & sales cost) to different value fields in copa from different cost centers.
I want to analyse the product cost and also the profitability of each material group in COPA using Report painter. Iam able to pull all the costs which i assign to value fields using assessment. But, i am NOT able to get the direct material cost which is issued to production orders using BOM.
My question is whether we can assign the direct material cost to any user defined value field(material cost value field) while the material is being issued to production orders. Is there any automated way where we can directly assign the direct material cost to value field in copa while issuing the material to Production orders.
Pls explain me whether we can do it. if yes how?
Thank you very much in advance.
Regards,
Vishnu
VST-IT.

PA is a Profitability analysis tool. That means it gets updated when a sale is made, not before. (Except for settlements and assessment of overheads.)
Goods issues for production gets updated in CO-PC, and needs to be analysed there. If you don't, you loose all the inbuilt tools for variance analysis, cost estimate comparisons, Wip Calculation etc. To the best of my knowledge, a Profitability Segment cannot be used as a cost object in Production Planning, because amongst others, you need to be able to capitalise the produced materials to stock at the end of the production run, or to WIP at the end of the Financial period,which is not possible with PS.
Similarly, overheads are recorded in CCA and needs to be analysed there.
If one goes against these big groupings in SAP, you always run into problems.

How to create Formula based value field in COPA

Hi,
I want to know how to create formula based value field in COPA
My Requirement is i want to collect some value in formula based value field and want to use in copa allocation cycle as a tracing
factor.
anybody give some light on the same topic or requirement ?
Thanks
Nilesh R

The key figure you are creating in KE2K is not a value field, i.e. you can't post to it and you can't use it in a report. It is a caluculated value that can be used only in assessment and top-down-distribution.
In Ke2K, enter a name for your key figure, then click on the the white sheet button to create it. Now the formular area is open for input. Input your formular (e.g. VV001 + VV002 - VV003 .... where VVXXX are the technical names of value fields).
Now click the "check formuar"-button. Then save.
Before you can use the key figure in assessment, execute TC KEUG.
Now the key figure is available as any value field in the tracing factor selection of your assessment cycle.
I hope this made it clearer.
Regards
Nikolas

Origin Group as Value field in COPA - Is that Possible

Hello Gurus,
The business requirement is to see all the Origin Groups as Value fields in COPA - Is that Possible? If Yes, Please suggest me the steps to follow.
Thanks a lot for your time.
Regards,
PM

Hi Praveen
Origin group cant be a Value Field.. It can be a Characteristic...
Try with these 2 options
1. KEA5 - Click on Create/Change a new Char and Try to create it with reference from table MBEW... If this is allowed, you will be able to plug in the Field Origin group in yur COPA data structure... regenerate your op concern after this
2. If (1) is not allowed, then create a WW char and write a derivation rule in KEDR with ref to Table LOOKUP and use table MBEW
Regards
Ajay M

Deleteing Characteristic/Value field in COPA

Hi
How to delete a characteristic or valuefield from existing operating concern.?
Thanks,
Santosh

Hi Santoshreddy,
As far as my experiences is concerned, once a value fields and/or characteristics has been created it cannot be deleted if the characteristic has been used in the operating concern. Therefore this means no postings had already triggered the COPA using such characteristic. Instead of deleting a characteristic, you can change the config through KEQ3 wherein you would limit its use or make no use of it at all. Pick the radiobutton that you desire.
For more details regarding COPA details please refer at this link.. http://help.sap.com/saphelp_46c/helpdata/en/c6/f22c7dd435d1118b3f0060b03ca329/frameset.htm
Regards,
JeCCas_DJ

Only on value field in COPA gets values from SD

Hi,
I created two value fields for COPA. I assigned one of them to the condition VPRS (a cost) which works properly. The other condition, assigned, VKP0 doesnt appear in the COPA-document. We are using record type F.
But when I ran an flow analysis I can see that the value from VKP0 has flown to COPA in record type A?
I will assign point directly to a working solution.
Best regards
Carl-Johan

HI,
Billing document value flow is as per KE4I mapping to value fields.
There are some value flow analysis tools under CO-PA to check your settings with respect to value flows. Use transaction KE4ST (Simulate billing document transfer -> Value flow (<Ctrl +F7>) to check where things went wrong.
Hope this helps.

Recalculation of Value field in COPA

Hi,
We have a value field in COPA which derives its value from the UoM conversion maintained in Material Master,
we have now realized that incorrect conversion factors were maintianed in some material master records due to which incorrect values are being displayed in COPA reports.
We have corrected the Material Master records, but how can we update the existing COPA values ?
Regards
Sachin Bhutani

Hi ,
You cannot revalue value fields in COPA. You can however derive the characteristics derivation using Realignment functionality. In order to overcome your problem , you may have to resort to differential postings generation through KE21N.
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